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  • B Bob X

    When I click on a post to view it, it expands as normal, but the bottom of the post centers itself on the bottom of my screen, not the top of the post on the top of the screen as before... Anyone else getting this?

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    Chris Meech
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    Clicking on a link that should explode open, should normally cause a window scroll down and then the opening filled with in this case, the text of the post. Why anyone thinks it necessary to now reposition the entire window, is beyond me. The only time I would consider a reposition is if during the original scroll of the window, the bottom of the opening, goes beyond the bottom threshold of the window and possibly I could live with a reposition in order to see the entire post. I suspect that what is really happening is that when the post is opened, the browser is mucking up the scroll sizes and view port position and that's why the seeming shift occurs. Regardless, I'd vote for going back to the way it used to be. [Edit] A little testing shows that if you close a post by clicking it's link when open, then when you next open a post, no scrolling takes place. I think the script that is closing an open post, before it opens the post clicked on is screwing up somehow. [/Edit] Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] When I want privacy, I'll close the bathroom door. [Stan Shannon] GOOD DAY FOR: Bean counters, as the Australian Taxation Office said that prostitutes and strippers could claim tax deductions for adult toys and sexy lingerie. [Associated Press] -- modified at 11:49 Thursday 11th May, 2006

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      Yeah, if you read a few posts below someone mentions how great it is and how it was stolen from CPHog. It sucks big fat donkey dicks. I wish they wouldn't fuck with the good points of the site. Chris, put it fucking back the way it was for fucks sake. Hey look, the script picks up fuck and fucking but not fucks. The magical s saves the day, yet again. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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      Well, i'm assuming you're all just complaining because it takes a few hours to fully comprehend how insanely great this behavior actually is... But just for the heck of it, here's a little more information:

      1. I put this method of expanding messages into CPhog something like a year ago, as the existing method of expanding messages was really getting on my nerves. Apologies to the well-trained muscle memory that makes you think the old way was ever a good idea, but making something move out of the way when you click on it is nothing but a dirty trick.
      2. I'd offered the code to Chris on various occasions, as there have been complaints about this behavior in Suggestions and elsewhere, and for some reason not everyone wants to take the time to install my little hacks.
      3. What finally prompted me to cleanup the code and make it suitable for use on the site was this annoying "feature" of the Mozilla-specific code on CP: if the forum didn't load completely, clicking any message subjects would reload the entire page. Using code that works for both IE and FF fixed this nicely.
      4. So i badgered Chris non-stop until the site was updated. So Chris kindly agreed to update the site.

      Frankly, it doesn't matter too much to me if the old or new message behavior is used site-wide (as i'll use my own script if it doesn't) so long as #3 stays fixed.

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        Clicking on a link that should explode open, should normally cause a window scroll down and then the opening filled with in this case, the text of the post. Why anyone thinks it necessary to now reposition the entire window, is beyond me. The only time I would consider a reposition is if during the original scroll of the window, the bottom of the opening, goes beyond the bottom threshold of the window and possibly I could live with a reposition in order to see the entire post. I suspect that what is really happening is that when the post is opened, the browser is mucking up the scroll sizes and view port position and that's why the seeming shift occurs. Regardless, I'd vote for going back to the way it used to be. [Edit] A little testing shows that if you close a post by clicking it's link when open, then when you next open a post, no scrolling takes place. I think the script that is closing an open post, before it opens the post clicked on is screwing up somehow. [/Edit] Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] When I want privacy, I'll close the bathroom door. [Stan Shannon] GOOD DAY FOR: Bean counters, as the Australian Taxation Office said that prostitutes and strippers could claim tax deductions for adult toys and sexy lingerie. [Associated Press] -- modified at 11:49 Thursday 11th May, 2006

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        Chris Meech wrote:

        Clicking on a link that should explode open, should normally cause a window scroll down and then the opening filled with in this case, the text of the post.

        How does this not describe the new (current) behavior? The only time you should be seeing a scroll is when:

        1. Expanding a message collapses another one above it, thus causing the one you just expanded to move up, or
        2. Expanding a message results in part of the message ending up off-screen.

