what do you think CP web site
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You losers.. Ok the functionality is good of CP. but what about feel. I think most of you have become very raw. Ask any artstic guy about the site design , look, colors, structure. he would not be happy. Why Microsoft opted for colorful windows xp. they could have kept the same look as windows 2000, boring. God, if world is ruled by guys like you.. it will become a place like mars, raw, dull, boring. (I also guess your boring outlook is the reason that you are a boring material for your wives and girlfriends :laugh::laugh::laugh:) (IT has been made boring by people like you. books and articals written in a very boring manner.) -- modified at 6:25 Saturday 6th May, 2006
ppatel567 wrote:
I think most of you have become very raw.
C'mon guys! Back onto the BBQ!
Voltaire (1694-1778) wrote:
I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it.
Jörgen Sigvardsson , on the subject of Wikipedia, wrote:
Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least you have the chance to correct the wiki.
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just check out some sites www.2advanced.com www.thevoid.co.uk www.nike.com www.secondstory.com www.thefwa.com www.cabedge.com www.realityslip.com
You've not even been here long enough to learn about clicketies! And you want to change everything! GET A GRIP! http://www.2advanced.com[^] Sorry, I had to wait more than 10 seconds for any content one the page loaded! That sucks! Also, it stopped the tabs working in FireFox. Nobody, but nobody, fucks with my browser! I have it set to the way I like working. http://www.thevoid.co.uk[^] I've waited over 30 seconds and still no contect. Double Sucks! http://www.nike.com[^] Nike is for a consumer market not for developers. I don't want to have to deal with all those whizzy graphics. I just want to get my job done! It even asked me what language TWICE! Couldn't it remember the first time. That sucks http://www.secondstory.com/[^] This is an online brochure. In fact, all these are online brochures. They don't have the same purpose as Code Project. http://www.thefwa.com/[^] A set of awards for unusable whizzy websites! Get a grip! http://www.cabedge.com/[^] Yet another low interactivite design site brochure. Yawn! http://www.realityslip.com/[^] How many online brochures are you going to give us? And why do so many have music! I don't want their music. I want MY music. I wouldn't use Code Project if it had music!
Voltaire (1694-1778) wrote:
I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it.
Jörgen Sigvardsson , on the subject of Wikipedia, wrote:
Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least you have the chance to correct the wiki.
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just check out some sites www.2advanced.com www.thevoid.co.uk www.nike.com www.secondstory.com www.thefwa.com www.cabedge.com www.realityslip.com
Having a look at these sites, I think I see where you are at. You have read Alan Cooper's "The Inmates are Running the Asylum" and you only half understood it. So, let me put this in terms on Alan Cooper's "personas": Code Project's user base has three primary personas (that I can see - Chris, et al. would be better placed to describe them, but I'll give it a go) First there is Kevin. Kevin is at university studying for a degree in computer science. He struggles with some of his course work and frequently asks for help in the programming forums. He quickly learned not to post in the Lounge and he's also learned that direct homework questions are met by a barrage of abuse. He actually understands he will learn if he tries to apply himself first, although he still has some way to go before he is able to frame his questions well. He hasn't written any articles, but does make extensive use of them. Then there is Ernie. Ernie is a software developer in his mid-20s who graduated from university about 3 years ago. He knows a fair bit about some technologies but still struggles with the vast area that is software development. He can help out by answering some questions on forums, but spends more time asking them. He has written an article but his lack of knowledge lead to a slighly below average score but he is striving to do better next time. He also likes to hang out in the social areas of the site where he can rant about the linux fanboys on slashdot. Earnie doesn't like the clutter of Slashdot, and is not overly impressed with large amounts of flash animation unless it is a cartoon about the decapitation of badgers, snakes and mushrooms. Finally there is Norm. He's now in his mid-30s and has been developing software professionally for over 15 years. He rarely needs to ask any questions in the programming forums and spends most of his time answering them. He needs an occasional sounding board for rants about his work and the Lounge and Soapbox are perfect for that. He's written at least a half dozen article most with great scores. He is more pragmatic about technologies than Earnie, but still doesn't like the type of zealotry that can be found on Slashdot. When ever he visits a website he wants to find the information he is looking for quickly and without fuss. Lots of flash animation slowing the access to that information is a big turn off.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers co
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just check out some sites www.2advanced.com www.thevoid.co.uk www.nike.com www.secondstory.com www.thefwa.com www.cabedge.com www.realityslip.com
ppatel567 wrote:
just check out some sites www.2advanced.com www.thevoid.co.uk www.nike.com www.secondstory.com www.thefwa.com www.cabedge.com www.realityslip.com
You don't have a clue. What are some of the most successful sites on the Internet? Near the top of the list must be Amazon, Google and EBay. None of these feature graphics pyrotechnics and sound. All that stuff is fine for people who visit once and want to be entertained. It is a huge pain in the neck and a waste of time for people who go to a site regularly and want to access information quickly and with a minimum of fuss. John Carson "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine
