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How did homeless people become homeless?

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    Link2600
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    How did homeless people become homeless? I really don't understand, can't they at least work at burger king or MacDonlds?

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      How did homeless people become homeless? I really don't understand, can't they at least work at burger king or MacDonlds?

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      Red Stateler
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      BK and McDonald's won't hire drunks and drug addicts who recently left loony bins.

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        How did homeless people become homeless? I really don't understand, can't they at least work at burger king or MacDonlds?

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        Nish Nishant
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        Link2006 wrote:

        I really don't understand, can't they at least work at burger king or MacDonlds?

        I seriously doubt whether that'd pay enough for them to afford a house of their own! :-) Regards, Nish


        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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          How did homeless people become homeless? I really don't understand, can't they at least work at burger king or MacDonlds?

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          Michael P Butler
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          Link2006 wrote:

          How did homeless people become homeless?

          There are hundreds of reasons, a good starting point to read is here[^]

          Link2006 wrote:

          I really don't understand, can't they at least work at burger king or MacDonlds?

          It is very hard to get a job, if you don't have an address. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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            Link2006 wrote:

            How did homeless people become homeless?

            There are hundreds of reasons, a good starting point to read is here[^]

            Link2006 wrote:

            I really don't understand, can't they at least work at burger king or MacDonlds?

            It is very hard to get a job, if you don't have an address. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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            Michael P Butler wrote:

            It is very hard to get a job, if you don't have an address.

            ...and vice versa most likely :| Paul

            Where are you?[^]
            How much time is left?[^]

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              How did homeless people become homeless? I really don't understand, can't they at least work at burger king or MacDonlds?

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              some choose for it, some might be illegal and can't get a job, others 'wandered' in and can't get out anymore. (Would you hire a smelly, unwashed man or woman?) Coulda, woulda, shoulda doesn't matter if you don't. :beer:
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                How did homeless people become homeless? I really don't understand, can't they at least work at burger king or MacDonlds?

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                code frog 0
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                In many cases you have a good question. In many cases there is just *so* much more to it. You obviously haven't considered that many choose to be homeless and in talking with some of them there reasons are compelling.


                If we all used the Plain English compiler every post in the lounge would be a programming question.:cool:
                Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.

                People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used CPhog. The act of using CPhog alone doesn't make Firefox cool. It opens your eyes to the possibilities and then you start looking for other things like CPhog and your eyes are suddenly open to all sorts of useful things all through Firefox. - (Self Quote)

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                  How did homeless people become homeless? I really don't understand, can't they at least work at burger king or MacDonlds?

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                  Chris Byrne
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                  for your sake, I hope you never have to find out... small minds

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                    Link2006 wrote:

                    I really don't understand, can't they at least work at burger king or MacDonlds?

                    I seriously doubt whether that'd pay enough for them to afford a house of their own! :-) Regards, Nish


                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                    Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications.

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                    Sure they would. Suppose they pay $6/hr (I think it varies by location) and suppose he works 2 jobs that totals 12 hours/day for 6 days/week. That's $1728/month. Consider that you're supposed to pay a max of 33% of your pay on your home, he would be able to afford a $576 apartment. Where I live you can't get much for that, but if he got a roommate, he could live comfortably in a 2 bedroom apartment.

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                      BK and McDonald's won't hire drunks and drug addicts who recently left loony bins.

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                      Paul Brower
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                      :-D:-D

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                        In many cases you have a good question. In many cases there is just *so* much more to it. You obviously haven't considered that many choose to be homeless and in talking with some of them there reasons are compelling.


                        If we all used the Plain English compiler every post in the lounge would be a programming question.:cool:
                        Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.

                        People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used CPhog. The act of using CPhog alone doesn't make Firefox cool. It opens your eyes to the possibilities and then you start looking for other things like CPhog and your eyes are suddenly open to all sorts of useful things all through Firefox. - (Self Quote)

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                        code-frog wrote:

                        You obviously haven't considered that many choose to be homeless and in talking with some of them there reasons are compelling.

