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    My wife and I volunteer our time to a golden retriever rescue group[^] based in Austin. We've been doing this for over five years, and my wife is currently the adoption coordinator for San Antonio. She recently got an adoption request which she had to reject because the individual making the request did not meet on eor more of the requirements that all adoptions must meet. She couldn't even remembr right off hand why she rejected the request, so she searched for the email that stated the reason(s). It turns out that the family's yard is not fenced (one of the big items they require). In any case, this guy wrote back complaining that he thought he may have been refused because the would sometimes be leaving the dog outside while his wife (who doesn't work and stays home most of the day) ran errands. Then, he stated that he felt the rejection might be due to his family being hispanic. This isn't the first time my wife has rejected an adoption application (in fact, they probably reject 3 out of every 10), but it IS the first time she's been accused of having racist motives for doing so. I hope this idiot is one of the 12 million replacement Mexicans espier was talking about...

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      My wife and I volunteer our time to a golden retriever rescue group[^] based in Austin. We've been doing this for over five years, and my wife is currently the adoption coordinator for San Antonio. She recently got an adoption request which she had to reject because the individual making the request did not meet on eor more of the requirements that all adoptions must meet. She couldn't even remembr right off hand why she rejected the request, so she searched for the email that stated the reason(s). It turns out that the family's yard is not fenced (one of the big items they require). In any case, this guy wrote back complaining that he thought he may have been refused because the would sometimes be leaving the dog outside while his wife (who doesn't work and stays home most of the day) ran errands. Then, he stated that he felt the rejection might be due to his family being hispanic. This isn't the first time my wife has rejected an adoption application (in fact, they probably reject 3 out of every 10), but it IS the first time she's been accused of having racist motives for doing so. I hope this idiot is one of the 12 million replacement Mexicans espier was talking about...

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      Playing the hard-done-by and oppressed minority card appears to be the norm these days when you can't get what you want by normal means. It strikes me that (with the US in particular) you have millions of uninvited and ILLEGAL guests now clamouring for equal status and all sorts of rights and priviliges that they've done nothing to earn or deserve. If they'd turned up uninvited in your home in the middle of the night by climbing through an unguarded but open window you could have shot them as intruders and been praised for defending your home and family. Isn't the US your home and its legal citizens your family? home
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        My wife and I volunteer our time to a golden retriever rescue group[^] based in Austin. We've been doing this for over five years, and my wife is currently the adoption coordinator for San Antonio. She recently got an adoption request which she had to reject because the individual making the request did not meet on eor more of the requirements that all adoptions must meet. She couldn't even remembr right off hand why she rejected the request, so she searched for the email that stated the reason(s). It turns out that the family's yard is not fenced (one of the big items they require). In any case, this guy wrote back complaining that he thought he may have been refused because the would sometimes be leaving the dog outside while his wife (who doesn't work and stays home most of the day) ran errands. Then, he stated that he felt the rejection might be due to his family being hispanic. This isn't the first time my wife has rejected an adoption application (in fact, they probably reject 3 out of every 10), but it IS the first time she's been accused of having racist motives for doing so. I hope this idiot is one of the 12 million replacement Mexicans espier was talking about...

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        it IS the first time she's been accused of having racist motives for doing so.

        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        I hope this idiot is one of the 12 million replacement Mexicans espier was talking about...

        Well, there's always a first time for everything, isn't there? I don't think it's wise to start generalizing based on one case. The guy may be acting suspiciously based on previous experiences where he's been discriminated against. He's obviously wrong now, but I wouldn't be so hard on him. Alvaro


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          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          it IS the first time she's been accused of having racist motives for doing so.

          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          I hope this idiot is one of the 12 million replacement Mexicans espier was talking about...

