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  • M Marc Clifton

    It's sad your post got voted down. It's not a programming question, it's help on finding an algorithm which is different than "how do I make a button". Sigh. Get a life, all you 1 voters. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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    Jerry Hammond
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    I didn't vote it a 1--or any other number for that matter--but the post does strike me as a possible candidate for a homework question.

    “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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    • M Marc Clifton

      It's sad your post got voted down. It's not a programming question, it's help on finding an algorithm which is different than "how do I make a button". Sigh. Get a life, all you 1 voters. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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      Nick Jacobs
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      Marc Clifton wrote:

      It's sad your post got voted down. It's not a programming question, it's help on finding an algorithm which is different than "how do I make a button". Sigh. Get a life, all you 1 voters.

      I agree, it isn't a programming question, actually, all of this work is also for a volunteer organization on top of it. Oh well, I never took much faith in the "Voting" system anyways. Thanks for the input. Nick This are my own opinions. You know the rest.....

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      • J Jerry Hammond

        I didn't vote it a 1--or any other number for that matter--but the post does strike me as a possible candidate for a homework question.

        “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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        brianwelsch
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        Check his profile. Not likely a homework question. BW


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        • J Jerry Hammond

          I didn't vote it a 1--or any other number for that matter--but the post does strike me as a possible candidate for a homework question.

          “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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          Nick Jacobs
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          Jerry Hammond wrote:

          but the post does strike me as a possible candidate for a homework question.

          While I'm all for not helping out with homework questions, it's very hard to determine what is a homework question and what is not. In this case, it is to assist in scheduling Irish Dancers for a dance competition. I was thrown into it last minute and I have to have everything done by the 21st of May. Our guy that usually schedules this thing resigned literally 1 month ago and a bunch of us are trying to figure out what to do, on top of our other duties we have to handle. It's been 20 years since I've dealt with set theory. All of my jobs since then haven't had to worry about them. (I know I've got LOTS of math classes too, haven't used anything higher than Trig classes in 20 years either. Somebody brings up calculus and I'd have to go rethink it out again). In case anybody out there is wondering, the competition is called a Feis (pronounced fesh). There are several around the country(ies) most weekends, and many more around the world. My area has produced a few world champions (Think Michael Flatly of Riverdance Fame). www.akronfeis.com is our particular web site. It's more informational for the registered entries then what a feis actually is. Nick This are my own opinions. You know the rest.....

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            Jerry Hammond wrote:

            but the post does strike me as a possible candidate for a homework question.

            While I'm all for not helping out with homework questions, it's very hard to determine what is a homework question and what is not. In this case, it is to assist in scheduling Irish Dancers for a dance competition. I was thrown into it last minute and I have to have everything done by the 21st of May. Our guy that usually schedules this thing resigned literally 1 month ago and a bunch of us are trying to figure out what to do, on top of our other duties we have to handle. It's been 20 years since I've dealt with set theory. All of my jobs since then haven't had to worry about them. (I know I've got LOTS of math classes too, haven't used anything higher than Trig classes in 20 years either. Somebody brings up calculus and I'd have to go rethink it out again). In case anybody out there is wondering, the competition is called a Feis (pronounced fesh). There are several around the country(ies) most weekends, and many more around the world. My area has produced a few world champions (Think Michael Flatly of Riverdance Fame). www.akronfeis.com is our particular web site. It's more informational for the registered entries then what a feis actually is. Nick This are my own opinions. You know the rest.....

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            Jerry Hammond
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            What about his profile says he is unable to attend Uni or other learning institution?

            “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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            • J Jerry Hammond

              What about his profile says he is unable to attend Uni or other learning institution?

              “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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              Gary R Wheeler
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              Nick's profile is here[^]. If you read it, you find out he's been programming a long time and well beyond the need to post homework questions. Homework questions are typically posted with a statement of a problem and a demand, not a politely phrased request but a demand, for source code, and BTW they must have it by tomorrow or they'll flunk. Nick's original post was nothing like that. Cut him some slack.


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              • M Marc Clifton

                It's sad your post got voted down. It's not a programming question, it's help on finding an algorithm which is different than "how do I make a button". Sigh. Get a life, all you 1 voters. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                Lost User
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                Marc, I Agree your view. How did the Renaissance Spring Faire go Saturday - hope it wasn't spoilt by inclement weather.

