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    Gaul
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    What is your best advice on how to get a steady stream of projects if one prefers to work at home. Any sites you can recommend? I have worked as an independent for years now, and enjoy the independence, but the hardest part is how the get the next project after the current one is done. What have you found to be the most effective? Any specific sites, adverts, suggestions would be welcomed. I currently live outside the USA, and have very talented staff, but need to find a way to keep myself and my staff busy. We would gladly travel for projects, and have no problems with visas to the USA or most European cities. I used to live in the USA. Gaul -- modified at 13:40 Sunday 28th May, 2006

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      What is your best advice on how to get a steady stream of projects if one prefers to work at home. Any sites you can recommend? I have worked as an independent for years now, and enjoy the independence, but the hardest part is how the get the next project after the current one is done. What have you found to be the most effective? Any specific sites, adverts, suggestions would be welcomed. I currently live outside the USA, and have very talented staff, but need to find a way to keep myself and my staff busy. We would gladly travel for projects, and have no problems with visas to the USA or most European cities. I used to live in the USA. Gaul -- modified at 13:40 Sunday 28th May, 2006

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      Gaul wrote:

      but the hardest part is how the get the next project after the current one is done.

      You should never go into 110% work mode. Always reserve time for getting that next project while working on the current one. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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        What is your best advice on how to get a steady stream of projects if one prefers to work at home. Any sites you can recommend? I have worked as an independent for years now, and enjoy the independence, but the hardest part is how the get the next project after the current one is done. What have you found to be the most effective? Any specific sites, adverts, suggestions would be welcomed. I currently live outside the USA, and have very talented staff, but need to find a way to keep myself and my staff busy. We would gladly travel for projects, and have no problems with visas to the USA or most European cities. I used to live in the USA. Gaul -- modified at 13:40 Sunday 28th May, 2006

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        I work entirely from home, but I've built up my work by getting regular jobs while holding a day job, and only recently got enough regular clients that I don't need to look for work, I just do the work I have. Sites like rentacoder mean that people who are bidding on offshore work are competing with low paid indians and russians, I'd hate to be in that position all the time. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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          I work entirely from home, but I've built up my work by getting regular jobs while holding a day job, and only recently got enough regular clients that I don't need to look for work, I just do the work I have. Sites like rentacoder mean that people who are bidding on offshore work are competing with low paid indians and russians, I'd hate to be in that position all the time. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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          Christian Graus wrote:

          bidding on offshore work are competing with low paid indians and russians

          One quick question, since you work on projects remotely as "the above" would, what is the justification for the the larger contract price for the work performed here instead of there? That is, what is the deciding factor with your clients that make them choose to pay more for development here in the USA instead of offshore? The ones that come to mind are: * Same lanaguage * Somewhat same schedule (time of day) * You can easily be held accountable legally if something goes wrong Others? I mean, if you have a developer here (USA) and one offshore with the same exact skill set and history of work, why would someone pay 300% or more for the same work? Rocky <>< Latest Post: Visual Studio 2005 Standard, whats missing? Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            bidding on offshore work are competing with low paid indians and russians

            One quick question, since you work on projects remotely as "the above" would, what is the justification for the the larger contract price for the work performed here instead of there? That is, what is the deciding factor with your clients that make them choose to pay more for development here in the USA instead of offshore? The ones that come to mind are: * Same lanaguage * Somewhat same schedule (time of day) * You can easily be held accountable legally if something goes wrong Others? I mean, if you have a developer here (USA) and one offshore with the same exact skill set and history of work, why would someone pay 300% or more for the same work? Rocky <>< Latest Post: Visual Studio 2005 Standard, whats missing? Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]