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Hi, SInce codeproject is the no 1 web site for most of the IT people. what do you think of the design of the webpage. Though its more homely and friendly, Sometimes I see many child like images. If any alien comes to earth and he browse for the no 1 IT site on this earth, he wont feel it that much professional or modern. Its said that website should make the best impression within 3 seconds. (dont ask where I read that ;)) I feel CP administrators should use all the knowledge in codeproject to build a very ultra modern website. I dont remember the name but I happen to visit a website which was so fast and modern and game like settings in it. it was damn good wish I could suggest the name. make it a opensource project. allocate some time for it. ppatel
you so crazy... Pictures of the menu available at the drive-thru
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You losers.. Ok the functionality is good of CP. but what about feel. I think most of you have become very raw. Ask any artstic guy about the site design , look, colors, structure. he would not be happy. Why Microsoft opted for colorful windows xp. they could have kept the same look as windows 2000, boring. God, if world is ruled by guys like you.. it will become a place like mars, raw, dull, boring. (I also guess your boring outlook is the reason that you are a boring material for your wives and girlfriends :laugh::laugh::laugh:) (IT has been made boring by people like you. books and articals written in a very boring manner.) -- modified at 6:25 Saturday 6th May, 2006
yup.. you be nutz... Pictures of the menu available at the drive-thru
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just check out some sites www.2advanced.com www.thevoid.co.uk www.nike.com www.secondstory.com www.thefwa.com www.cabedge.com www.realityslip.com
hey, dillweed, don't you know how to do a proper link on CP? Or is that feature TOO ADVANCED for you? Pictures of the menu available at the drive-thru
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Having a look at these sites, I think I see where you are at. You have read Alan Cooper's "The Inmates are Running the Asylum" and you only half understood it. So, let me put this in terms on Alan Cooper's "personas": Code Project's user base has three primary personas (that I can see - Chris, et al. would be better placed to describe them, but I'll give it a go) First there is Kevin. Kevin is at university studying for a degree in computer science. He struggles with some of his course work and frequently asks for help in the programming forums. He quickly learned not to post in the Lounge and he's also learned that direct homework questions are met by a barrage of abuse. He actually understands he will learn if he tries to apply himself first, although he still has some way to go before he is able to frame his questions well. He hasn't written any articles, but does make extensive use of them. Then there is Ernie. Ernie is a software developer in his mid-20s who graduated from university about 3 years ago. He knows a fair bit about some technologies but still struggles with the vast area that is software development. He can help out by answering some questions on forums, but spends more time asking them. He has written an article but his lack of knowledge lead to a slighly below average score but he is striving to do better next time. He also likes to hang out in the social areas of the site where he can rant about the linux fanboys on slashdot. Earnie doesn't like the clutter of Slashdot, and is not overly impressed with large amounts of flash animation unless it is a cartoon about the decapitation of badgers, snakes and mushrooms. Finally there is Norm. He's now in his mid-30s and has been developing software professionally for over 15 years. He rarely needs to ask any questions in the programming forums and spends most of his time answering them. He needs an occasional sounding board for rants about his work and the Lounge and Soapbox are perfect for that. He's written at least a half dozen article most with great scores. He is more pragmatic about technologies than Earnie, but still doesn't like the type of zealotry that can be found on Slashdot. When ever he visits a website he wants to find the information he is looking for quickly and without fuss. Lots of flash animation slowing the access to that information is a big turn off.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers co
That's a good list though I think there is a 4th catagory. ;) Pictures of the menu available at the drive-thru
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Hi, SInce codeproject is the no 1 web site for most of the IT people. what do you think of the design of the webpage. Though its more homely and friendly, Sometimes I see many child like images. If any alien comes to earth and he browse for the no 1 IT site on this earth, he wont feel it that much professional or modern. Its said that website should make the best impression within 3 seconds. (dont ask where I read that ;)) I feel CP administrators should use all the knowledge in codeproject to build a very ultra modern website. I dont remember the name but I happen to visit a website which was so fast and modern and game like settings in it. it was damn good wish I could suggest the name. make it a opensource project. allocate some time for it. ppatel
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That's a good list though I think there is a 4th catagory. ;) Pictures of the menu available at the drive-thru
Toasty0 wrote:
That's a good list though I think there is a 4th catagory