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                • N Nick Jacobs

                  I've been "selected" to come up with a schedule of dance competitions. Not something I was expecting... Has anybody seen an algorithm that will allow to do to different weighted combinations into buckets? Here's an example: I've got 3 buckets (Stages actually) Competition 1: 3 Entries Competition 2: 4 Entries Competition 3: 2 Entries Competition 4: 1 Entry Competition 5: 2 Entries So the buckets would end up looking like this: B1: C1+C4 = 4 Entries B2: C2 = 4 Entries B3: C3+C5 = 4 Entries The idea is that each stage gets the same number of competitors so they all finish at the same time. Thanks for any help. Nick This are my own opinions. You know the rest..... -- modified at 22:46 Saturday 13th May, 2006

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                  David Cunningham
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                  Might this do it? http://www.efeis.com/Default.aspx?content=CompMgr[^] David

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                  • D David Cunningham

                    Might this do it? http://www.efeis.com/Default.aspx?content=CompMgr[^] David

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                    Nick Jacobs
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                    David Cunningham wrote:

                    Might this do it? http://www.efeis.com/Default.aspx?content=CompMgr\[^\] David

                    David, I had to laugh, in a good way, Actually, I talk with Andrew a fair amount, but his scheduling is self admitted as not being that good. I've been pushing him to help out by pushing the database for his Competition Manager over to SQL but it's still in Access. What I'd like to do is to figure out a good system that is compatible with his database format and continue to use it in the future.. Thanks for pointing it out though! Nick This are my own opinions. You know the rest.....

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                    • N Nick Jacobs

                      David Cunningham wrote:

                      Might this do it? http://www.efeis.com/Default.aspx?content=CompMgr\[^\] David

                      David, I had to laugh, in a good way, Actually, I talk with Andrew a fair amount, but his scheduling is self admitted as not being that good. I've been pushing him to help out by pushing the database for his Competition Manager over to SQL but it's still in Access. What I'd like to do is to figure out a good system that is compatible with his database format and continue to use it in the future.. Thanks for pointing it out though! Nick This are my own opinions. You know the rest.....

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                      David Cunningham
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                      Lol. I should have known. :D David

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                      • B brianwelsch

                        Check his profile. Not likely a homework question. BW


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                        El Corazon
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                        brianwelsch wrote:

                        Check his profile. Not likely a homework question.

                        You aren't honestly expecting everyone not to jump to conclusions and vote rashly? :omg: _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                          brianwelsch wrote:

                          Check his profile. Not likely a homework question.

                          You aren't honestly expecting everyone not to jump to conclusions and vote rashly? :omg: _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                          brianwelsch
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                          more hoping. :) BW


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                          • J Jerry Hammond

                            What about his profile says he is unable to attend Uni or other learning institution?

                            “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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                            brianwelsch
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                            Nothing really. My reasoning was based on the fact that he's in is late 30's and has had a computer at home for over 20 years (Vic-20 1st system...). A grown man who has been around computers for so long and hangs out at CP probably has some programming experience. Even if he was going to school at his age, which is not unlikely, he wouldn't be asking for help on homework, blatently, but rather would try to get the most of his education and work through problems on his own. BW


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                              Nothing really. My reasoning was based on the fact that he's in is late 30's and has had a computer at home for over 20 years (Vic-20 1st system...). A grown man who has been around computers for so long and hangs out at CP probably has some programming experience. Even if he was going to school at his age, which is not unlikely, he wouldn't be asking for help on homework, blatently, but rather would try to get the most of his education and work through problems on his own. BW


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                              Nick Jacobs
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                              Thanks Brian! You are right, I have had a computer around the house for many years now. For what it's worth, I do have a BS in Computer Science, Circa 1990. A couple of Masters Level credits too. I've been programming ever since, but not in this particular sense. Most has been with C++ in a engineering graphics environment. You just don't do set theory in that world. For this unique project, it's a matter of I haven't done it in 15 years. It's like most things, if you haven't done something for 15 years then chances are you'll have to reeducate yourself on what needs to be done. As I mentioned in another post, it's like Math, if somebody asked me to do Calc, I'd be in serious trouble, even though I've had 3 college level classes in calculus (More than the engineers I worked with), Differential Equations, Stats, etc. Again thanks. Nick This are my own opinions. You know the rest..... -- modified at 20:03 Sunday 14th May, 2006