                        You've talked to them? :omg:

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                          BK and McDonald's won't hire drunks and drug addicts who recently left loony bins.

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                          Ray Cassick
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                          Obviously you have not frequented the McDs around my house :)


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                            code-frog wrote:

                            You obviously haven't considered that many choose to be homeless and in talking with some of them there reasons are compelling.

                            You've talked to them? :omg:

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                            Andy Brummer
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                            I hope you were trying to be funny, but that is really in poor taste, even by my standards.


                            I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon

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                              Obviously you have not frequented the McDs around my house :)


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                              Andy Brummer
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                              :laugh:


                              I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon

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                                Sure they would. Suppose they pay $6/hr (I think it varies by location) and suppose he works 2 jobs that totals 12 hours/day for 6 days/week. That's $1728/month. Consider that you're supposed to pay a max of 33% of your pay on your home, he would be able to afford a $576 apartment. Where I live you can't get much for that, but if he got a roommate, he could live comfortably in a 2 bedroom apartment.

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                                Wjousts
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                                Of course you don't include other bills that come with a home, like heating, water and the need to buy food. Also how many landlords do you know who'd give an apartment to a homeless person without a large security deposit and a months rent up front. The need to scrap up an up front deposit is a significant barrier if you don't have a penny. But thanks for caring...

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                                  How did homeless people become homeless? I really don't understand, can't they at least work at burger king or MacDonlds?

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                                  Christian Graus
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                                  addiction, mental illness, there are all sorts of reasons. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                                    Sure they would. Suppose they pay $6/hr (I think it varies by location) and suppose he works 2 jobs that totals 12 hours/day for 6 days/week. That's $1728/month. Consider that you're supposed to pay a max of 33% of your pay on your home, he would be able to afford a $576 apartment. Where I live you can't get much for that, but if he got a roommate, he could live comfortably in a 2 bedroom apartment.

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                                    espeir wrote:

                                    12 hours/day for 6 days/week.

                                    While possible, I honestly think that's asking a bit much of a person on a continuous basis. Where is the time work on elevating oneself out of that situation, like attending training classes, doing homework, etc.? On the 7th day? Well, like I said, possible but not likely for a long time. You're also not factoring in the time to get to the other job. And also, is McD's going to hire fulltime workers? Probably not. Then they have to pay health insurance, or a part of it. So what you're really talking about is 3 part time jobs. No health insurance, and frankly, public transportation (I'm assuming your hypothetical homeless person can't afford a car, insurance, gas, licensing, registration) isn't that cheap anymore.

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                                    That's $1728/month

                                    That's BEFORE taxes. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                                      I hope you were trying to be funny, but that is really in poor taste, even by my standards.


                                      I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon

                                      -- modified at 17:21 Wednesday 24th May, 2006

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                                      Paul Conrad
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                                      Andy Brummer wrote:

                                      that is really in poor taste

                                      I agree, the post by Link2006 was pretty low.

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                                        espeir wrote:

                                        12 hours/day for 6 days/week.

                                        While possible, I honestly think that's asking a bit much of a person on a continuous basis. Where is the time work on elevating oneself out of that situation, like attending training classes, doing homework, etc.? On the 7th day? Well, like I said, possible but not likely for a long time. You're also not factoring in the time to get to the other job. And also, is McD's going to hire fulltime workers? Probably not. Then they have to pay health insurance, or a part of it. So what you're really talking about is 3 part time jobs. No health insurance, and frankly, public transportation (I'm assuming your hypothetical homeless person can't afford a car, insurance, gas, licensing, registration) isn't that cheap anymore.

                                        espeir wrote:

                                        That's $1728/month

                                        That's BEFORE taxes. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                                        Paul Conrad
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                                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                                        health insurance

                                        That is if the McJob even offers health insurance. Paul

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                                          How did homeless people become homeless? I really don't understand, can't they at least work at burger king or MacDonlds?

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                                          Marc Clifton
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                                          Link2006 wrote:

                                          How did homeless people become homeless?

                                          By spending all their time surfing CP. ;P Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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