You mean: Terry the drive by nutter. Terry doesn't care much about Code Project or any of the two million people that are users of the site. He arrives on the forums with a great gusto determined to shake things up. He suggests wild ideas to which the regulars are opposed. He brazenly insults those around him rather than learn the intracacies of the site or the social network that has built up around it. After a few days of abuse he disappears so that he can irritate some other unsuspecting group somewhere. [Addition] Terry is an edge case, and Alan Cooper's book recommends ignoring edge cases because they bring no business benefit and can actually be counter-productive. [/Addition]
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." --Charles Babbage (1791-1871) My: Website | Blog -- modified at 10:42 Saturday 6th May, 2006
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Hi, SInce codeproject is the no 1 web site for most of the IT people. what do you think of the design of the webpage. Though its more homely and friendly, Sometimes I see many child like images. If any alien comes to earth and he browse for the no 1 IT site on this earth, he wont feel it that much professional or modern. Its said that website should make the best impression within 3 seconds. (dont ask where I read that ;)) I feel CP administrators should use all the knowledge in codeproject to build a very ultra modern website. I dont remember the name but I happen to visit a website which was so fast and modern and game like settings in it. it was damn good wish I could suggest the name. make it a opensource project. allocate some time for it. ppatel
It aint no beauty contest.
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just check out some sites www.2advanced.com www.thevoid.co.uk www.nike.com www.secondstory.com www.thefwa.com www.cabedge.com www.realityslip.com
Completly useless sites. Utterly, and completly useless. Hard to navigate, and frankly, lousy design on many of them. Functionality is the number one priority. Sure, if you can make it look good too, then fine. You're just being artsy fartsy.
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Having a look at these sites, I think I see where you are at. You have read Alan Cooper's "The Inmates are Running the Asylum" and you only half understood it. So, let me put this in terms on Alan Cooper's "personas": Code Project's user base has three primary personas (that I can see - Chris, et al. would be better placed to describe them, but I'll give it a go) First there is Kevin. Kevin is at university studying for a degree in computer science. He struggles with some of his course work and frequently asks for help in the programming forums. He quickly learned not to post in the Lounge and he's also learned that direct homework questions are met by a barrage of abuse. He actually understands he will learn if he tries to apply himself first, although he still has some way to go before he is able to frame his questions well. He hasn't written any articles, but does make extensive use of them. Then there is Ernie. Ernie is a software developer in his mid-20s who graduated from university about 3 years ago. He knows a fair bit about some technologies but still struggles with the vast area that is software development. He can help out by answering some questions on forums, but spends more time asking them. He has written an article but his lack of knowledge lead to a slighly below average score but he is striving to do better next time. He also likes to hang out in the social areas of the site where he can rant about the linux fanboys on slashdot. Earnie doesn't like the clutter of Slashdot, and is not overly impressed with large amounts of flash animation unless it is a cartoon about the decapitation of badgers, snakes and mushrooms. Finally there is Norm. He's now in his mid-30s and has been developing software professionally for over 15 years. He rarely needs to ask any questions in the programming forums and spends most of his time answering them. He needs an occasional sounding board for rants about his work and the Lounge and Soapbox are perfect for that. He's written at least a half dozen article most with great scores. He is more pragmatic about technologies than Earnie, but still doesn't like the type of zealotry that can be found on Slashdot. When ever he visits a website he wants to find the information he is looking for quickly and without fuss. Lots of flash animation slowing the access to that information is a big turn off.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers co
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Toasty0 wrote:
That's a good list though I think there is a 4th catagory
You mean: Terry the drive by nutter. Terry doesn't care much about Code Project or any of the two million people that are users of the site. He arrives on the forums with a great gusto determined to shake things up. He suggests wild ideas to which the regulars are opposed. He brazenly insults those around him rather than learn the intracacies of the site or the social network that has built up around it. After a few days of abuse he disappears so that he can irritate some other unsuspecting group somewhere. [Addition] Terry is an edge case, and Alan Cooper's book recommends ignoring edge cases because they bring no business benefit and can actually be counter-productive. [/Addition]
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." --Charles Babbage (1791-1871) My: Website | Blog -- modified at 10:42 Saturday 6th May, 2006
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Hi, SInce codeproject is the no 1 web site for most of the IT people. what do you think of the design of the webpage. Though its more homely and friendly, Sometimes I see many child like images. If any alien comes to earth and he browse for the no 1 IT site on this earth, he wont feel it that much professional or modern. Its said that website should make the best impression within 3 seconds. (dont ask where I read that ;)) I feel CP administrators should use all the knowledge in codeproject to build a very ultra modern website. I dont remember the name but I happen to visit a website which was so fast and modern and game like settings in it. it was damn good wish I could suggest the name. make it a opensource project. allocate some time for it. ppatel
