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  • R Rob Manderson

    Steve Echols wrote:

    they haven't updated #2 to "Are you a terrorist

    Extract from the N400 form. I filled this out a couple of months ago; I'm somewhere in the queue! 9. Have you ever been a member of or in any way associated (either directly or indirectly) with: a. The Communist Party? b. Any other totalitarian party? c. A terrorist organization? 10. Have you ever advocated (either directly or indirectly) the overthrow of any government by force or violence? 11. Have you ever persecuted (either directly or indirectly) any person because of race, religion, national origin, membership in a particular social group or political opinion? 12. Between March 23, 1933 and May 8, 1945, did you work for or associate in any way (either directly or indirectly) with: a. The Nazi government of Germany? b. Any government in any area (1) occupied by, (2) allied with, or (3) established with the help of the Nazi government of Germany? c. Any German, Nazi, or S.S. military unit, paramilitary unit, self-defense unit, vigilante unit, citizen unit, police unit, government agency or office, extermination camp, concentration camp, prisoner of war camp, prison, labor camp or transit camp? Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^]

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    Steve Echols
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    Amazing! I guess they covered their (our) bases pretty well. What happens if you answser yes to any of those, do they just laugh and point to the door or implant a tracking device somewhere? :)


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    • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

      Amazing! I guess they covered their (our) bases pretty well. What happens if you answser yes to any of those, do they just laugh and point to the door or implant a tracking device somewhere? :)


      - S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!

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      Steve Echols wrote:

      What happens if you answer yes to any of those

      I'll never know :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^]

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      • R Rob Manderson

        Steve Echols wrote:

        What happens if you answer yes to any of those

        I'll never know :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^]

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        Steve Echols
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        :laugh::laugh: That's good!


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        • A Albert Pascual

          Well, last weekend I went for the big ceremony. 7,000 people got an American Citizenship that day! Was just crazy and long. However was even rush, a wonderful ceremony! I AM AMERICAN. Arriving home I had a great surprise party, felt like the 4th of July!! Finally!! I am American. So on June 6th I can vote for Arnold! Cheers Al My eMail control My Blog

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          Welcome! Now get busy working and get those taxes paid :) Rocky <>< Latest Post: Visual Studio 2005 Standard, whats missing? Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]

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          • R Rob Manderson

            Steve Echols wrote:

            they haven't updated #2 to "Are you a terrorist

            Extract from the N400 form. I filled this out a couple of months ago; I'm somewhere in the queue! 9. Have you ever been a member of or in any way associated (either directly or indirectly) with: a. The Communist Party? b. Any other totalitarian party? c. A terrorist organization? 10. Have you ever advocated (either directly or indirectly) the overthrow of any government by force or violence? 11. Have you ever persecuted (either directly or indirectly) any person because of race, religion, national origin, membership in a particular social group or political opinion? 12. Between March 23, 1933 and May 8, 1945, did you work for or associate in any way (either directly or indirectly) with: a. The Nazi government of Germany? b. Any government in any area (1) occupied by, (2) allied with, or (3) established with the help of the Nazi government of Germany? c. Any German, Nazi, or S.S. military unit, paramilitary unit, self-defense unit, vigilante unit, citizen unit, police unit, government agency or office, extermination camp, concentration camp, prisoner of war camp, prison, labor camp or transit camp? Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^]

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            Albert Pascual
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            Hey Love that form! Good memory! So ... what was your answers? ;P Al My eMail control My Blog

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            • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

              Amazing! I guess they covered their (our) bases pretty well. What happens if you answser yes to any of those, do they just laugh and point to the door or implant a tracking device somewhere? :)


              - S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!

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              Albert Pascual
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              Steve Echols wrote:

              What happens if you answser yes to any of those

              Somebody in a nice tie will be calling you door next day! My biggest question. Did anybody EVER answered YES? Al My eMail control My Blog

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              • A Albert Pascual

                Steve Echols wrote:

                What happens if you answser yes to any of those

                Somebody in a nice tie will be calling you door next day! My biggest question. Did anybody EVER answered YES? Al My eMail control My Blog

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                Albert Pascual wrote:

                Did anybody EVER answered YES?

                We won't know until it's declassified in 3006 (or Oliver Stone or Michael Moore makes a movie about it :laugh:)


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                • A Albert Pascual

                  Hey Love that form! Good memory! So ... what was your answers? ;P Al My eMail control My Blog

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                  Rob Manderson
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                  I *do* want to pass ya know! :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^]

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                  • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

                    Amazing! I guess they covered their (our) bases pretty well. What happens if you answser yes to any of those, do they just laugh and point to the door or implant a tracking device somewhere? :)


                    - S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!

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                    Christian Graus
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                    There's a similar form I need to fill in to visit the country, or at least to avoid having to apply for a visa. I presume no-one will say 'yes', but that the key thing is that lying on that form can be used to throw me out of the country, without having to prove too much else. In other words, it ceases to be a farce when I act in such a way that they want legal means to deport me. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                    • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

                      Albert Pascual wrote:

                      Did anybody EVER answered YES?

