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  • R Rob Manderson

    Nice trick question! I think it's a reasonable compromise between the legitimate concerns of US citizens and legal residents and reality. Of course it can be a reasonable compromise and totally unworkable, which it is. Why would anyone want to apply for a 'temporary worker' visa to legitimise when the sting in the tail is that at the end of it they have to return to their country of origin? Likewise with the other proposals I've seen. An illegal who can prove he's been here for x years gets legitimised? How does the illegal prove it? By showing employment records. So suddenly Walmart are going to admit they've employed illegals? An impossible bar to pass. Or Joe Blow the building contractor who picks up cheap labour at the corner of Bell and 7th street. Does he even have a record of some poor bastard he picked up in 1997 to help grub out the cactus on a desert block? If he does will he stand up and admit he broke the law? Of course not. So what's the solution? I don't know. Walls a thousand feet tall along the US Mexican border? I'd like to think that the America I believed in 40 years ago and that I became a part of as an LPR 4 years ago isn't like that. Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^]

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    Stan Shannon
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    Rob Manderson wrote:

    Nice trick question!

    For an idiot, you mean? :laugh:

    Rob Manderson wrote:

    I think it's a reasonable compromise between the legitimate concerns of US citizens and legal residents and reality...

    I would imagine that would be quite a conumdrum for someone in your position. On the one hand you've played fairly, by the rules and waited your turn to become an anti-American American, while others have cheated and slipped in illegally to become America hating Americans - and will be rewarded for it. On the other hand, the bash-America first crowd needs all the support it can get.

    Rob Manderson wrote:

    I'd like to think that the America I believed in 40 years ago and that I became a part of as an LPR 4 years ago isn't like that.

    But then, you're probably one of those who believe that bears and monkeys live in natural harmony. The America I believe in has always understood that natural harmony is only one meal away from monkey burgers - before internatinalists, multicultural, toleration and harmony guys like you came along, that is. "You get that which you tolerate"

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      This [^] is too funny. (warning - violent content may be offensive to some :laugh:) Apparently there is a fundamental flaw in the zoo's understanding of nature (but since I'm sure they are a bunch of lefties - that doesn't surprise me). Personally, I think we primates should stick together and teach the godless bears a lesson they'll never forget! I've had quite enough of this 'bears eating monkeys' nonsense. "You get that which you tolerate" -- modified at 5:22 Tuesday 16th May, 2006

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      Stan Shannon wrote:

      Personally, I think we primates should stick together and teach the godless bears a lesson they'll never forget!

      Just as well it was not a Russian Bear. That would have really upset you.

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        Stan Shannon wrote:

        Personally, I think we primates should stick together and teach the godless bears a lesson they'll never forget!

        Just as well it was not a Russian Bear. That would have really upset you.

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        All I know is that picture of the bear eating the monkey cracks me up everytime I look at it. It is a perfect metaphor for everything I believe about modern liberalism. "Extra, Extra - Hungry bear violates harmony of nature!" :laugh: "You get that which you tolerate"

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        • S Stan Shannon

          All I know is that picture of the bear eating the monkey cracks me up everytime I look at it. It is a perfect metaphor for everything I believe about modern liberalism. "Extra, Extra - Hungry bear violates harmony of nature!" :laugh: "You get that which you tolerate"

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          Stan Shannon wrote:

          picture of the bear eating the monkey cracks me up everytime I look at it

          Don't understand your sense of humour, but then, I am one of those individual who don't understand American Humour. Example : What is it that people find funny with the "Friends" sitcom. It just leaves me cold - no humour there for me :(

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            Rob Manderson wrote:

            Nice trick question!

            For an idiot, you mean? :laugh:

            Rob Manderson wrote:

            I think it's a reasonable compromise between the legitimate concerns of US citizens and legal residents and reality...

            I would imagine that would be quite a conumdrum for someone in your position. On the one hand you've played fairly, by the rules and waited your turn to become an anti-American American, while others have cheated and slipped in illegally to become America hating Americans - and will be rewarded for it. On the other hand, the bash-America first crowd needs all the support it can get.

            Rob Manderson wrote:

            I'd like to think that the America I believed in 40 years ago and that I became a part of as an LPR 4 years ago isn't like that.

            But then, you're probably one of those who believe that bears and monkeys live in natural harmony. The America I believe in has always understood that natural harmony is only one meal away from monkey burgers - before internatinalists, multicultural, toleration and harmony guys like you came along, that is. "You get that which you tolerate"

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            Thanks for the new sig. Your pragmatic logic shines through once again. :) Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] The America I believe in has always understood that natural harmony is only one meal away from monkey burgers. [Stan Shannon] GOOD DAY FOR: Bean counters, as the Australian Taxation Office said that prostitutes and strippers could claim tax deductions for adult toys and sexy lingerie. [Associated Press]

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              Stan Shannon wrote:

              picture of the bear eating the monkey cracks me up everytime I look at it

              Don't understand your sense of humour, but then, I am one of those individual who don't understand American Humour. Example : What is it that people find funny with the "Friends" sitcom. It just leaves me cold - no humour there for me :(

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              Abbottra wrote:

              It just leaves me cold - no humour there for me

              That just means you have good taste. ;) "If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done." - Peter Ustinov

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                Abbottra wrote:

                It just leaves me cold - no humour there for me

                That just means you have good taste. ;) "If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done." - Peter Ustinov

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                Strange thing is that my middle daughter can't get enought of that program. :-D

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                  Thanks for the new sig. Your pragmatic logic shines through once again. :) Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] The America I believe in has always understood that natural harmony is only one meal away from monkey burgers. [Stan Shannon] GOOD DAY FOR: Bean counters, as the Australian Taxation Office said that prostitutes and strippers could claim tax deductions for adult toys and sexy lingerie. [Associated Press]

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                  Chris Meech wrote:

                  Thanks for the new sig.

