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  • N Nish Nishant

    Paul Watson wrote:

    hehe, good joke Nish :)

    Does that mean you don't think Atlas would succeed?

    Regards, Nish


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    Paul Watson
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    Oh it is OK for those doing ASP.NET websites as the client-server integration and controls are nifty but it is too heavy and overengineered for other backends. Dojo or Prototype are a lot better for that. Atlas also needs to get away from the whole "look how easy it is, drag and drop" tutorials. No web-dev with an ounce of professionalism uses drag-and-drop to code their sites. Just like you don't use D&D for your C++ apps. regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

    Shog9 wrote:

    eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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      OK, OK. Ajax it is then... :P regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

      Shog9 wrote:

      eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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      Douglas Troy
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      Sorry Paul, that's also already taken see here[^] :rolleyes:


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        Sorry Paul, that's also already taken see here[^] :rolleyes:


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        Paul Watson
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        And the football team and the town in the States :-D regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

        Shog9 wrote:

        eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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          Oh it is OK for those doing ASP.NET websites as the client-server integration and controls are nifty but it is too heavy and overengineered for other backends. Dojo or Prototype are a lot better for that. Atlas also needs to get away from the whole "look how easy it is, drag and drop" tutorials. No web-dev with an ounce of professionalism uses drag-and-drop to code their sites. Just like you don't use D&D for your C++ apps. regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

          Shog9 wrote:

          eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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          Nish Nishant
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          Thanks. I don't really know much about Atlas or Ajax - that's why I asked. I didn't realize Atlas was a heavy framework. Regards, Nish


          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
          Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications.

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            Oh it is OK for those doing ASP.NET websites as the client-server integration and controls are nifty but it is too heavy and overengineered for other backends. Dojo or Prototype are a lot better for that. Atlas also needs to get away from the whole "look how easy it is, drag and drop" tutorials. No web-dev with an ounce of professionalism uses drag-and-drop to code their sites. Just like you don't use D&D for your C++ apps. regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

            Shog9 wrote:

            eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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            Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer
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            Paul Watson wrote:

            Just like you don't use D&D for your C++ apps.

            I sooooo misread D&D then... Where's my d8 when I need it! Iain.

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              And the football team and the town in the States :-D regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

              Shog9 wrote:

              eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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              Michael P Butler
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              Paul Watson wrote:

              And the football team

              How well did the Barcelona line in your power-point go down? I thought the Irish were big Arsenal fans. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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              • I Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer

                Paul Watson wrote:

                Just like you don't use D&D for your C++ apps.

                I sooooo misread D&D then... Where's my d8 when I need it! Iain.

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                Nish Nishant
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                Iain Clarke wrote:

                I sooooo misread D&D then... Where's my d8 when I need it!

                I didn't get that :( Regards, Nish


                Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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                  Paul Watson wrote:

                  And the football team

                  How well did the Barcelona line in your power-point go down? I thought the Irish were big Arsenal fans. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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                  Paul Watson
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                  hehe not too well :-D Couple of boos and some stony silence. Thankfully my girlfriend is a Barcelona fan so she didn't kill me. regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                  Shog9 wrote:

                  eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                    Iain Clarke wrote:

                    I sooooo misread D&D then... Where's my d8 when I need it!

                    I didn't get that :( Regards, Nish


                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                    Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications.

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                    Paul Watson
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                    d8 is the dice used in Dungeons and Dragons :) regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                    Shog9 wrote:

                    eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                    • C Chris Losinger

                      if that's where the phrase originated, it seems reasonable. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                      Paul Watson
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                      You don't think the phrase is a bit too unoriginal to trade/service/sign mark? It's not like LinuxWorld or Microsoft. regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                      Shog9 wrote:

                      eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        Iain Clarke wrote:

                        I sooooo misread D&D then... Where's my d8 when I need it!

                        I didn't get that :( Regards, Nish


                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                        Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications.

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                        Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer
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                        Sorry, I was still in my own semi-real world when I wrote that.... D&D = Dungeons And Dragons, a role playing game, and d8 = 8 sided die. Normal dice are d6's. Also, d4, d6, d8, d10, d20, d% (2x d10s), and last but not least - d2, a coin. Don't worry about not getting that - I was just being amused at my inner geek. Due to unpredictable work commitments, I haven't played in almost a decade... Iain.

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                          Yes indeedy - O'Reilly has trademarked "Web 2.0"[^] :wtf: '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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                          Marc Clifton
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                          That's alright. I just read an article yesterday, they're already talking about Web 3.0. Quick! Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                            You don't think the phrase is a bit too unoriginal to trade/service/sign mark? It's not like LinuxWorld or Microsoft. regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                            Shog9 wrote:

                            eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                            Chris Losinger
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                            if MS can get one for "Windows"... Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                              if MS can get one for "Windows"... Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                              Paul Watson
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                              hmm true in a sense but it isn't a composite like Web 2.0 is. There is no chance they can get Web or 2.0 as marks and the combination is dubious at best. regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

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                              eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                              • I Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer

                                Sorry, I was still in my own semi-real world when I wrote that.... D&D = Dungeons And Dragons, a role playing game, and d8 = 8 sided die. Normal dice are d6's. Also, d4, d6, d8, d10, d20, d% (2x d10s), and last but not least - d2, a coin. Don't worry about not getting that - I was just being amused at my inner geek. Due to unpredictable work commitments, I haven't played in almost a decade... Iain.

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                                Nish Nishant
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                                Ah, thanks Iain. Regards, Nish


                                Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications.

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                                  d8 is the dice used in Dungeons and Dragons :) regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                                  Shog9 wrote:

                                  eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                  Nish Nishant
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                                  Paul Watson wrote:

                                  d8 is the dice used in Dungeons and Dragons

                                  Oh okay, and I've never heard of Dungeons and Dragons either - am guessing it's a computer game or a TV show. Regards, Nish


                                  Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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                                    hmm true in a sense but it isn't a composite like Web 2.0 is. There is no chance they can get Web or 2.0 as marks and the combination is dubious at best. regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                                    Shog9 wrote:

                                    eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                    Chris Losinger
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                                    where did phrase "Web 2.0" originate ? Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                                      Paul Watson wrote:

                                      d8 is the dice used in Dungeons and Dragons

                                      Oh okay, and I've never heard of Dungeons and Dragons either - am guessing it's a computer game or a TV show. Regards, Nish


                                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications.

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                                      Paul Watson
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                                      Dungeons and Dragons according to Wikipedia[^] and the official page.[^] It most definitley is not a TV thing. It is a role playing board game system. Very cool if a bit... uhh... geeky. regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                                      Shog9 wrote:

                                      eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                        where did phrase "Web 2.0" originate ? Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                                        Paul Watson
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                                        With O'Reilly but surely that is not the only basis for marks. regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          Good. So can we all stop calling it Web 2.0 now? cheers, Chris Maunder

                                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                          Shaun Wilde
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                                          how about Web 2.1 - must be due for a minor revision release by now. And it'll be wonderful once we get to version 3.0 - or 3.1, 3.11 then we could have the 95 and 98 editions - strange feeling of deja vu - never mind I am sure it'll go away.

                                          I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it. - pTerry
                                          www.many-monkeys.com

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