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          Well, i'm assuming you're all just complaining because it takes a few hours to fully comprehend how insanely great this behavior actually is... But just for the heck of it, here's a little more information:

          1. I put this method of expanding messages into CPhog something like a year ago, as the existing method of expanding messages was really getting on my nerves. Apologies to the well-trained muscle memory that makes you think the old way was ever a good idea, but making something move out of the way when you click on it is nothing but a dirty trick.
          2. I'd offered the code to Chris on various occasions, as there have been complaints about this behavior in Suggestions and elsewhere, and for some reason not everyone wants to take the time to install my little hacks.
          3. What finally prompted me to cleanup the code and make it suitable for use on the site was this annoying "feature" of the Mozilla-specific code on CP: if the forum didn't load completely, clicking any message subjects would reload the entire page. Using code that works for both IE and FF fixed this nicely.
          4. So i badgered Chris non-stop until the site was updated. So Chris kindly agreed to update the site.

          Frankly, it doesn't matter too much to me if the old or new message behavior is used site-wide (as i'll use my own script if it doesn't) so long as #3 stays fixed.

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          Grease Paint and Monkey Brains

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          You can have your #3, what you describe would piss me off too. But as far as the clicked post moving to the top of the screen and being fully readable on most displays without scrolling, beautiful. I sometimes have to use shitboxes running at 800x600 (1600x1200 at home) and with the new method in place I will have RSI in a week. Big fat donkey dicks I tell ya. It won't grow on me in time either. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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          • B Bob X

            When I click on a post to view it, it expands as normal, but the bottom of the post centers itself on the bottom of my screen, not the top of the post on the top of the screen as before... Anyone else getting this?

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            Christopher Duncan
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            You know, (and I say this with all possible respect), for a global community who shows up primarily to get "something for nothing", you guys sure do whine a lot about the quality of your free services. :-D Christopher Duncan Practical Strategy Consulting Author of The Career Programmer Unite the Tribes

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            • C Chris Losinger

              yeah. me no likey. too much scrolling required. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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              Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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              Me neither. X| Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                I think it's because your user name is the same as the that of the mascot, and on their planet, they prefer to read web sites like that.

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                Why don't you

                Oh John, that bright green doesn't fit the sky-blue background ...


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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  I think you meant "fuck's". Of course the widely recognized acronym - "FFS" - could have been used without risking a grammatic faux-pas. "Fuckin" also escapes the filter..." :)

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

                  -- modified at 11:02 Thursday 11th May, 2006

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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  escapes the filter...

                  Let me have a try: F u c k i n g, ... It's working! ;P


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                  • C Christopher Duncan

                    You know, (and I say this with all possible respect), for a global community who shows up primarily to get "something for nothing", you guys sure do whine a lot about the quality of your free services. :-D Christopher Duncan Practical Strategy Consulting Author of The Career Programmer Unite the Tribes

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                    It's my right as an Australian. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                    • M Maxwell Chen

                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      Why don't you

                      Oh John, that bright green doesn't fit the sky-blue background ...


                      Maxwell Chen

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                      realJSOP
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                      It's not my fault, and I'm not changing my code to compensate.

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        You know, (and I say this with all possible respect), for a global community who shows up primarily to get "something for nothing", you guys sure do whine a lot about the quality of your free services. :-D Christopher Duncan Practical Strategy Consulting Author of The Career Programmer Unite the Tribes

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                        If I'm gonna get something for nothing, then by god it should be exactly what I freakin want... :)

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          If I'm gonna get something for nothing, then by god it should be exactly what I freakin want... :)

                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          Christopher Duncan
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                          :laugh: By the way, based on your earlier posts, I'm not sure this sig is what you're looking for. Lime green text on a baby blue background is effectively unreadable. Not to mention just plain fugly. :-D Christopher Duncan Practical Strategy Consulting Author of The Career Programmer Unite the Tribes

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                          • B Bob X

                            When I click on a post to view it, it expands as normal, but the bottom of the post centers itself on the bottom of my screen, not the top of the post on the top of the screen as before... Anyone else getting this?