                  No problem. I was hopeing someone might! :) "You get that which you tolerate"

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                  • S Stan Shannon

                    This [^] is too funny. (warning - violent content may be offensive to some :laugh:) Apparently there is a fundamental flaw in the zoo's understanding of nature (but since I'm sure they are a bunch of lefties - that doesn't surprise me). Personally, I think we primates should stick together and teach the godless bears a lesson they'll never forget! I've had quite enough of this 'bears eating monkeys' nonsense. "You get that which you tolerate" -- modified at 5:22 Tuesday 16th May, 2006

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                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                    Apparently there is a fundamental flaw in the zoo's understanding of nature (but since I'm sure they are a bunch of lefties - that doesn't surprise me).

                    I think a traditional conservative ("magical thinking") anti-science ideology would be pretty ineffective at running a zoo, but okay. I mean, since conservatives are always right and never have to change or adapt their thinking, they wouldn't be moving the monkeys, they would just kill the bear, assuming that it's the problem. - F

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                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                      Apparently there is a fundamental flaw in the zoo's understanding of nature (but since I'm sure they are a bunch of lefties - that doesn't surprise me).

                      I think a traditional conservative ("magical thinking") anti-science ideology would be pretty ineffective at running a zoo, but okay. I mean, since conservatives are always right and never have to change or adapt their thinking, they wouldn't be moving the monkeys, they would just kill the bear, assuming that it's the problem. - F

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                      Your theory fails in practice. The Netherlands is a very left-wing country and their zoo-bears eat their zoo-monkeys. The United states is a relatively conservative country and our zoo-bears do not eat our zoo-monkeys. That clearly means that conservatives are better at running zoos than liberals in practice. Bernie Marcus (conservative Republican) founded the Georgia Aquarium which is the largest and arguably the best in the world (I've heard the one in Tokyo might be better). It has been very successful. We conservatives sure know how to do things!

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                        Your theory fails in practice. The Netherlands is a very left-wing country and their zoo-bears eat their zoo-monkeys. The United states is a relatively conservative country and our zoo-bears do not eat our zoo-monkeys. That clearly means that conservatives are better at running zoos than liberals in practice. Bernie Marcus (conservative Republican) founded the Georgia Aquarium which is the largest and arguably the best in the world (I've heard the one in Tokyo might be better). It has been very successful. We conservatives sure know how to do things!

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                        the Georgia Aquarium

                        :cool: I'd never heard of that. Have you been, yet? I found this in FAQ. Thought it was funny. _Is there a security check before you get into the aquarium?_ Yes. There are no guns, knives, matches, lighters **or fishing poles** allowed inside the Aquarium. :laugh: BW


                        If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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                        • R Red Stateler

                          Your theory fails in practice. The Netherlands is a very left-wing country and their zoo-bears eat their zoo-monkeys. The United states is a relatively conservative country and our zoo-bears do not eat our zoo-monkeys. That clearly means that conservatives are better at running zoos than liberals in practice. Bernie Marcus (conservative Republican) founded the Georgia Aquarium which is the largest and arguably the best in the world (I've heard the one in Tokyo might be better). It has been very successful. We conservatives sure know how to do things!

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                          espeir wrote:

                          their zoo-bears eat their zoo-monkeys. The United states is a relatively conservative country and our zoo-bears do not eat our zoo-monkeys

                          :laugh: "You get that which you tolerate"

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                          • R Red Stateler

                            Your theory fails in practice. The Netherlands is a very left-wing country and their zoo-bears eat their zoo-monkeys. The United states is a relatively conservative country and our zoo-bears do not eat our zoo-monkeys. That clearly means that conservatives are better at running zoos than liberals in practice. Bernie Marcus (conservative Republican) founded the Georgia Aquarium which is the largest and arguably the best in the world (I've heard the one in Tokyo might be better). It has been very successful. We conservatives sure know how to do things!

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                            espeir wrote:

                            The United states is a relatively conservative country and our zoo-bears do not eat our zoo-monkeys.

                            :laugh: Touche, sir, touche. - F

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                              Your theory fails in practice. The Netherlands is a very left-wing country and their zoo-bears eat their zoo-monkeys. The United states is a relatively conservative country and our zoo-bears do not eat our zoo-monkeys. That clearly means that conservatives are better at running zoos than liberals in practice. Bernie Marcus (conservative Republican) founded the Georgia Aquarium which is the largest and arguably the best in the world (I've heard the one in Tokyo might be better). It has been very successful. We conservatives sure know how to do things!

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                              espeir wrote:

                              We conservatives sure know how to do things!

                              I guess you mean how to conserve things :P

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