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                                Thanks Brian! You are right, I have had a computer around the house for many years now. For what it's worth, I do have a BS in Computer Science, Circa 1990. A couple of Masters Level credits too. I've been programming ever since, but not in this particular sense. Most has been with C++ in a engineering graphics environment. You just don't do set theory in that world. For this unique project, it's a matter of I haven't done it in 15 years. It's like most things, if you haven't done something for 15 years then chances are you'll have to reeducate yourself on what needs to be done. As I mentioned in another post, it's like Math, if somebody asked me to do Calc, I'd be in serious trouble, even though I've had 3 college level classes in calculus (More than the engineers I worked with), Differential Equations, Stats, etc. Again thanks. Nick This are my own opinions. You know the rest..... -- modified at 20:03 Sunday 14th May, 2006

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                                Nick Jacobs wrote:

                                if you haven't done something for 15 years ...if somebody asked me to do Calc, I'd be in serious trouble

                                I know what you mean. I have a growing interest in learning about AI. I have [taken] several calculus courses, diff. Eq., etc, similar to you, yet I have this reluctance to reading too far into AI, because I know my math at this point has deteriorated to only a passing recognition of terminology, but nothing functional.

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                                Thanks Brian!

                                Anytime. :) BW


                                If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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                                -- modified at 20:13 Sunday 14th May, 2006

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                                • B brianwelsch

                                  Nothing really. My reasoning was based on the fact that he's in is late 30's and has had a computer at home for over 20 years (Vic-20 1st system...). A grown man who has been around computers for so long and hangs out at CP probably has some programming experience. Even if he was going to school at his age, which is not unlikely, he wouldn't be asking for help on homework, blatently, but rather would try to get the most of his education and work through problems on his own. BW


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                                  -- Steven Wright

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                                  Paul Conrad
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                                  brianwelsch wrote:

                                  get the most of his education and work through problems on his own

                                  I agree. I see CP like a virtual office water cooler where people can share thoughts and ideas. I didn't get the notion that the original post was a homework problem or programming question, but rather to see what ideas others may have had about the problem he was looking at. -- modified at 20:13 Sunday 14th May, 2006

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                                  • B brianwelsch

                                    more hoping. :) BW


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                                    El Corazon
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                                    brianwelsch wrote:

                                    more hoping.

                                    ahhhh... vain hope, greatest and most deadly of the demons unleashed by Pandora. ;P _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                    • G Gary R Wheeler

                                      Nick's profile is here[^]. If you read it, you find out he's been programming a long time and well beyond the need to post homework questions. Homework questions are typically posted with a statement of a problem and a demand, not a politely phrased request but a demand, for source code, and BTW they must have it by tomorrow or they'll flunk. Nick's original post was nothing like that. Cut him some slack.


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                                      Jerry Hammond
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                                      I only gave my impression of his post and thus a posit about why it may have received so many 1 votes. Personally I don't care if his question was homework or not, but obviously it does to a lot of other folks who, like myself, don't reveiw the profile of every one who posts in the lounge. So, while we're cutting slack here...

                                      “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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                                      • D David Cunningham

                                        Lol. I should have known. :D David

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                                        Andrew Bryan
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                                        ok, this is way too funny... I never thought Dave would have remembered my site! Nick, I am going to be hit and miss online tonight (one of my servers had a motherboard melt (ok, not melt but it may as well have)... try to catch me on IM anyway. We may be able to come up with a solution or draw from the schedule from another feis (Chicago or Cleveland perhaps). Andrew Andrew Bryan

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                                        • E El Corazon

                                          brianwelsch wrote:

                                          Check his profile. Not likely a homework question.

                                          You aren't honestly expecting everyone not to jump to conclusions and vote rashly? :omg: _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                          Jeremy Falcon
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                                          Or maybe not everyone looks as the profiles of every last poster in the world. I sure don't. Jeremy Falcon

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