Do you believe the existence of Aliens in other planets?
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I mean just look at the sky, how many stars are there! There gotta be some other civilizations exist out there. If they do exist, who created them? Did the GOD who created the Earth also created them? What kind of cars do they drive, do they also have computers and internet too? What do they look like, do they look like us? Are they smarter than us? Think about it, it's kind of interesting.
I do. It would be awfully arrogant to assume we are a special case in the universe.
Link2006 wrote:
Did the GOD who created the Earth also created them?
I don't believe a god created any of it. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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I mean just look at the sky, how many stars are there! There gotta be some other civilizations exist out there. If they do exist, who created them? Did the GOD who created the Earth also created them? What kind of cars do they drive, do they also have computers and internet too? What do they look like, do they look like us? Are they smarter than us? Think about it, it's kind of interesting.
I neither believe nor disbelieve. I don't see any reason why there couldn't be, but I haven't seen anything that suggests there is. I reserve judgement until I see more evidence :)
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
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I neither believe nor disbelieve. I don't see any reason why there couldn't be, but I haven't seen anything that suggests there is. I reserve judgement until I see more evidence :)
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
Eloquently put. :) It takes heavier elements (up to and beyond iron) to make complex life, which come from supernovae. It takes time for stars to burn out and for their supernovae to blow these heavier elements into interstellar space, and for enough of that matter to exist to form rocky planets, and for life to evolve on those planets, so humans are probably among the earliest advanced civilisations to evolve in the universe. Stephen Baxter included in a novel the idea that there are *no* super-advanced civilisations anywhere, because there are periodic massive Gamma Ray Bursters which sterilise the surrounding space for thousands of lightyears and set evolution back to stage one.
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I mean just look at the sky, how many stars are there! There gotta be some other civilizations exist out there. If they do exist, who created them? Did the GOD who created the Earth also created them? What kind of cars do they drive, do they also have computers and internet too? What do they look like, do they look like us? Are they smarter than us? Think about it, it's kind of interesting.
This is my theory: Aliens exist but they can't get here because the universe is stupidly large and the speed of light isn't up to the task or traversing even a small fraction of it. A lot of people go for the, "if they exist why aren't they here" theory to rule Aliens out. But if we assume for a second that Einstein was right and you can't ever exceed the speed of light (or in fact ever reach it) then this could provide an answer - It would take so long so why bother: by the time you get there odds are the civilisation has collapsed; assuming there's anything left at all. Steve
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Eloquently put. :) It takes heavier elements (up to and beyond iron) to make complex life, which come from supernovae. It takes time for stars to burn out and for their supernovae to blow these heavier elements into interstellar space, and for enough of that matter to exist to form rocky planets, and for life to evolve on those planets, so humans are probably among the earliest advanced civilisations to evolve in the universe. Stephen Baxter included in a novel the idea that there are *no* super-advanced civilisations anywhere, because there are periodic massive Gamma Ray Bursters which sterilise the surrounding space for thousands of lightyears and set evolution back to stage one.
viaduct wrote:
It takes heavier elements (up to and beyond iron) to make complex life
Any life we're aware of. When considering Alien life you shouldn't rule out the possibility that their construction could also be "alien". Steve
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I mean just look at the sky, how many stars are there! There gotta be some other civilizations exist out there. If they do exist, who created them? Did the GOD who created the Earth also created them? What kind of cars do they drive, do they also have computers and internet too? What do they look like, do they look like us? Are they smarter than us? Think about it, it's kind of interesting.
I'll wait for the evidence, until then it's an unknown. Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
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viaduct wrote:
It takes heavier elements (up to and beyond iron) to make complex life
Any life we're aware of. When considering Alien life you shouldn't rule out the possibility that their construction could also be "alien". Steve
Stephen Hewitt wrote:
Any life we're aware of. When considering Alien life you shouldn't rule out the possibility that their construction could also be "alien".
I'm not so sure. Complex life requires complex chemicals, and Carbon forms the widest range of stable compounds, so will be favoured by natural selection. Silicon doesn't come close to carbon, so any life based on it will be greatly limited in its complexity. At the moment, life on earth is the only kind of life we've got to go on, so our best guess has to be that life here formed in the way it did because that was the best way to do it. Life elsewhere will probably therefore resemble, to a degree, life on earth, with similar chemical processes. Until we find alien life, we've got nothing else to go on - unless Bob would like to give us a blood sample?
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I'll wait for the evidence, until then it's an unknown. Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
You gotta believe it. We are a fraction of a dust if the universe is an ocean (who's size is infinity!). Wont there be any other dust in the other part of the ocean?? not one, but millions would be there. Its our inability that we couldn't zoom past the pluto.lol. We dont need to go for other galaxies, even in Milky way, we are almost invisible, why take the earth, The sun, huh even the solar system is invisilbe when you look at the milkyway. So even in our own galaxy, there are too many possibilities that guys are out there too. who knows the story behind the "Bob" icon. Aliens are more intelligent that they can disguise themselves as humans and do excellent works on the internet and I guess they are very generous too ;)
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I do. It would be awfully arrogant to assume we are a special case in the universe.
Link2006 wrote:
Did the GOD who created the Earth also created them?
I don't believe a god created any of it. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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Paul Watson wrote:
Special Case
I thought you are gonna come up with a crop circle here :-D
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I mean just look at the sky, how many stars are there! There gotta be some other civilizations exist out there. If they do exist, who created them? Did the GOD who created the Earth also created them? What kind of cars do they drive, do they also have computers and internet too? What do they look like, do they look like us? Are they smarter than us? Think about it, it's kind of interesting.
They exist , but do they pay taxes ?
