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Oh heck! Not at all. It's CP takes time to get to know all 2 million of us I mean at any given time there could be 5,000 to 20,000 of us here...:-D
The enemy's gate is down.:cool:
Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used CPhog. The act of using CPhog alone doesn't make Firefox cool. It opens your eyes to the possibilities and then you start looking for other things like CPhog and your eyes are suddenly open to all sorts of useful things all through Firefox. - (Self Quote)
>> I'm just feeling like a worm in your mind. Oh it's the diffrence between your culture and mine. I'm not sure how to express it correctly in English. In my culture, when we say:
Person A is just like a roundworm in Person B's mind ("stomach" in Chinese word actually).it implies:The Person A can correctly surmise what Person B thinks.How do you English speakers express this concept? :-D
Maxwell Chen
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Okay, someone who is a member here has emailed me asking what I think the minimum level of experience is that they should have before they go job hunting again. I've been stumped by this question for over a week now. I have finally realized that the answer to this question is so subjective that one answer won't be enough. Everyone's answer is going to be based up on their background, education, experience and philosophy on hiring. So I'm going to open this thread with my own answer. My answer will not be wrong, it will not be right and it's not open for discussion. If your answer is different from mine that's what I want so just post it. You don't have to change my opinion you just need to provide feedback for the person who will read it and it will thereby enrich their own information base and it may help them to land their next job of choice. Here goes... {ANSWER: From my perspective.} The minimum experience you should have before going to interview for your next programming job goes like this. There is no minimum it seems to me like every job I've ever interviewed for I didn't have all the experience they wanted (but I still got the job). Every person I've ever interviewed and recommended for hire didn't have all the experience to fill the position but they still got hired. So if I were to take these statements and expand them into an answer I'd say something like this. If you have all the experience a job requires you may not get it. You may not get it for several factors. You might be able to justify asking more money than the company intended to pay. The company may have wanted someone teachable that they could shape and mould. Whatever the reason having the round peg for a round hole requirements is very difficult to accomplish and it may not get you the job. In your situation you simply won't be that round peg anyway so let's move past that and talk about what attributes might in fact get you the next job you go looking for in software development. 1. The ability to answer technical questions is important. Having the accurate answer not nearly so. Even if you don't have the right answer explain you don't. Then say but if I were to approach that problem right now here's how I would go about solving it. Go into the steps you would take in discovering an answer. Why do I say this? Writing software is easy for problems you understand and have an answer for. You need a function that sums 5 parameters that's easy you can code that in no time. You need to write a virtual, memory resident database that refreshe
...wordcount? :~ 1000!!!!! (I copyed it into word and ran word count, minus signitures its 1092 words) :eek: William Penington
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Okay, someone who is a member here has emailed me asking what I think the minimum level of experience is that they should have before they go job hunting again. I've been stumped by this question for over a week now. I have finally realized that the answer to this question is so subjective that one answer won't be enough. Everyone's answer is going to be based up on their background, education, experience and philosophy on hiring. So I'm going to open this thread with my own answer. My answer will not be wrong, it will not be right and it's not open for discussion. If your answer is different from mine that's what I want so just post it. You don't have to change my opinion you just need to provide feedback for the person who will read it and it will thereby enrich their own information base and it may help them to land their next job of choice. Here goes... {ANSWER: From my perspective.} The minimum experience you should have before going to interview for your next programming job goes like this. There is no minimum it seems to me like every job I've ever interviewed for I didn't have all the experience they wanted (but I still got the job). Every person I've ever interviewed and recommended for hire didn't have all the experience to fill the position but they still got hired. So if I were to take these statements and expand them into an answer I'd say something like this. If you have all the experience a job requires you may not get it. You may not get it for several factors. You might be able to justify asking more money than the company intended to pay. The company may have wanted someone teachable that they could shape and mould. Whatever the reason having the round peg for a round hole requirements is very difficult to accomplish and it may not get you the job. In your situation you simply won't be that round peg anyway so let's move past that and talk about what attributes might in fact get you the next job you go looking for in software development. 1. The ability to answer technical questions is important. Having the accurate answer not nearly so. Even if you don't have the right answer explain you don't. Then say but if I were to approach that problem right now here's how I would go about solving it. Go into the steps you would take in discovering an answer. Why do I say this? Writing software is easy for problems you understand and have an answer for. You need a function that sums 5 parameters that's easy you can code that in no time. You need to write a virtual, memory resident database that refreshe
Where do you get time to write such lengthy posts? ;P What's your typing Speed? Talking about typing speed, I think that would make a good post... What's your typing speed...... :laugh::laugh::laugh: --- With best regards, A Manchester United Fan The Genius of a true fool is that he can mess up a foolproof plan!
