Am I eligible???
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Dear Gurus, Its been 5 or more years I have been programming in c, c++ and some other products programming language. My job isnt ful fledged programming. But I want to become a hard core coder . I consider that I have good logic. I have been practising and self training MFC for over a year. With the help of some web sites , books I am able to use MFC quiet well. Many types of complex situations I can handle . But see, I have only 2-3 mfc small projects in my company but remaining work is all C, C++ and other APIs. I love MFC and with hard work I have got to know secrets of MFC which were learnt by myself only without any help from tuition classes or courses. I have created 4-5 projects by myself only which used many complex things. I have wrote one complex cad application, one Application for a resource management for a hospital, one application which calculates graphs according to entered data (stock, equity), one for employee record maintenance, one for data convertor.. text to excel. I dont want to praise my self . whatever I know may be not enough according to you. I just want your kind comments. Now I want to get a job of MFC programmer which pays good salary and experience. I want to go for a job which demands 3 years of experience. I am sure I can become professional MFC programmer within a very little time. I can put some experience on my resume. What do you guess. should I begin as a fresher/beginenr mfc programmer or should I go for a job which needs some mfc experience. sincerly, mark-us -- modified at 1:41 Saturday 6th May, 2006
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Dear Gurus, Its been 5 or more years I have been programming in c, c++ and some other products programming language. My job isnt ful fledged programming. But I want to become a hard core coder . I consider that I have good logic. I have been practising and self training MFC for over a year. With the help of some web sites , books I am able to use MFC quiet well. Many types of complex situations I can handle . But see, I have only 2-3 mfc small projects in my company but remaining work is all C, C++ and other APIs. I love MFC and with hard work I have got to know secrets of MFC which were learnt by myself only without any help from tuition classes or courses. I have created 4-5 projects by myself only which used many complex things. I have wrote one complex cad application, one Application for a resource management for a hospital, one application which calculates graphs according to entered data (stock, equity), one for employee record maintenance, one for data convertor.. text to excel. I dont want to praise my self . whatever I know may be not enough according to you. I just want your kind comments. Now I want to get a job of MFC programmer which pays good salary and experience. I want to go for a job which demands 3 years of experience. I am sure I can become professional MFC programmer within a very little time. I can put some experience on my resume. What do you guess. should I begin as a fresher/beginenr mfc programmer or should I go for a job which needs some mfc experience. sincerly, mark-us -- modified at 1:41 Saturday 6th May, 2006
And what's your point? :confused: OK! You are seeking for a job which provides hard coding fulfilling the whole work hours of a day. Now I get a little clear...
mark-us wrote:
tution classes
BTW, the spelling is "tuition".
Maxwell Chen
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Dear Gurus, Its been 5 or more years I have been programming in c, c++ and some other products programming language. My job isnt ful fledged programming. But I want to become a hard core coder . I consider that I have good logic. I have been practising and self training MFC for over a year. With the help of some web sites , books I am able to use MFC quiet well. Many types of complex situations I can handle . But see, I have only 2-3 mfc small projects in my company but remaining work is all C, C++ and other APIs. I love MFC and with hard work I have got to know secrets of MFC which were learnt by myself only without any help from tuition classes or courses. I have created 4-5 projects by myself only which used many complex things. I have wrote one complex cad application, one Application for a resource management for a hospital, one application which calculates graphs according to entered data (stock, equity), one for employee record maintenance, one for data convertor.. text to excel. I dont want to praise my self . whatever I know may be not enough according to you. I just want your kind comments. Now I want to get a job of MFC programmer which pays good salary and experience. I want to go for a job which demands 3 years of experience. I am sure I can become professional MFC programmer within a very little time. I can put some experience on my resume. What do you guess. should I begin as a fresher/beginenr mfc programmer or should I go for a job which needs some mfc experience. sincerly, mark-us -- modified at 1:41 Saturday 6th May, 2006
Its a bit hard to answer you based on what you've put here - and I guess you cant post examples of your work here as articles becuase the company you work for likely will take a dim view of it ... I would 1) read code-frog's (Rex's) article "what is the minimum", above this in the lounge forum 2) amend your post to describe what your '2-3 mfc small projects' solve/do, and what other techical issues youve solved with your c, c++ and other API's experience. Then people will have a better idea - just saying you have x projects may not amount to much, unless you can demonstrate they do other things than display 'hello world !' sorry, not trying to be brutal, but you need to demonstrate/sell yourself in terms of what technical issues/problems you can/have solved ... 'g'
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Its a bit hard to answer you based on what you've put here - and I guess you cant post examples of your work here as articles becuase the company you work for likely will take a dim view of it ... I would 1) read code-frog's (Rex's) article "what is the minimum", above this in the lounge forum 2) amend your post to describe what your '2-3 mfc small projects' solve/do, and what other techical issues youve solved with your c, c++ and other API's experience. Then people will have a better idea - just saying you have x projects may not amount to much, unless you can demonstrate they do other things than display 'hello world !' sorry, not trying to be brutal, but you need to demonstrate/sell yourself in terms of what technical issues/problems you can/have solved ... 'g'
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well, you've certainly done some interesting things. I would go for (whatever job you've got in mind), quoting as you have done here, the things you've done and learnt .. if they dont think you are capable of such a position you may be able to persuade them to take you on as a junior 'g'
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Dear Gurus, Its been 5 or more years I have been programming in c, c++ and some other products programming language. My job isnt ful fledged programming. But I want to become a hard core coder . I consider that I have good logic. I have been practising and self training MFC for over a year. With the help of some web sites , books I am able to use MFC quiet well. Many types of complex situations I can handle . But see, I have only 2-3 mfc small projects in my company but remaining work is all C, C++ and other APIs. I love MFC and with hard work I have got to know secrets of MFC which were learnt by myself only without any help from tuition classes or courses. I have created 4-5 projects by myself only which used many complex things. I have wrote one complex cad application, one Application for a resource management for a hospital, one application which calculates graphs according to entered data (stock, equity), one for employee record maintenance, one for data convertor.. text to excel. I dont want to praise my self . whatever I know may be not enough according to you. I just want your kind comments. Now I want to get a job of MFC programmer which pays good salary and experience. I want to go for a job which demands 3 years of experience. I am sure I can become professional MFC programmer within a very little time. I can put some experience on my resume. What do you guess. should I begin as a fresher/beginenr mfc programmer or should I go for a job which needs some mfc experience. sincerly, mark-us -- modified at 1:41 Saturday 6th May, 2006
mark-us wrote:
I just want your kind comments.
