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  • O Orcrist

    I can live with it but I am not terribly thrilled with the change. I now seem to be scrolling more with the wheel. Plus as you move further down the thread list, once the message exceeds the screen height you cant click further links until you scroll back up. It just makes it harded to quickly scan the threads. Just my 2 bits. David

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    Orcrist wrote:

    I now seem to be scrolling more with the wheel. Plus as you move further down the thread list, once the message exceeds the screen height you cant click further links until you scroll back up.

    Don't move your mouse down, scroll the page up. ;)

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      Chris Meech wrote:

      Clicking on a link that should explode open, should normally cause a window scroll down and then the opening filled with in this case, the text of the post.

      How does this not describe the new (current) behavior? The only time you should be seeing a scroll is when:

      1. Expanding a message collapses another one above it, thus causing the one you just expanded to move up, or
      2. Expanding a message results in part of the message ending up off-screen.

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      Grease Paint and Monkey Brains

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      Andy Brummer
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      I think it should reposition so that at least the next post or next few posts are clickable without scrolling unless that would push the open post off the screen. I think that is what is irking everyone. It is annoying to have to scroll to a link that was visible before the expand. I never really minded because I'm getting all the other CPHog goodness. Except for having to disable CPHog because the quick post always gets The operation failed unexpectedly without fail, it is working great.


      I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon

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        Clicking on a link that should explode open, should normally cause a window scroll down and then the opening filled with in this case, the text of the post. Why anyone thinks it necessary to now reposition the entire window, is beyond me. The only time I would consider a reposition is if during the original scroll of the window, the bottom of the opening, goes beyond the bottom threshold of the window and possibly I could live with a reposition in order to see the entire post. I suspect that what is really happening is that when the post is opened, the browser is mucking up the scroll sizes and view port position and that's why the seeming shift occurs. Regardless, I'd vote for going back to the way it used to be. [Edit] A little testing shows that if you close a post by clicking it's link when open, then when you next open a post, no scrolling takes place. I think the script that is closing an open post, before it opens the post clicked on is screwing up somehow. [/Edit] Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] When I want privacy, I'll close the bathroom door. [Stan Shannon] GOOD DAY FOR: Bean counters, as the Australian Taxation Office said that prostitutes and strippers could claim tax deductions for adult toys and sexy lingerie. [Associated Press] -- modified at 11:49 Thursday 11th May, 2006

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        Rage
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        Chris Meech wrote:

        if you close a post

        Why would anyone want to close a post ? ~RaGE();

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          Christopher Duncan wrote:

          Lime green text on a baby blue background is effectively unreadable. Not to mention just plain fugly.

          John's not going to change! ;P Reference[^]


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          Christopher Duncan
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          Good thing I checked the link. I thought you were talking about his personality. :laugh: Christopher Duncan Practical Strategy Consulting Author of The Career Programmer Unite the Tribes

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            Good thing I checked the link. I thought you were talking about his personality. :laugh: Christopher Duncan Practical Strategy Consulting Author of The Career Programmer Unite the Tribes

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            Maxwell Chen
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            Christopher Duncan wrote:

            I thought you were talking about his personality.

            :laugh::laugh::laugh:


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            • B Bob X

              When I click on a post to view it, it expands as normal, but the bottom of the post centers itself on the bottom of my screen, not the top of the post on the top of the screen as before... Anyone else getting this?

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              Dan Neely
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              Add a combo box like the one used to show the View Style.

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              • O Orcrist

                I can live with it but I am not terribly thrilled with the change. I now seem to be scrolling more with the wheel. Plus as you move further down the thread list, once the message exceeds the screen height you cant click further links until you scroll back up. It just makes it harded to quickly scan the threads. Just my 2 bits. David

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                Dan Neely
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                Same here. With the old one, for the ~90% of posts that are a halfdozenish lines, my cursor's always very close to the link to the next in the thread. Now it's never anywhere near where my cursor is.

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                • C Chris Losinger

                  yeah. me no likey. too much scrolling required. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                  Jon Sagara
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                  Ditto. X| Jon Sagara When I grow up, I'm changing my name to Joe Kickass! My Site | My Blog | My Articles

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                  • C Christopher Duncan

                    Interesting. I'd always pictured Aussies as fairly tough blokes, so invoking the "right to whine" is a bit of a shocker. :-D Christopher Duncan Practical Strategy Consulting Author of The Career Programmer Unite the Tribes

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                    Lost User
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                    Christopher Duncan wrote:

                    Interesting. I'd always pictured Aussies as fairly tough blokes,

                    We are.

                    Christopher Duncan wrote:

                    so invoking the "right to whine" is a bit of a shocker. :-D

                    Hereditry unfortunately, we're mostly of Pommy stock. Much like Americans are decended from religious wackos kicked out of Europe, that's why envagelists work so well over there as well as cults. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                    • B Bob X

                      When I click on a post to view it, it expands as normal, but the bottom of the post centers itself on the bottom of my screen, not the top of the post on the top of the screen as before... Anyone else getting this?

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                      xlr ltspan style font size110 color 990000font we
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                      It's not so bad - if you're reading from bottom to top.

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                      • B Bob X

                        When I click on a post to view it, it expands as normal, but the bottom of the post centers itself on the bottom of my screen, not the top of the post on the top of the screen as before... Anyone else getting this?

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                        Michael Dunn
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                        Because it makes the most common case - reading forward through a thread - difficult. The old way went like this:

                        • Click a subject line.
                        • Look at the top of the browser window to find the top of the post. The post always started in the same physical location on the screen, so this was easy to do.
                        • Read the post.
                        • Move the mouse down to the next subject line. Click it.
                        • Repeat as I go through the thread.