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...wordcount? :~ 1000!!!!! (I copyed it into word and ran word count, minus signitures its 1092 words) :eek: William Penington
I think he and Marc Clifton runs a conspiracy :rolleyes:
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Okay, someone who is a member here has emailed me asking what I think the minimum level of experience is that they should have before they go job hunting again. I've been stumped by this question for over a week now. I have finally realized that the answer to this question is so subjective that one answer won't be enough. Everyone's answer is going to be based up on their background, education, experience and philosophy on hiring. So I'm going to open this thread with my own answer. My answer will not be wrong, it will not be right and it's not open for discussion. If your answer is different from mine that's what I want so just post it. You don't have to change my opinion you just need to provide feedback for the person who will read it and it will thereby enrich their own information base and it may help them to land their next job of choice. Here goes... {ANSWER: From my perspective.} The minimum experience you should have before going to interview for your next programming job goes like this. There is no minimum it seems to me like every job I've ever interviewed for I didn't have all the experience they wanted (but I still got the job). Every person I've ever interviewed and recommended for hire didn't have all the experience to fill the position but they still got hired. So if I were to take these statements and expand them into an answer I'd say something like this. If you have all the experience a job requires you may not get it. You may not get it for several factors. You might be able to justify asking more money than the company intended to pay. The company may have wanted someone teachable that they could shape and mould. Whatever the reason having the round peg for a round hole requirements is very difficult to accomplish and it may not get you the job. In your situation you simply won't be that round peg anyway so let's move past that and talk about what attributes might in fact get you the next job you go looking for in software development. 1. The ability to answer technical questions is important. Having the accurate answer not nearly so. Even if you don't have the right answer explain you don't. Then say but if I were to approach that problem right now here's how I would go about solving it. Go into the steps you would take in discovering an answer. Why do I say this? Writing software is easy for problems you understand and have an answer for. You need a function that sums 5 parameters that's easy you can code that in no time. You need to write a virtual, memory resident database that refreshe
Hi Codefrog, The jobs I see on the Internet are almost all from recruiting agencies, and for those who started programming as a hobby, it will be hard to get an invitation for an interview. This because job agencies want some proof of your skills (education or job experience). I think the best advice to those who want a job as a programmer is to say that they should go back to school and get the proper education. When you have the right education or certification things will be much easier i think, even without much experience. :) With friendly greetings, Eric Goedhart Skype: eric-goedhart Deep in the fundamental heart of mind and Universe there is a reason. -Slartibartfast -- modified at 11:43 Saturday 6th May, 2006
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Where do you get time to write such lengthy posts? ;P What's your typing Speed? Talking about typing speed, I think that would make a good post... What's your typing speed...... :laugh::laugh::laugh: --- With best regards, A Manchester United Fan The Genius of a true fool is that he can mess up a foolproof plan!
Over 100 WPM.:-O
The enemy's gate is down.:cool:
Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used CPhog. The act of using CPhog alone doesn't make Firefox cool. It opens your eyes to the possibilities and then you start looking for other things like CPhog and your eyes are suddenly open to all sorts of useful things all through Firefox. - (Self Quote)
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>> I'm just feeling like a worm in your mind. Oh it's the diffrence between your culture and mine. I'm not sure how to express it correctly in English. In my culture, when we say:
Person A is just like a roundworm in Person B's mind ("stomach" in Chinese word actually).it implies:The Person A can correctly surmise what Person B thinks.How do you English speakers express this concept? :-D
Maxwell Chen
We call it 'getting into someone's head'. The image is similar.
Software Zen:
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We call it 'getting into someone's head'. The image is similar.
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WOW! I hate lengthy posts. I'll read it tomorrow... ;P
Maxwell Chen
Maxwell Chen wrote:
WOW! I hate lengthy posts. I'll read it tomorrow...
WOW! will it be shorter then? ;P _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Over 100 WPM.:-O
The enemy's gate is down.:cool:
Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used CPhog. The act of using CPhog alone doesn't make Firefox cool. It opens your eyes to the possibilities and then you start looking for other things like CPhog and your eyes are suddenly open to all sorts of useful things all through Firefox. - (Self Quote)
code-frog wrote:
Over 100 WPM.
Don't believe him folks!! he two-finger typed it over the last month... ;P _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)