          Well, there's always a first time for everything, isn't there? I don't think it's wise to start generalizing based on one case. The guy may be acting suspiciously based on previous experiences where he's been discriminated against. He's obviously wrong now, but I wouldn't be so hard on him. Alvaro


          The bible was written when people were even more stupid than they are today. Can you imagine that? - David Cross

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          Alvaro Mendez wrote:

          Well, there's always a first time for everything, isn't there?

          Yeah...Because nobody ever plays the race card, do they? Two days ago I saw a protest in Sandy Springs (a satellite city). A bunch of Mexicans were holding up signs saying "Stop racism in Sandy Springs" painted in bright red and green. A couple weeks ago at an anti-illegal immigration rally downtown, a bunch of Mexicans stormed in and started chanting "racist! racist!". This behavior is obviously unheard of. :rolleyes:

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            Alvaro Mendez wrote:

            Well, there's always a first time for everything, isn't there?

            Yeah...Because nobody ever plays the race card, do they? Two days ago I saw a protest in Sandy Springs (a satellite city). A bunch of Mexicans were holding up signs saying "Stop racism in Sandy Springs" painted in bright red and green. A couple weeks ago at an anti-illegal immigration rally downtown, a bunch of Mexicans stormed in and started chanting "racist! racist!". This behavior is obviously unheard of. :rolleyes:

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            espeir wrote:

            Yeah...Because nobody ever plays the race card, do they?

            Again, please get out of your binary mindset. Just because a few people do it (justified or not) doesn't mean everyone else does. As John mentioned, this is the first time it's happened to his wife. Did you get that? First time.


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              espeir wrote:

              Yeah...Because nobody ever plays the race card, do they?

              Again, please get out of your binary mindset. Just because a few people do it (justified or not) doesn't mean everyone else does. As John mentioned, this is the first time it's happened to his wife. Did you get that? First time.


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              I think you're the one in the binary midset as I clearly did not state or imply that everyone does it. I implied that it is relatively commonplace while you implied that it is extremely rare (almost nonexistent...since you said "There's a first time for everything"). Since this behavior is commonly observable and since you clearly only think in black and white while I have an ability to see shades of nuanced grey, I would say that I'm right and you're not. Therefore: Neener Neener.

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                I think you're the one in the binary midset as I clearly did not state or imply that everyone does it. I implied that it is relatively commonplace while you implied that it is extremely rare (almost nonexistent...since you said "There's a first time for everything"). Since this behavior is commonly observable and since you clearly only think in black and white while I have an ability to see shades of nuanced grey, I would say that I'm right and you're not. Therefore: Neener Neener.

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                Thank God. For a moment there I thought you were going to blurt out, "I'm rubber, you're glue. Words bounce off me and stick to you."

                “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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                  I think you're the one in the binary midset as I clearly did not state or imply that everyone does it. I implied that it is relatively commonplace while you implied that it is extremely rare (almost nonexistent...since you said "There's a first time for everything"). Since this behavior is commonly observable and since you clearly only think in black and white while I have an ability to see shades of nuanced grey, I would say that I'm right and you're not. Therefore: Neener Neener.

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                  espeir wrote:

                  Neener Neener.

                  You've played the "neener neener" card, so there is no acceptable response. I guess this thread is pretty much finished. :)

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    I think you're the one in the binary midset as I clearly did not state or imply that everyone does it. I implied that it is relatively commonplace while you implied that it is extremely rare (almost nonexistent...since you said "There's a first time for everything"). Since this behavior is commonly observable and since you clearly only think in black and white while I have an ability to see shades of nuanced grey, I would say that I'm right and you're not. Therefore: Neener Neener.

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                    espeir wrote:

                    Therefore: Neener Neener.

