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    Hi All, I am very disturbed on the reservation policy of indian government. They have made all arrangements to ruin the future of bright indians. Time by time they keep on doing such thing. They just do all for their vote bank. First it was V.P. Singh and now this bloody Arjun Singh. I am writting here to get all of your support on this. Please tell me what are the ways to protest governement against this reservation issue. The Reservation Ghost is Back[^] Face the Music - Mandal-II[^] Regards Nitin P.S: Celebrities where are you. Speak against reservation. -- modified at 9:32 Friday 19th May, 2006

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    Nish Nishant
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    So you create a new ID, and make a first post on the CP lounge about reservation in India? :suss: Regards, Nish


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      Hi All, I am very disturbed on the reservation policy of indian government. They have made all arrangements to ruin the future of bright indians. Time by time they keep on doing such thing. They just do all for their vote bank. First it was V.P. Singh and now this bloody Arjun Singh. I am writting here to get all of your support on this. Please tell me what are the ways to protest governement against this reservation issue. The Reservation Ghost is Back[^] Face the Music - Mandal-II[^] Regards Nitin P.S: Celebrities where are you. Speak against reservation. -- modified at 9:32 Friday 19th May, 2006

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      WTF is reservation?

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        WTF is reservation?

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        Marc Clifton
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        roel_ wrote:

        WTF is reservation?

        It's a place where Indians can go to practice Buddhism and live off the gov't dole. ;P Actually, I have no idea, but in the times of Buddha, kings were so impressed that they donated "parks" to his followers Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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          So you create a new ID, and make a first post on the CP lounge about reservation in India? :suss: Regards, Nish


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          pathakr
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          Nish, You should check if from one IP address, only one perticular ID is working. Also I think there should be validation mail to the inbox of the member telling him to validate the membership or people may fake email address and may some innocent person get lot of junk mail (for him) from CP about the postings. pathak

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            roel_ wrote:

            WTF is reservation?

            It's a place where Indians can go to practice Buddhism and live off the gov't dole. ;P Actually, I have no idea, but in the times of Buddha, kings were so impressed that they donated "parks" to his followers Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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            Marc Clifton wrote:

            It's a place where Indians can go to practice Buddhism and live off the gov't dole.

            A great contribution to this weeks Sensitivity Awareness Effort: Political Correct Friday :laugh:

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              WTF is reservation?

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              Nish Nishant
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              roel_ wrote:

              WTF is reservation?

              LOL - good to be able to hit back at you guys. I don't understand 90% of the stuff you guys talk about in the soapbox cause it's mostly about US-politics - and every time I think, "WTF are these guys talking about?" Regards, Nish


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                roel_ wrote:

                WTF is reservation?

                LOL - good to be able to hit back at you guys. I don't understand 90% of the stuff you guys talk about in the soapbox cause it's mostly about US-politics - and every time I think, "WTF are these guys talking about?" Regards, Nish


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                Marc Clifton
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                Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                cause it's mostly about US-politics - and every time I think, "WTF are these guys talking about?"

                Erm... me too! Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                  cause it's mostly about US-politics - and every time I think, "WTF are these guys talking about?"

                  Erm... me too! Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  Erm... me too!

                  :-D Regards, Nish


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                    WTF is reservation?

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                    Graham Shanks
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                    roel_ wrote:

                    WTF is reservation?

                    Is it the "affirmative action" for low castes? Graham

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                      WTF is reservation?

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                      I'll wager it's some means of keeping educated Indians in India, rather than allowing 'em to be shipped overseas. Possibly some sort of cage, or fenced-in grasslands...

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                        I'll wager it's some means of keeping educated Indians in India, rather than allowing 'em to be shipped overseas. Possibly some sort of cage, or fenced-in grasslands...

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                        Shog9 wrote:

                        I'll wager it's some means of keeping educated Indians in India, rather than allowing 'em to be shipped overseas. Possibly some sort of cage, or fenced-in grasslands...

                        :laugh:


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                          I'll wager it's some means of keeping educated Indians in India, rather than allowing 'em to be shipped overseas. Possibly some sort of cage, or fenced-in grasslands...

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                          Actually it's a brute-force (and imho simplistic) method of ensuring that a certain percentage of new admissions to universities are from lesser privileged economic classes. The brute-force approach guarantees admission regardless of the applicants' academic performance, but also prevents other students (with possibly much higher scores) from attending the academic institution. :( /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                            I'll wager it's some means of keeping educated Indians in India, rather than allowing 'em to be shipped overseas. Possibly some sort of cage, or fenced-in grasslands...

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                            Ravi Bhavnani
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                            Actually it's a brute-force (and imho simplistic) method of ensuring that a certain percentage of new admissions to universities are from lesser privileged economic classes. The brute-force approach guarantees admission regardless of the applicants' academic performance, but also prevents other students (with possibly much higher scores) from attending the academic institution. :( /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                              WTF is reservation?