I disagree completely. Ultra modern translates into cold, unusable, unfriendly. What makes CodeProject unique is its friendly, informal design. I suspect that most of the nearly 3 million members who have discovered it before you would agree. "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9
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just check out some sites www.2advanced.com www.thevoid.co.uk www.nike.com www.secondstory.com www.thefwa.com www.cabedge.com www.realityslip.com
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Hi, SInce codeproject is the no 1 web site for most of the IT people. what do you think of the design of the webpage. Though its more homely and friendly, Sometimes I see many child like images. If any alien comes to earth and he browse for the no 1 IT site on this earth, he wont feel it that much professional or modern. Its said that website should make the best impression within 3 seconds. (dont ask where I read that ;)) I feel CP administrators should use all the knowledge in codeproject to build a very ultra modern website. I dont remember the name but I happen to visit a website which was so fast and modern and game like settings in it. it was damn good wish I could suggest the name. make it a opensource project. allocate some time for it. ppatel
This sounds familiar. Many years ago, there was a company that saw gold in the hills of developer sites. They bought out sites in various categories, and gave them a consistent, modern UI. One-stop shopping for all your coding needs, with a slick, professional interface. And the sites died. Oh, they still existed in a sense, but the soul was gone. The little idiosyncrasies that endeared each one to its respective members faded. It was almost as though the new administration put more weight on the rules and design of the site than on the articles and discussions that made the site useful. And this is what CP needs to avoid. There's nothing wrong with a slick, professional interface - but that's all it is. CP will live or die based on how well it serves the people who write articles, the people who answer questions in the forums, the people who show up each day to read new articles or ask new and interesting questions, or chat in The Lounge. It isn't enough for a website like this to make a brilliant first impression - most people who come here are searching for solutions to specific problems, and whether they find that solution here or elsewhere depends on the 30th, or 3000th impression this site makes on the people who come here again and again willing to provide solutions. Lose these good folk, and the best interface in the world won't make a difference.
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Dont butter CP. They wont hire you :laugh: I am totally CP fan. Recently I have joined. Everyone has their own vision of improvement. I want to see CP site in a very modern look. Would you like to see "mission impossible III" ni a very modern look or based in year 1800. ;) just dont bark on me now. just try to understand my point. this is just a suggesion.
ppatel567 wrote:
Recently I have joined.
Welcome aboard. Now lesson #1: don't waste your precious chances of being quiet. Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)
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Hi, SInce codeproject is the no 1 web site for most of the IT people. what do you think of the design of the webpage. Though its more homely and friendly, Sometimes I see many child like images. If any alien comes to earth and he browse for the no 1 IT site on this earth, he wont feel it that much professional or modern. Its said that website should make the best impression within 3 seconds. (dont ask where I read that ;)) I feel CP administrators should use all the knowledge in codeproject to build a very ultra modern website. I dont remember the name but I happen to visit a website which was so fast and modern and game like settings in it. it was damn good wish I could suggest the name. make it a opensource project. allocate some time for it. ppatel
Look at the number of visitors then think again about speed. Look at the number of :bob:ians and I think the popularity says a lot. The tigress is here :-D
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Hi, SInce codeproject is the no 1 web site for most of the IT people. what do you think of the design of the webpage. Though its more homely and friendly, Sometimes I see many child like images. If any alien comes to earth and he browse for the no 1 IT site on this earth, he wont feel it that much professional or modern. Its said that website should make the best impression within 3 seconds. (dont ask where I read that ;)) I feel CP administrators should use all the knowledge in codeproject to build a very ultra modern website. I dont remember the name but I happen to visit a website which was so fast and modern and game like settings in it. it was damn good wish I could suggest the name. make it a opensource project. allocate some time for it. ppatel
You seem to be confusing glitz with content. Not everything that glitters is gold. And XP's Fisher-Price Toy look frankly sux. I generally turn it off in favor of the nice clean classic look. None of the visuals in XP make it more useable or more efficient (probably the opposite). Few things are more a waste of time and bandwidth than pointless eye candy. We need to graduate from the ridiculous notion that greed is some kind of elixir for capitalism - it's the downfall of capitalism. Self-interest, maybe, but self-interest run amok does not serve anyone. The core value of conscious capitalism is enlightened self-interest. Patricia Aburdene