                      We won't know until it's declassified in 3006 (or Oliver Stone or Michael Moore makes a movie about it :laugh:)


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                      "Citizenship now Redux"?


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                      • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

                        Albert Pascual wrote:

                        Did anybody EVER answered YES?

                        We won't know until it's declassified in 3006 (or Oliver Stone or Michael Moore makes a movie about it :laugh:)


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                        S Douglas
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                        Steve Echols wrote:

                        or Oliver Stone or Michael Moore makes a movie about it

                        Nah, does matter if real information is availible or not they would still make things up...:~


                        I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                          "Citizenship now Redux"?


                          Some of us walk the memory lane, others plummet into a rabbit hole
                          Tree in C# || Fold With Us! || sighist

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                          Steve Echols
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                          Yes, if it sells more copies! (Maybe I missed your point. I'll counter with THX 1139 - The Final Citizen? :))


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                            Steve Echols wrote:

                            or Oliver Stone or Michael Moore makes a movie about it

                            Nah, does matter if real information is availible or not they would still make things up...:~


                            I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                            Steve Echols
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                            :laugh: Facts, shmacts...it's what sells at the box office thats important!!


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                            • A Albert Pascual

                              Well, last weekend I went for the big ceremony. 7,000 people got an American Citizenship that day! Was just crazy and long. However was even rush, a wonderful ceremony! I AM AMERICAN. Arriving home I had a great surprise party, felt like the 4th of July!! Finally!! I am American. So on June 6th I can vote for Arnold! Cheers Al My eMail control My Blog

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                              Eytukan
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                              Congrats Albert! :beer:


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                              • A Albert Pascual

                                Well, last weekend I went for the big ceremony. 7,000 people got an American Citizenship that day! Was just crazy and long. However was even rush, a wonderful ceremony! I AM AMERICAN. Arriving home I had a great surprise party, felt like the 4th of July!! Finally!! I am American. So on June 6th I can vote for Arnold! Cheers Al My eMail control My Blog

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                                Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                Well done! :rose: Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                                • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

                                  Yes, if it sells more copies! (Maybe I missed your point. I'll counter with THX 1139 - The Final Citizen? :))


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                                  I referred to

                                  Steve Echols wrote:

                                  or Oliver Stone makes a movie about it

                                  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066434/[^] never heard of that before, sounds interesting - thanks! :)


                                  Some of us walk the memory lane, others plummet into a rabbit hole
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                                  • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

                                    :laugh: Facts, shmacts...it's what sells at the box office thats important!!


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                                    Steve Echols wrote:

                                    it's what sells at the box office thats important

                                    :laugh: We all know that Hollywood would NEVER make anything up, its all real. :rolleyes:


                                    I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                                    • A Albert Pascual

                                      Well, last weekend I went for the big ceremony. 7,000 people got an American Citizenship that day! Was just crazy and long. However was even rush, a wonderful ceremony! I AM AMERICAN. Arriving home I had a great surprise party, felt like the 4th of July!! Finally!! I am American. So on June 6th I can vote for Arnold! Cheers Al My eMail control My Blog

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                                      S Douglas
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                                      :beer:


                                      I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                                      • R Rob Manderson

                                        Steve Echols wrote:

                                        they haven't updated #2 to "Are you a terrorist

                                        Extract from the N400 form. I filled this out a couple of months ago; I'm somewhere in the queue! 9. Have you ever been a member of or in any way associated (either directly or indirectly) with: a. The Communist Party? b. Any other totalitarian party? c. A terrorist organization? 10. Have you ever advocated (either directly or indirectly) the overthrow of any government by force or violence? 11. Have you ever persecuted (either directly or indirectly) any person because of race, religion, national origin, membership in a particular social group or political opinion? 12. Between March 23, 1933 and May 8, 1945, did you work for or associate in any way (either directly or indirectly) with: a. The Nazi government of Germany? b. Any government in any area (1) occupied by, (2) allied with, or (3) established with the help of the Nazi government of Germany? c. Any German, Nazi, or S.S. military unit, paramilitary unit, self-defense unit, vigilante unit, citizen unit, police unit, government agency or office, extermination camp, concentration camp, prisoner of war camp, prison, labor camp or transit camp? Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^]

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                                        Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer
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                                        Rob Manderson wrote:

                                        10. Have you ever advocated (either directly or indirectly) the overthrow of any government by force or violence?

                                        I know I'm verging awfully close to soapbox material, but saying Yes to this shouldn't disqualify you - its called "Regime Change", and has been explicit US / UK policy! Admittedly, they did say "Please" first... Iain.

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                                        • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

                                          Amazing! I guess they covered their (our) bases pretty well. What happens if you answser yes to any of those, do they just laugh and point to the door or implant a tracking device somewhere? :)


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                                          El Corazon
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                                          Steve Echols wrote:

                                          What happens if you answser yes to any of those, do they just laugh and point to the door or implant a tracking device somewhere?

                                          They turn down the application for further investigation.... _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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