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                              Smitha Nishant
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                              Your probably have heard of the caste system that exists in India. After independence, the Indian government brought in a system of reservation so certain percentage of college admissions and government job vacancies are reserved for people from lower castes [including the tribals]. The aim is the upbringing of the socially and economically backward castes. This is a logically correct move, IMO, since it would be tough for people in economically and socially backward communities to compete against the affluent section, when it comes to academics [and other areas obviously]. The system has been quite effective though it has still not produced the expected results - either due to the misuse of the system or due to the upper caste officials' efforts to hijack the system. A lot of the upper caste people are protesting against it saying that it's taking away their opportunities. While it is true to some extent, what they are ignoring is the fact that the lower caste people were suppressed for centuries. Very often the vacancies in the reservation category are left unfilled because there are not enough eligible candidates [not because there aren't enough lower caste people, in fact they are the majority, but because they are still downtrodden they can't even afford to get elementary education]. There are occasions where the system gets misused where it's the third or fourth generation of the same family which utilises the reservation system [which is not that fair if you come to think about it], and it is because of this minority that a lot of people think the reservation system is an evil. In reality it is not. India still has to go a long way to improve the social conditions of the lower castes. A better and effective implementation of the reservation system is what people should ask for, not a total ban of it. If I am right, forms of reservation exist in North America too. I have heard of financial support provided by the government for the economically backward people, in Canada - which actually is paid by the taxes that they collect from the affluent majority. It's the communist principle of transferring money from the have's to the have-not's. - Smitha Every problem has a gift for you in its hands. -- Richard Bach

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                                WTF is reservation?

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                                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                It's an equivalent of affirmative action in the US.


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                                  Hi All, I am very disturbed on the reservation policy of indian government. They have made all arrangements to ruin the future of bright indians. Time by time they keep on doing such thing. They just do all for their vote bank. First it was V.P. Singh and now this bloody Arjun Singh. I am writting here to get all of your support on this. Please tell me what are the ways to protest governement against this reservation issue. The Reservation Ghost is Back[^] Face the Music - Mandal-II[^] Regards Nitin P.S: Celebrities where are you. Speak against reservation. -- modified at 9:32 Friday 19th May, 2006

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                                  Indians and reservations? It worked for us. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                                    Indians and reservations? It worked for us. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                                    Nish Nishant
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                                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                                    Indians and reservations? It worked for us.

                                    :-D Regards, Nish


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                                      Your probably have heard of the caste system that exists in India. After independence, the Indian government brought in a system of reservation so certain percentage of college admissions and government job vacancies are reserved for people from lower castes [including the tribals]. The aim is the upbringing of the socially and economically backward castes. This is a logically correct move, IMO, since it would be tough for people in economically and socially backward communities to compete against the affluent section, when it comes to academics [and other areas obviously]. The system has been quite effective though it has still not produced the expected results - either due to the misuse of the system or due to the upper caste officials' efforts to hijack the system. A lot of the upper caste people are protesting against it saying that it's taking away their opportunities. While it is true to some extent, what they are ignoring is the fact that the lower caste people were suppressed for centuries. Very often the vacancies in the reservation category are left unfilled because there are not enough eligible candidates [not because there aren't enough lower caste people, in fact they are the majority, but because they are still downtrodden they can't even afford to get elementary education]. There are occasions where the system gets misused where it's the third or fourth generation of the same family which utilises the reservation system [which is not that fair if you come to think about it], and it is because of this minority that a lot of people think the reservation system is an evil. In reality it is not. India still has to go a long way to improve the social conditions of the lower castes. A better and effective implementation of the reservation system is what people should ask for, not a total ban of it. If I am right, forms of reservation exist in North America too. I have heard of financial support provided by the government for the economically backward people, in Canada - which actually is paid by the taxes that they collect from the affluent majority. It's the communist principle of transferring money from the have's to the have-not's. - Smitha Every problem has a gift for you in its hands. -- Richard Bach

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                                      Nish Nishant
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                                      Wow - good points :-) For a long while, I hated the reservation system - I missed out on a lower-fee seat for engineering because a reservation candidate (with a lower score than mine) got it. And I always held that against the system. Years later, I understood its intended purpose and now I am for reservation - but not the way it's implemented now in India. The mechanism needs to be rethought and properly implemented for it to have any practical use. Regards, Nish


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                                        Wow - good points :-) For a long while, I hated the reservation system - I missed out on a lower-fee seat for engineering because a reservation candidate (with a lower score than mine) got it. And I always held that against the system. Years later, I understood its intended purpose and now I am for reservation - but not the way it's implemented now in India. The mechanism needs to be rethought and properly implemented for it to have any practical use. Regards, Nish


                                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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                                        Smitha Nishant
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                                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                        The mechanism needs to be rethought and properly implemented for it to have any practical use.

                                        My point exactly. Cheers Smitha Every problem has a gift for you in its hands. -- Richard Bach

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                                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                          The mechanism needs to be rethought and properly implemented for it to have any practical use.

                                          My point exactly. Cheers Smitha Every problem has a gift for you in its hands. -- Richard Bach

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                                          Get a room, you two :-) Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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