                        Now it goes like this, with pain points in bold:

                        • Click a subject line
                        • Figure out where the top of the post is. Since the post is bottom-aligned in the window, the top of the post isn't in a predictable place.
                        • Read the post.
                        • Scroll the window to find the next subjct line. Click it.
                        • Repeat and get annoyed as I go through the thread.

                        --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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                          I think it should reposition so that at least the next post or next few posts are clickable without scrolling unless that would push the open post off the screen. I think that is what is irking everyone. It is annoying to have to scroll to a link that was visible before the expand. I never really minded because I'm getting all the other CPHog goodness. Except for having to disable CPHog because the quick post always gets The operation failed unexpectedly without fail, it is working great.


                          I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon

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                          Andy Brummer wrote:

                          Except for having to disable CPHog because the quick post always gets The operation failed unexpectedly without fail, it is working great.

                          Come again?

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                          • C Christopher Duncan

                            You know, (and I say this with all possible respect), for a global community who shows up primarily to get "something for nothing", you guys sure do whine a lot about the quality of your free services. :-D Christopher Duncan Practical Strategy Consulting Author of The Career Programmer Unite the Tribes

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                            Michael Dunn
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                            OK, this is bullshit I see all the time on the net and I'm calling you on it. The fact that something is offered for free does not mean that its users can't complain, criticize, or yes even whine about it. Taking the stance "it's free, shut up and like it" shows huge disrespect for the users, without whom there would be no site at all.

                            --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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                              Good thing I checked the link. I thought you were talking about his personality. :laugh: Christopher Duncan Practical Strategy Consulting Author of The Career Programmer Unite the Tribes

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                              realJSOP
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                              Well, that's not changing either... :)

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                yeah. me no likey. too much scrolling required. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                                Me too. It's hard on the fingers. :( /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                • M Michael Dunn

                                  OK, this is bullshit I see all the time on the net and I'm calling you on it. The fact that something is offered for free does not mean that its users can't complain, criticize, or yes even whine about it. Taking the stance "it's free, shut up and like it" shows huge disrespect for the users, without whom there would be no site at all.

                                  --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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                                  Christopher Duncan
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                                  Michael Dunn wrote:

                                  OK, this is bullsh*t I see all the time on the net and I'm calling you on it.

                                  No fun doing this stuff if nobody does. :-D I'm an American, which means that I was raised in a culture that tells me I have a right to bitch and moan about most anything I like. Part of the reason for this is the feeling that criticism can be constructive and lead to better things, and often times this is true. By the same token, gratitude for the efforts of others isn't entirely out of the question. I guess I'm just becoming weary of the growing sense of entitlement I see, both in my own country and on the Internet. Christopher Duncan Practical Strategy Consulting Author of The Career Programmer Unite the Tribes

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                                  • M Michael Dunn

                                    Because it makes the most common case - reading forward through a thread - difficult. The old way went like this:

                                    • Click a subject line.
                                    • Look at the top of the browser window to find the top of the post. The post always started in the same physical location on the screen, so this was easy to do.
                                    • Read the post.
                                    • Move the mouse down to the next subject line. Click it.
                                    • Repeat as I go through the thread.

                                    Now it goes like this, with pain points in bold:

                                    • Click a subject line
                                    • Figure out where the top of the post is. Since the post is bottom-aligned in the window, the top of the post isn't in a predictable place.
                                    • Read the post.
                                    • Scroll the window to find the next subjct line. Click it.
                                    • Repeat and get annoyed as I go through the thread.

                                    --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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                                    The only real fix is to adopt a real message forum setup. I realize Chris, etc al., worked their collective butts off on this, but frankly, there's better stuff out there.

                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                      Andy Brummer wrote:

                                      Except for having to disable CPHog because the quick post always gets The operation failed unexpectedly without fail, it is working great.

                                      Come again?

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                                      Andy Brummer
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                                      I haven't been able to use what used to be the quick post feature in the beta version for a few days now from any of the 3 systems that I use it on.


                                      I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon

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                                      • M Michael Dunn

                                        Because it makes the most common case - reading forward through a thread - difficult. The old way went like this:

                                        • Click a subject line.
                                        • Look at the top of the browser window to find the top of the post. The post always started in the same physical location on the screen, so this was easy to do.
                                        • Read the post.
                                        • Move the mouse down to the next subject line. Click it.
                                        • Repeat as I go through the thread.

                                        Now it goes like this, with pain points in bold:

                                        • Click a subject line
                                        • Figure out where the top of the post is. Since the post is bottom-aligned in the window, the top of the post isn't in a predictable place.
                                        • Read the post.
                                        • Scroll the window to find the next subjct line. Click it.
                                        • Repeat and get annoyed as I go through the thread.

                                        --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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                                        Good, clear write-up, Mike. I hadn't looked at it that way, as i usually click once to open and then again to close a post before moving on to the next one.

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                                        • B Bob X

                                          When I click on a post to view it, it expands as normal, but the bottom of the post centers itself on the bottom of my screen, not the top of the post on the top of the screen as before... Anyone else getting this?

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                                          Kant
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                                          Bob X wrote:

                                          but the bottom of the post centers itself on the bottom of my screen, not the top of the post on the top of the screen as before

                                          I didn't get what you are saying. :confused: I can read the all messages. May be I have to scroll bit more to read other messages. Is that what you are complaining of? :doh: [Quick Reply][Reply][Email][View Thread][Get Link][Bookmark]

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