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  • A Anthony Queen

    I'm wondering if the weighted voting system is such a good idea. I wrote my first article a couple of days ago. after 5 votes, it had a rating of 4/5. Then, 2 votes later, it is down to 2.67/5 That tells me I'm getting a few 1's Is it really that bad of an article? What can I do to improve it. I'm getting votes, but no feedback. Thanks, Tony The article is at: http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/PanExample.asp -- modified at 12:01 Wednesday 24th May, 2006

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    J4amieC
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    Not sure if its anything you've done, or whether maybe its the cause of some of your lower votes, but I have to horizontally scroll to see all the text. Current blacklist svmilky - Extremely rude | FeRtoll - Rude personal emails | ironstrike1 - Rude & Obnoxious behaviour

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      Not sure if its anything you've done, or whether maybe its the cause of some of your lower votes, but I have to horizontally scroll to see all the text. Current blacklist svmilky - Extremely rude | FeRtoll - Rude personal emails | ironstrike1 - Rude & Obnoxious behaviour

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      Anthony Queen
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      Ahh, ok. I have a large monitor so I hadn't noticed. I'll make the change. Thanks!

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      • A Anthony Queen

        I'm wondering if the weighted voting system is such a good idea. I wrote my first article a couple of days ago. after 5 votes, it had a rating of 4/5. Then, 2 votes later, it is down to 2.67/5 That tells me I'm getting a few 1's Is it really that bad of an article? What can I do to improve it. I'm getting votes, but no feedback. Thanks, Tony The article is at: http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/PanExample.asp -- modified at 12:01 Wednesday 24th May, 2006

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        Nish Nishant
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        One reason for bad ratings may be that the article scrolls horizontally, as the code snippets in the PRE tags are too wide. You need to restrict them to about 600 pixels, so people on 800x600 resolutions can view the article conveniently. Smitha or one of the editors will fix it during the editing/formatting stage, but it'd be better if the author could do that on his/her own. Regards, Nish


        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
        Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications.

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        • J J4amieC

          Not sure if its anything you've done, or whether maybe its the cause of some of your lower votes, but I have to horizontally scroll to see all the text. Current blacklist svmilky - Extremely rude | FeRtoll - Rude personal emails | ironstrike1 - Rude & Obnoxious behaviour

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          Nish Nishant
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          J4amieC wrote:

          Not sure if its anything you've done, or whether maybe its the cause of some of your lower votes, but I have to horizontally scroll to see all the text.

          Damn, you beat me to it :-( Regards, Nish


          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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          • A Anthony Queen

            Ahh, ok. I have a large monitor so I hadn't noticed. I'll make the change. Thanks!

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            Michael A Barnhart
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            I would have the same comment. Yes I have a 19 flat panel but my 50+ eyes do not like the small text so run it at 1024. "Every new day begins with possibilities. It's up to us to fill it with things that move us toward progress and peace.” (Ronald Reagan)

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            • A Anthony Queen

              I'm wondering if the weighted voting system is such a good idea. I wrote my first article a couple of days ago. after 5 votes, it had a rating of 4/5. Then, 2 votes later, it is down to 2.67/5 That tells me I'm getting a few 1's Is it really that bad of an article? What can I do to improve it. I'm getting votes, but no feedback. Thanks, Tony The article is at: http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/PanExample.asp -- modified at 12:01 Wednesday 24th May, 2006

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              Anthony Queen wrote:

              I wrote my first article a couple of days ago.

              congrats for going this far! There are days I wish I could write an article, so you have still one above me. If it were me I would have written it in a different style, I don't have the time right now to actually try the methods and see if it can be done. If you have someone else locally who you trust the opinion of, buy them a six-pack (soda, tea, or "other" favorite drink) and ask them to reproduce the result from the directions. Basically you will here jokes here about the two camps, and I think you are getting votes from both camps Camp 1: You should be able to reproduce the source code from the article itself without downloading the zip file. This guarentees a complete explanation of the process even if it includes points on the Visual designer, which yours does, the result should be a complete working example. The code attached is simply proof you did it right. This is akin to a tutorial style, you are teaching how to do something. And the type I generally prefer. Camp 2: The article should be concise, only highlight the "technique" and someone should download and use the code-as-is for everything else. There is also a Camp 3, ignore the article download the code and it should fix your network, brush your teeth, and fill up your car with gasoline, but that would be nit-picking... ;) I can't do more than a cursory glance now, all my issues are in style not in content because I can't check the content at the moment. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                Not sure if its anything you've done, or whether maybe its the cause of some of your lower votes, but I have to horizontally scroll to see all the text. Current blacklist svmilky - Extremely rude | FeRtoll - Rude personal emails | ironstrike1 - Rude & Obnoxious behaviour

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                Anthony Queen
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                Scrolling should be fixed now. Thanks for the input!