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Stephen Hewitt wrote:
Any life we're aware of. When considering Alien life you shouldn't rule out the possibility that their construction could also be "alien".
I'm not so sure. Complex life requires complex chemicals, and Carbon forms the widest range of stable compounds, so will be favoured by natural selection. Silicon doesn't come close to carbon, so any life based on it will be greatly limited in its complexity. At the moment, life on earth is the only kind of life we've got to go on, so our best guess has to be that life here formed in the way it did because that was the best way to do it. Life elsewhere will probably therefore resemble, to a degree, life on earth, with similar chemical processes. Until we find alien life, we've got nothing else to go on - unless Bob would like to give us a blood sample?
viaduct wrote:
Complex life requires complex chemicals
Perhaps; perhaps not. For example, many complex circuits can be etched onto a silicon chip but the chip consists of mainly silicon with tiny amounts of doping agents such as arsenic. Conway’s game of life is another good example. Complexity can arise in many ways. In these examples the complexity is in the interconnection between simple units. Life in an opportunist. Steve
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ihoecken wrote:
GOD created this world, ...I think that he created the whole universe
Actually, there is a god for each world. We are all his little experiment. If we fuck up, he gets a D in his end of term exam. Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
If we f*** up, he gets a D in his end of term exam.
"if" ??? _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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viaduct wrote:
Complex life requires complex chemicals
Perhaps; perhaps not. For example, many complex circuits can be etched onto a silicon chip but the chip consists of mainly silicon with tiny amounts of doping agents such as arsenic. Conway’s game of life is another good example. Complexity can arise in many ways. In these examples the complexity is in the interconnection between simple units. Life in an opportunist. Steve
Are you suggesting that complex life could arise by the natural etching of transistors onto a naturally almost pure silicon substrate with naturally just the right levels of doping? :omg: And Conway's game of life produces pretty patterns but it's hardly displaying enough intelligence to build a Shuttle.
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They exist , but do they pay taxes ?
The three constants of civilization... death, taxes, and stupidity. Without death there is no desire for change of environment, no encouragement for advancement, civilization would have no meaning or advantage so would have almost no likelyhood to evolve (can't quite say never evolve because there is always random chance, but chaos theory is hard to measure). Stupidity is a social norm, a cluster of individuals devolve to the equal stupidity of their lowest individual. Ask any rancher the intelligence of a cluster of his herd if you want a non-human example. Taxes... due to the prior... a large cluster of individuals will be incapable of perceiving of how to survive without taxing for funding civilization itself, the larger the group the more intent on taxes being necessary, the only goal is "hiding" the tax so that it is not perceived. The goal is either tax, or utilize the constant existance of stupidity to fool the civilized group into believing taxes do not exist. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Link2006 must be pretty disappointed after having read your reply. ;P
Maxwell Chen
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Are you suggesting that complex life could arise by the natural etching of transistors onto a naturally almost pure silicon substrate with naturally just the right levels of doping? :omg: And Conway's game of life produces pretty patterns but it's hardly displaying enough intelligence to build a Shuttle.
viaduct wrote:
Are you suggesting that complex life could arise by the natural etching of transistors onto a naturally almost pure silicon substrate with naturally just the right levels of doping?
No, I'm not. I am trying to demonstrate that complex systems can be constructed from limited ingredients (limited in type, not quantity).
viaduct wrote:
And Conway's game of life produces pretty patterns but it's hardly displaying enough intelligence to build a Shuttle.
Not so. It has been proven that Conway's game of life is a universal turing machine: It can do whatever a computer can. Steve
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I mean just look at the sky, how many stars are there! There gotta be some other civilizations exist out there. If they do exist, who created them? Did the GOD who created the Earth also created them? What kind of cars do they drive, do they also have computers and internet too? What do they look like, do they look like us? Are they smarter than us? Think about it, it's kind of interesting.
Yes I do believe there are life forms outside the solar system, and some of them possibly intelligent (in our view of it anyway). I don't believe a god created the earth or the universe. Regards, Nish
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I mean just look at the sky, how many stars are there! There gotta be some other civilizations exist out there. If they do exist, who created them? Did the GOD who created the Earth also created them? What kind of cars do they drive, do they also have computers and internet too? What do they look like, do they look like us? Are they smarter than us? Think about it, it's kind of interesting.
That's an easy question because The Creator tells us all about it. Genesis 1 mentions everything God created, including the heavens. There is no mention of Him putting life up there. Man was created to rule over the earth (Gen 1:26) and was created in the likeness of God (Gen 1:27). Then why are the stars there, you may ask? Gen 1:14-18 "'...to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years; and let them be for lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth'; and it was so. And God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also. And God placed them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, and to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness; and God saw that it was good." So the stars are there for us! A good answer is also given here: UFOs and aliens—is there something going on?[^] Barry Etter
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I neither believe nor disbelieve. I don't see any reason why there couldn't be, but I haven't seen anything that suggests there is. I reserve judgement until I see more evidence :)
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
Yeah, but once you see the proof, you can no longer say I can or can't believe. It will be right there in front of you. However, seeing the universe movie of last week, it seems impossible that only one planet in billions out of one galaxy in billions could only support bras, umm I mean life. So I have to believe that there is life out there, but the chances of us ever seeing them, unless our worlds are about to collide :), are very, very slim. There are II kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who understand Roman numerals. Web - Blog - RSS - Math
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Link2006 must be pretty disappointed after having read your reply. ;P
Maxwell Chen
Maxwell Chen wrote:
Link2006 must be pretty disappointed after having read your reply.
Oh sorry. That wasn't my intention. I call myself honest (I say what I think) my friends call me cynic. I guess they are right. :^) ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.