                    OK then... ;P


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                      My wife and I volunteer our time to a golden retriever rescue group[^] based in Austin. We've been doing this for over five years, and my wife is currently the adoption coordinator for San Antonio. She recently got an adoption request which she had to reject because the individual making the request did not meet on eor more of the requirements that all adoptions must meet. She couldn't even remembr right off hand why she rejected the request, so she searched for the email that stated the reason(s). It turns out that the family's yard is not fenced (one of the big items they require). In any case, this guy wrote back complaining that he thought he may have been refused because the would sometimes be leaving the dog outside while his wife (who doesn't work and stays home most of the day) ran errands. Then, he stated that he felt the rejection might be due to his family being hispanic. This isn't the first time my wife has rejected an adoption application (in fact, they probably reject 3 out of every 10), but it IS the first time she's been accused of having racist motives for doing so. I hope this idiot is one of the 12 million replacement Mexicans espier was talking about...

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      Cynical and hypocritical bull5hit. You, espier, shanon and falcon are neo-KKK racists. That's a evident fact for everyone who's been reading your posts about muslims and latinos. It's also evident in your biography[^]. Stop whinning about a particular irrelevant incident, stupid racist. Go dress a white hood and burn crosses with your friends. It is a little less pathetic. Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)

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                        Cynical and hypocritical bull5hit. You, espier, shanon and falcon are neo-KKK racists. That's a evident fact for everyone who's been reading your posts about muslims and latinos. It's also evident in your biography[^]. Stop whinning about a particular irrelevant incident, stupid racist. Go dress a white hood and burn crosses with your friends. It is a little less pathetic. Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)

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                        How's Brazil doing? I heard your police force slaughtered over 80 people in the streets the other day. That's probably more than the KKK managed to kill over several decades.

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                          Playing the hard-done-by and oppressed minority card appears to be the norm these days when you can't get what you want by normal means. It strikes me that (with the US in particular) you have millions of uninvited and ILLEGAL guests now clamouring for equal status and all sorts of rights and priviliges that they've done nothing to earn or deserve. If they'd turned up uninvited in your home in the middle of the night by climbing through an unguarded but open window you could have shot them as intruders and been praised for defending your home and family. Isn't the US your home and its legal citizens your family? home
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                          errr check your state laws. In lots of places if you shoot an unarmed intruder without first retreating you will be charged. And then you will also face a lawsuit by the perp or their family. Totally whacked country we live in. Well at least some states are fixing this stupidity

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                            How's Brazil doing? I heard your police force slaughtered over 80 people in the streets the other day. That's probably more than the KKK managed to kill over several decades.

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                            You beat me to it... :) I think I'll google the KKK and see if we can come up with something that approaches a definitive body count...

                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              Cynical and hypocritical bull5hit. You, espier, shanon and falcon are neo-KKK racists. That's a evident fact for everyone who's been reading your posts about muslims and latinos. It's also evident in your biography[^]. Stop whinning about a particular irrelevant incident, stupid racist. Go dress a white hood and burn crosses with your friends. It is a little less pathetic. Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)

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                              Diego Moita wrote:

                              You, espier, shanon and falcon

                              I consider that pretty good company, and we're not racists. We're pissed off Americans. Everytime we get pissed off enough, a bunch of foreigners get there asses kicked. If Brazil would just wait patiently in line, we'll get around to kicking your asses soon enough. Oh wait, you guys are busy killing each other right now...

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                Cynical and hypocritical bull5hit. You, espier, shanon and falcon are neo-KKK racists. That's a evident fact for everyone who's been reading your posts about muslims and latinos. It's also evident in your biography[^]. Stop whinning about a particular irrelevant incident, stupid racist. Go dress a white hood and burn crosses with your friends. It is a little less pathetic. Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)

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                                I see you live in Florianopolis! Great place I have heard. After some years I maybe move there myself. Any advice where I should buy a house there? Prices? jhaga It would be glorious to see mankind at leisure for once. It is nothing but work, work, work. I cannot easily buy a blank-book to write thoughts in; they are commonly ruled for dollars and cents. A[man], seeing me making a minute in the fields, took it for granted that I was calculating my wages. — business! - I think that there is nothing, not even crime, more opposed to poetry, to philosophy, ay, to life itself, than this incessant business. Henry David Thoreau -- modified at 13:30 Thursday 18th May, 2006

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                                  errr check your state laws. In lots of places if you shoot an unarmed intruder without first retreating you will be charged. And then you will also face a lawsuit by the perp or their family. Totally whacked country we live in. Well at least some states are fixing this stupidity

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                                  L_u_r_k_e_r wrote:

                                  errr check your state laws. In lots of places if you shoot an unarmed intruder without first retreating you will be charged.