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                  Anthony Queen wrote:

                  I wrote my first article a couple of days ago.

                  congrats for going this far! There are days I wish I could write an article, so you have still one above me. If it were me I would have written it in a different style, I don't have the time right now to actually try the methods and see if it can be done. If you have someone else locally who you trust the opinion of, buy them a six-pack (soda, tea, or "other" favorite drink) and ask them to reproduce the result from the directions. Basically you will here jokes here about the two camps, and I think you are getting votes from both camps Camp 1: You should be able to reproduce the source code from the article itself without downloading the zip file. This guarentees a complete explanation of the process even if it includes points on the Visual designer, which yours does, the result should be a complete working example. The code attached is simply proof you did it right. This is akin to a tutorial style, you are teaching how to do something. And the type I generally prefer. Camp 2: The article should be concise, only highlight the "technique" and someone should download and use the code-as-is for everything else. There is also a Camp 3, ignore the article download the code and it should fix your network, brush your teeth, and fill up your car with gasoline, but that would be nit-picking... ;) I can't do more than a cursory glance now, all my issues are in style not in content because I can't check the content at the moment. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                  Anthony Queen
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                  Thanks! I appreciate the insight to the "Camps". Hopefully, both camps are happy.

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                  • A Anthony Queen

                    I'm wondering if the weighted voting system is such a good idea. I wrote my first article a couple of days ago. after 5 votes, it had a rating of 4/5. Then, 2 votes later, it is down to 2.67/5 That tells me I'm getting a few 1's Is it really that bad of an article? What can I do to improve it. I'm getting votes, but no feedback. Thanks, Tony The article is at: http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/PanExample.asp -- modified at 12:01 Wednesday 24th May, 2006

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                    • M Michael A Barnhart

                      I would have the same comment. Yes I have a 19 flat panel but my 50+ eyes do not like the small text so run it at 1024. "Every new day begins with possibilities. It's up to us to fill it with things that move us toward progress and peace.” (Ronald Reagan)

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                      Michael A. Barnhart wrote:

                      my 50+ eyes

                      :omg: Are you an insect? I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist... :-O Paul

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                      • A Anthony Queen

                        I'm wondering if the weighted voting system is such a good idea. I wrote my first article a couple of days ago. after 5 votes, it had a rating of 4/5. Then, 2 votes later, it is down to 2.67/5 That tells me I'm getting a few 1's Is it really that bad of an article? What can I do to improve it. I'm getting votes, but no feedback. Thanks, Tony The article is at: http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/PanExample.asp -- modified at 12:01 Wednesday 24th May, 2006

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                        Anthony Queen wrote:

                        I'm wondering if the weighted voting system is such a good idea.

                        Weighted voting is a very good idea. I wondered about it at first, but I makes very good sense to me now. A new person who, as a group, are usually but not necessarily not very good coders cannot vote up a poor article. The voting system allows the actual value of the article to come out by allowing better coders to have more influence.

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                        • A Anthony Queen

                          I'm wondering if the weighted voting system is such a good idea. I wrote my first article a couple of days ago. after 5 votes, it had a rating of 4/5. Then, 2 votes later, it is down to 2.67/5 That tells me I'm getting a few 1's Is it really that bad of an article? What can I do to improve it. I'm getting votes, but no feedback. Thanks, Tony The article is at: http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/PanExample.asp -- modified at 12:01 Wednesday 24th May, 2006

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                          Voting isn't fair. It work fairly well on the long term, but the results of the first few votes can be frustrating. But don't let numebrs get you down. Maybe someone thougth your solution was to simple. Maybe someone didn't like the picture, or maybe someone hit "1" when s/he wanted to hit "5". (Votes are weighted by membership level, so it's not necessarily "a couple of" 1 votes) You've taken care to make the article convenient to read (thanks!) and you took the step to publish it (congratulations!). It doesn't have a lot of meat, though, which I don't think is important for an article (but seems to be important for good votes :) ) Anyway, it's good that you did post it. And I hope it's not your last one! P.S. My unofficial CP FAQ[^] has some notes what may attract bad votes.


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                          Tree in C# || Fold With Us! || sighist -- modified at 14:26 Wednesday 24th May, 2006

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                            Michael A. Barnhart wrote:

                            my 50+ eyes

                            :omg: Are you an insect? I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist... :-O Paul

                            Where are you?[^]
                            How much time is left?[^]

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                            Paul van der Walt wrote:

                            Are you an insect?

                            :laugh::laugh::laugh: Jeremy Falcon

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                              Michael A. Barnhart wrote:

                              my 50+ eyes

                              :omg: Are you an insect? I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist... :-O Paul

                              Where are you?[^]
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                              Michael A Barnhart
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                              Paul van der Walt wrote:

                              Are you an insect?

                              I compliment you on the observation. That really does answer a lot of questions about my opinions being valued by some slugs and snakes. A 5 by the way.