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            Well, I'm not in the USA as it happens, I'm in Australia :-) The fact that I talk to Nish for an hour in the morning then work while he goes home actually is a good thing, if there's a problem and he hears of it at the end of the day, it's the start of mine. Language is a biggie, as a developer myself, I'd happily manage some people in India on a project, if I was not a coder, I can't imagine how easily it would turn into a nightmare. Legality is another, an Indian NDA probably doesn't mean much. However, in my case, the core deciding factor is Code Project. I got the job here largely as a known entity, that is, I doubt if some stranger on the other side of the world wrote to Chris, he'd get a job offer, at least not straight away. Distance is meaningless between people who already know each other. For every other job, it's been people who find my image processing articles and write to me directly for help, and end up offering me work. If I didn't have my image processing articles, then none of this would have happened ( well, possibly the CP job, but probably not because I would not have been thinking along those lines ). Most of my work has been in image processing, where it's harder to find people and so people have been glad just to find me ( I've done jobs for $5000 and found out the other quote they got from a firm that does this sort of work was $100k+ ). If you were hiring people to do standard winforms work, then yeah, I can't see any reason beyond legal ones to hire someone in the US over someone in India, assuming you can keep the project management side under control. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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              Well, I'm not in the USA as it happens, I'm in Australia :-) The fact that I talk to Nish for an hour in the morning then work while he goes home actually is a good thing, if there's a problem and he hears of it at the end of the day, it's the start of mine. Language is a biggie, as a developer myself, I'd happily manage some people in India on a project, if I was not a coder, I can't imagine how easily it would turn into a nightmare. Legality is another, an Indian NDA probably doesn't mean much. However, in my case, the core deciding factor is Code Project. I got the job here largely as a known entity, that is, I doubt if some stranger on the other side of the world wrote to Chris, he'd get a job offer, at least not straight away. Distance is meaningless between people who already know each other. For every other job, it's been people who find my image processing articles and write to me directly for help, and end up offering me work. If I didn't have my image processing articles, then none of this would have happened ( well, possibly the CP job, but probably not because I would not have been thinking along those lines ). Most of my work has been in image processing, where it's harder to find people and so people have been glad just to find me ( I've done jobs for $5000 and found out the other quote they got from a firm that does this sort of work was $100k+ ). If you were hiring people to do standard winforms work, then yeah, I can't see any reason beyond legal ones to hire someone in the US over someone in India, assuming you can keep the project management side under control. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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              Christian Graus wrote:

              Well, I'm not in the USA as it happens, I'm in Australia

              Opps... :-O

              Christian Graus wrote:

              I've done jobs for $5000 and found out the other quote they got from a firm that does this sort of work was $100k+ ).

              Ouch! Oh well, you were probably happy with the $5K until you heard about the $100K ;) Yeah, working from remote in the world today means just about anywhere in the world, the work can be performed. It is nice to have a special niche though! Rocky <>< Latest Post: Visual Studio 2005 Standard, whats missing? Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                Well, I'm not in the USA as it happens, I'm in Australia

                Opps... :-O

                Christian Graus wrote:

                I've done jobs for $5000 and found out the other quote they got from a firm that does this sort of work was $100k+ ).

                Ouch! Oh well, you were probably happy with the $5K until you heard about the $100K ;) Yeah, working from remote in the world today means just about anywhere in the world, the work can be performed. It is nice to have a special niche though! Rocky <>< Latest Post: Visual Studio 2005 Standard, whats missing? Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]

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                I was still happy. I did the job in an evening. I quoted that high as I had no idea how to do the job or how long it would take me. :P

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                It is nice to have a special niche though!

                Yeah, and it certainly happened by accident, my first job just led to that stuff. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                  I was still happy. I did the job in an evening. I quoted that high as I had no idea how to do the job or how long it would take me. :P

                  Rocky Moore wrote:

                  It is nice to have a special niche though!

                  Yeah, and it certainly happened by accident, my first job just led to that stuff. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  I did the job in an evening

                  Now that is a good hourly wage :) Rocky <>< Latest Post: Visual Studio 2005 Standard, whats missing? Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]

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