                                  In Texas you will only have trouble if the dude lives. Shoot his sorry ass and make sure he has expired - make some coffee - call the cops and the newspaper - and relax. You have provided a public service. I assure you that if anyone breaks into my house and if I detect him he will be in a world of trouble. I am not one of those who expouses gun control and own several fire arms capable of making a thiefs day real bad. Remember that old saying: "Its better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6". Richard Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain

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                                    errr check your state laws. In lots of places if you shoot an unarmed intruder without first retreating you will be charged. And then you will also face a lawsuit by the perp or their family. Totally whacked country we live in. Well at least some states are fixing this stupidity

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                                    I think I'd shoot first and get my story straight afterwards: someone comes in my house uninvited and looks like they may want to do some damage then I'd rather face court than risk being buried. Besides, that wasn't really my point: you took what I said too literally. You sure you're not my ex-wife??? :laugh: home
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                                      I see you live in Florianopolis! Great place I have heard. After some years I maybe move there myself. Any advice where I should buy a house there? Prices? jhaga It would be glorious to see mankind at leisure for once. It is nothing but work, work, work. I cannot easily buy a blank-book to write thoughts in; they are commonly ruled for dollars and cents. A[man], seeing me making a minute in the fields, took it for granted that I was calculating my wages. — business! - I think that there is nothing, not even crime, more opposed to poetry, to philosophy, ay, to life itself, than this incessant business. Henry David Thoreau -- modified at 13:30 Thursday 18th May, 2006

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                                      jhaga wrote:

                                      Any advice where I should buy a house there? Prices?

                                      Hmm! It all depends on which kind of beach you like. As you may know the town is in an island so we have more than 50 beaches to choose from, all in the 20 km range. In the west the waves are very small and the beaches are more suitable to families with children. In the east the waves are higher, it's windy, and the beaches are better for sports (surf, body-boarding, sailling, etc). The most expensive areas are in the north and center. The cheapest are in the south. If you want quietness it might be a better idea to find a place in the continent. The town is growing too fast. Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)

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                                        L_u_r_k_e_r wrote:

                                        errr check your state laws. In lots of places if you shoot an unarmed intruder without first retreating you will be charged.

                                        In Texas you will only have trouble if the dude lives. Shoot his sorry ass and make sure he has expired - make some coffee - call the cops and the newspaper - and relax. You have provided a public service. I assure you that if anyone breaks into my house and if I detect him he will be in a world of trouble. I am not one of those who expouses gun control and own several fire arms capable of making a thiefs day real bad. Remember that old saying: "Its better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6". Richard Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain

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                                        Believe me i own several firearms as well. I am also an instructor for my states CCW course. Just making sure some folks check their liabilty 1st before you face economic ruin. Glad my state is correcting the idiocy of being cleared of any criminal act and then the family of crack addict robber suing me for ridding the world of his scum arse for breaking into my house.

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                                          jhaga wrote:

                                          Any advice where I should buy a house there? Prices?

                                          Hmm! It all depends on which kind of beach you like. As you may know the town is in an island so we have more than 50 beaches to choose from, all in the 20 km range. In the west the waves are very small and the beaches are more suitable to families with children. In the east the waves are higher, it's windy, and the beaches are better for sports (surf, body-boarding, sailling, etc). The most expensive areas are in the north and center. The cheapest are in the south. If you want quietness it might be a better idea to find a place in the continent. The town is growing too fast. Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)

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                                          At which beach are you least likely to be murdered?

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