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                              • A Anthony Queen

                                I'm wondering if the weighted voting system is such a good idea. I wrote my first article a couple of days ago. after 5 votes, it had a rating of 4/5. Then, 2 votes later, it is down to 2.67/5 That tells me I'm getting a few 1's Is it really that bad of an article? What can I do to improve it. I'm getting votes, but no feedback. Thanks, Tony The article is at: http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/PanExample.asp -- modified at 12:01 Wednesday 24th May, 2006

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                                Albert Pascual
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                                Maybe you are getting so many 1s because is in VB ;P Al Note to VB "programmers": Just a joke! My eMail control My Blog

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                                  Voting isn't fair. It work fairly well on the long term, but the results of the first few votes can be frustrating. But don't let numebrs get you down. Maybe someone thougth your solution was to simple. Maybe someone didn't like the picture, or maybe someone hit "1" when s/he wanted to hit "5". (Votes are weighted by membership level, so it's not necessarily "a couple of" 1 votes) You've taken care to make the article convenient to read (thanks!) and you took the step to publish it (congratulations!). It doesn't have a lot of meat, though, which I don't think is important for an article (but seems to be important for good votes :) ) Anyway, it's good that you did post it. And I hope it's not your last one! P.S. My unofficial CP FAQ[^] has some notes what may attract bad votes.


                                  Some of us walk the memory lane, others plummet into a rabbit hole
                                  Tree in C# || Fold With Us! || sighist -- modified at 14:26 Wednesday 24th May, 2006

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                                  peterchen wrote:

                                  maybe someone hit "1" when s/he wanted to hit "5".

                                  Maybe this would be better:

                                  Rate this message: (poor)1 2 3 4 5(good)

                                  than the one we see currently:

                                  Rate this message: 1 2 3 4 5 (out of 5)


                                  Maxwell Chen

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                                    Michael A. Barnhart wrote:

                                    my 50+ eyes

                                    :omg: Are you an insect? I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist... :-O Paul

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                                    :laugh::laugh::laugh: Never send a human to do a machine's job Agent Smith

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                                    • A Anthony Queen

                                      I'm wondering if the weighted voting system is such a good idea. I wrote my first article a couple of days ago. after 5 votes, it had a rating of 4/5. Then, 2 votes later, it is down to 2.67/5 That tells me I'm getting a few 1's Is it really that bad of an article? What can I do to improve it. I'm getting votes, but no feedback. Thanks, Tony The article is at: http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/PanExample.asp -- modified at 12:01 Wednesday 24th May, 2006

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                                      Well, besides the h-scrolling problem a couple other people mentioned (which I didn't notice with a 1440x900 monitor), I was struck by the fact that you're not doing any range checking on setting the AutoScrollPosition. I'm not sure you need to, but still... And the whole issue of multiplying by -1: you chose "e.X - m_PanStartPoint.X" rather than "m_PanStartPoint.X - e.X", so you could have eliminated one multiple by -1. The other one, -1*X + DeltaX, well, that's just DeltaX-X. And finally, it's a bit simplistic, some people probably think it's a bit too simplistic. Me, I think it's an excellent first article for getting your feet wet, and you deserve congrats on that alone. So, that's my 2c. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                                        Well, besides the h-scrolling problem a couple other people mentioned (which I didn't notice with a 1440x900 monitor), I was struck by the fact that you're not doing any range checking on setting the AutoScrollPosition. I'm not sure you need to, but still... And the whole issue of multiplying by -1: you chose "e.X - m_PanStartPoint.X" rather than "m_PanStartPoint.X - e.X", so you could have eliminated one multiple by -1. The other one, -1*X + DeltaX, well, that's just DeltaX-X. And finally, it's a bit simplistic, some people probably think it's a bit too simplistic. Me, I think it's an excellent first article for getting your feet wet, and you deserve congrats on that alone. So, that's my 2c. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                                        Anthony Queen
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                                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                                        Me, I think it's an excellent first article for getting your feet wet, and you deserve congrats on that alone.

                                        Thanks! I do appreciate it, and it won't be my last. ;)

                                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                                        And the whole issue of multiplying by -1: you chose "e.X - m_PanStartPoint.X" rather than "m_PanStartPoint.X - e.X", so you could have eliminated one multiple by -1. The other one, -1*X + DeltaX, well, that's just DeltaX-X.

                                        Very true. I didn't simplify it. The way you have it is much cleaner.

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                                        And finally, it's a bit simplistic, some people probably think it's a bit too simplistic.

                                        It is very simple and covers a very specific point. However, I've seen A LOT of people just simply move the location of the picturebox around in a panel and call it panning. I figured this might help a new developer get started with this type of functionality someday, especially someone unfamiliar with scroll bars. As for range checking, well, there are a lot of things you would want to do if you were putting this in a production application. I just wanted to keep the article simple and concise. Please don't think I took any offense. Just thought I would share my intentions. I do appreciate your feedback and will keep it in mind for my next article. Thanks again, Tony

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                                        • M Michael A Barnhart

                                          I would have the same comment. Yes I have a 19 flat panel but my 50+ eyes do not like the small text so run it at 1024. "Every new day begins with possibilities. It's up to us to fill it with things that move us toward progress and peace.” (Ronald Reagan)

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                                          interesting. I'm getting up there in age too but I run my monitors at 2048x1534x32 and see it just fine. Most of th eprogrammers I know run really high resolution as well.

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