I guess that leaves me out! :) Do some analysis. What do you have to lose. If you don't interview you wont get the job. Seems like you only lose if you don't try. Unless you are worried about giving up your current position and then not making it in the new position?
"What classes are you using ? You shouldn't call stuff if you have no idea what it does" Christian Graus in the C# forum led mike
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Dear Gurus, Its been 5 or more years I have been programming in c, c++ and some other products programming language. My job isnt ful fledged programming. But I want to become a hard core coder . I consider that I have good logic. I have been practising and self training MFC for over a year. With the help of some web sites , books I am able to use MFC quiet well. Many types of complex situations I can handle . But see, I have only 2-3 mfc small projects in my company but remaining work is all C, C++ and other APIs. I love MFC and with hard work I have got to know secrets of MFC which were learnt by myself only without any help from tuition classes or courses. I have created 4-5 projects by myself only which used many complex things. I have wrote one complex cad application, one Application for a resource management for a hospital, one application which calculates graphs according to entered data (stock, equity), one for employee record maintenance, one for data convertor.. text to excel. I dont want to praise my self . whatever I know may be not enough according to you. I just want your kind comments. Now I want to get a job of MFC programmer which pays good salary and experience. I want to go for a job which demands 3 years of experience. I am sure I can become professional MFC programmer within a very little time. I can put some experience on my resume. What do you guess. should I begin as a fresher/beginenr mfc programmer or should I go for a job which needs some mfc experience. sincerly, mark-us -- modified at 1:41 Saturday 6th May, 2006
Bad timing, dude... Bummer. From what I can see, Microsoft intends to kill MFC for all time. Tom and Nish wrote a nice book about extending .Net into the old MFC paradigm, and I'd recommend that you read it. But for future value I'd suggest that you learn the latest stuff and get some practice in. If you do have MFC experience, bang on it loudly, but make it clear that you are also ready and willing to learn the buzzword of the week by building upon the knowledge you already possess. Programming is a mindset, not a language syntax. If you can program in ALGOL, you can program in any language. A language is just a tool for implementing your thoughts. The thoughts are what is important; the language is of little importance. Good luck!:-D "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9
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Bad timing, dude... Bummer. From what I can see, Microsoft intends to kill MFC for all time. Tom and Nish wrote a nice book about extending .Net into the old MFC paradigm, and I'd recommend that you read it. But for future value I'd suggest that you learn the latest stuff and get some practice in. If you do have MFC experience, bang on it loudly, but make it clear that you are also ready and willing to learn the buzzword of the week by building upon the knowledge you already possess. Programming is a mindset, not a language syntax. If you can program in ALGOL, you can program in any language. A language is just a tool for implementing your thoughts. The thoughts are what is important; the language is of little importance. Good luck!:-D "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9
:~ 1. but dont you think having the knowledge of MFC , com atl will prove more useful to me if I learn dot net tecnologies and I would be better than other programmers who started with the dot net directly.??? 2. Is it better to learn CLI directly .. I think microsoft is more interested in CLI than c# .. What do you think My company doesnt have MFC projects .I am having best impression in my company and our cmd awarded me with the award of outstanding employee. I will try to spread my wings soon. :) mark-us -- modified at 8:14 Saturday 6th May, 2006
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Bad timing, dude... Bummer. From what I can see, Microsoft intends to kill MFC for all time. Tom and Nish wrote a nice book about extending .Net into the old MFC paradigm, and I'd recommend that you read it. But for future value I'd suggest that you learn the latest stuff and get some practice in. If you do have MFC experience, bang on it loudly, but make it clear that you are also ready and willing to learn the buzzword of the week by building upon the knowledge you already possess. Programming is a mindset, not a language syntax. If you can program in ALGOL, you can program in any language. A language is just a tool for implementing your thoughts. The thoughts are what is important; the language is of little importance. Good luck!:-D "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9
Roger Wright wrote: The thoughts are what is important; the language is of little importance. Very true!!! :rolleyes:
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:~ 1. but dont you think having the knowledge of MFC , com atl will prove more useful to me if I learn dot net tecnologies and I would be better than other programmers who started with the dot net directly.??? 2. Is it better to learn CLI directly .. I think microsoft is more interested in CLI than c# .. What do you think My company doesnt have MFC projects .I am having best impression in my company and our cmd awarded me with the award of outstanding employee. I will try to spread my wings soon. :) mark-us -- modified at 8:14 Saturday 6th May, 2006
mark-us wrote:
I would be better than other programmers who started with the dot net directly.???
Yes, I think that's true. Learning fundamentals before the shortcuts is a good habit to get into. But don't lock yourself into them - branch out early. The .Net system provides you with lots of libraries, or assemblies, or whatever they're calling them these days, to make you more productive. These give a programmer far more capability than the older technologies, and potentially make you far more productive with less time spent coding. It's great that you've mastered the hard way, but now you should adopt and master the productive way.
mark-us wrote:
award of outstanding employee.
Congratulations!:-D "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9