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                            I can live with it but I am not terribly thrilled with the change. I now seem to be scrolling more with the wheel. Plus as you move further down the thread list, once the message exceeds the screen height you cant click further links until you scroll back up. It just makes it harded to quickly scan the threads. Just my 2 bits. David

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                              It's my right as an Australian. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                              Christopher Duncan
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                              Interesting. I'd always pictured Aussies as fairly tough blokes, so invoking the "right to whine" is a bit of a shocker. :-D Christopher Duncan Practical Strategy Consulting Author of The Career Programmer Unite the Tribes

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                                :laugh: By the way, based on your earlier posts, I'm not sure this sig is what you're looking for. Lime green text on a baby blue background is effectively unreadable. Not to mention just plain fugly. :-D Christopher Duncan Practical Strategy Consulting Author of The Career Programmer Unite the Tribes

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                                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                Lime green text on a baby blue background is effectively unreadable. Not to mention just plain fugly.

                                John's not going to change! ;P Reference[^]


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                                  I can live with it but I am not terribly thrilled with the change. I now seem to be scrolling more with the wheel. Plus as you move further down the thread list, once the message exceeds the screen height you cant click further links until you scroll back up. It just makes it harded to quickly scan the threads. Just my 2 bits. David

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                                  Orcrist wrote:

                                  I now seem to be scrolling more with the wheel. Plus as you move further down the thread list, once the message exceeds the screen height you cant click further links until you scroll back up.

                                  Don't move your mouse down, scroll the page up. ;)

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                                    Chris Meech wrote:

                                    Clicking on a link that should explode open, should normally cause a window scroll down and then the opening filled with in this case, the text of the post.

                                    How does this not describe the new (current) behavior? The only time you should be seeing a scroll is when:

                                    1. Expanding a message collapses another one above it, thus causing the one you just expanded to move up, or
                                    2. Expanding a message results in part of the message ending up off-screen.

                                    :confused: ----

                                    Grease Paint and Monkey Brains

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                                    Andy Brummer
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                                    I think it should reposition so that at least the next post or next few posts are clickable without scrolling unless that would push the open post off the screen. I think that is what is irking everyone. It is annoying to have to scroll to a link that was visible before the expand. I never really minded because I'm getting all the other CPHog goodness. Except for having to disable CPHog because the quick post always gets The operation failed unexpectedly without fail, it is working great.


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                                      Clicking on a link that should explode open, should normally cause a window scroll down and then the opening filled with in this case, the text of the post. Why anyone thinks it necessary to now reposition the entire window, is beyond me. The only time I would consider a reposition is if during the original scroll of the window, the bottom of the opening, goes beyond the bottom threshold of the window and possibly I could live with a reposition in order to see the entire post. I suspect that what is really happening is that when the post is opened, the browser is mucking up the scroll sizes and view port position and that's why the seeming shift occurs. Regardless, I'd vote for going back to the way it used to be. [Edit] A little testing shows that if you close a post by clicking it's link when open, then when you next open a post, no scrolling takes place. I think the script that is closing an open post, before it opens the post clicked on is screwing up somehow. [/Edit] Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] When I want privacy, I'll close the bathroom door. [Stan Shannon] GOOD DAY FOR: Bean counters, as the Australian Taxation Office said that prostitutes and strippers could claim tax deductions for adult toys and sexy lingerie. [Associated Press] -- modified at 11:49 Thursday 11th May, 2006

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                                      Rage
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                                      Chris Meech wrote:

                                      if you close a post

                                      Why would anyone want to close a post ? ~RaGE();

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                                        Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                        Lime green text on a baby blue background is effectively unreadable. Not to mention just plain fugly.

                                        John's not going to change! ;P Reference[^]


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                                        Christopher Duncan
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                                        Good thing I checked the link. I thought you were talking about his personality. :laugh: Christopher Duncan Practical Strategy Consulting Author of The Career Programmer Unite the Tribes

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                                          Good thing I checked the link. I thought you were talking about his personality. :laugh: Christopher Duncan Practical Strategy Consulting Author of The Career Programmer Unite the Tribes

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                                          Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                          I thought you were talking about his personality.

                                          :laugh::laugh::laugh:


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