Public smoking becomes illegal in Toronto starting tomorrow
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Looks like there are only 2 places where a smoker can legally smoke. 1. Inside his/her apartment. 2. Inside his/her car. Regards, Nish
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It’s last call for smokers in Ontario[^] - Smitha
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If this act will ban smoking in pubs/bars/restaurants, those places should suffer a decereasing of clients... and will be economically ruined... and in 6 months situation will be corrected by law... and so on... :cool:
Not sure. I think people would still go to pubs and restaurants as usual, but they'd probably find some safe corners around where they could smoke without anyone spotting them. - Smitha
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This is awesome. I am very anxious that they do the same in France, so that I can again go to a bar/pub without being smoked dead. ~RaGE();
Rage wrote:
This is awesome.
Absolutely. Scotland has been smoke free for a few months now. I drove into England last week and I suddenly realised how lucky we are in Scotland because all the motorway service restaurants/cafeterias had smoking sections and it smelled awful. It is amazing that I didn't notice the ban come in to force, but now it is here I am more sensitive to people smoking because I experience their second hand smoke so little these days.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." --Charles Babbage (1791-1871) My: Website | Blog
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Having buried both of my parents due to smoking related illnesses, OH HAPPY DAY! :-D
Apparently, passive smoking is very dangerous too. So yes, yay! - Smitha
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can't someone simply open up a non-smoking pub? BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven WrightThere were some non-smoking pubs in Scotland before our ban came into force. But most said that becoming non-smoking would kill their business. From what I see the pub I go to most often has increased its business since the ban came in. I guess these businesses are scared that they'll lose customers without realising that there are many more who'd like to be customers but the smoke puts them off.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." --Charles Babbage (1791-1871) My: Website | Blog
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Having buried both of my parents due to smoking related illnesses, OH HAPPY DAY! :-D
Having lost a Dad to cancer, have to say smoking is not one of the brighter moves. However, I don't think you really want the government behaving this invasively. It never ends. You think you will be able to smoke in your car/house, then someone will say, "but what about the other people in your house..." and then they'll be in there as well. Having said that, #1 beef with smokers - put your Da$$m butts in your ashtray, don't fling them out the window. Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW.
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VuNic wrote:
And you have any message for Nish with this?
I've pretty much quit smoking. In the last 6 months, I may have smoked 10 cigarettes in total, that too when a smoker friend has offered one to me, and I didn't want to seem rude by saying no. Regards, Nish
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If this act will ban smoking in pubs/bars/restaurants, those places should suffer a decereasing of clients... and will be economically ruined... and in 6 months situation will be corrected by law... and so on... :cool:
Not so. Scotland has a smoking ban and the pub I go to normally has increased its business since the ban came in. I was worried at first as the first week after the ban it seemed almost dead - but within a couple of weeks it was back to normal and now it is packed, even mid-week.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." --Charles Babbage (1791-1871) My: Website | Blog
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Looks like there are only 2 places where a smoker can legally smoke. 1. Inside his/her apartment. 2. Inside his/her car. Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications.Or in the garden or backyard, as long as they are big enough. Cheers Smitha
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There were some non-smoking pubs in Scotland before our ban came into force. But most said that becoming non-smoking would kill their business. From what I see the pub I go to most often has increased its business since the ban came in. I guess these businesses are scared that they'll lose customers without realising that there are many more who'd like to be customers but the smoke puts them off.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." --Charles Babbage (1791-1871) My: Website | Blog
If pubs are going to lose that much business by going non-smoking, then I would guess the smoke isn't bothering the majority. The legislation seems more about helping the stupid citizens lead productive, happy lives, than anything else. I smoke, but I can't stand overly smokey bars. I don't go to them. It's really that simple. BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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so they should just enforce litter statutes. BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven WrightIt's impossible since most cops aren't standing next to smokers whever they're done with their cigarettes. Besides, a lot of smokers flick the butts from their car windows. I guess they can't stand the sight and smell of cigarettes in their car's ash tray.
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so they should just enforce litter statutes. BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven WrightBut sometimes hot ash would fly and fall on your dress, leaving a burned hole! That happened to me twice! :-D Cheers Smitha
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It's impossible since most cops aren't standing next to smokers whever they're done with their cigarettes. Besides, a lot of smokers flick the butts from their car windows. I guess they can't stand the sight and smell of cigarettes in their car's ash tray.
Why not ban all disposal containers as well? People throw paper, cups, wrappers, and all kinds of other things on the ground. Since we can't enforce the litter laws, we should nip the problem in the bud and do away with anything else that could become trash. Same logic, isn't it? BW
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But sometimes hot ash would fly and fall on your dress, leaving a burned hole! That happened to me twice! :-D Cheers Smitha
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that's just awful luck. :) Come to think of it, though. I have had a hole burned into my dress also....:~ errr.. disregard that last bit. BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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When the smoking ban came into force in Ireland, there was a bar in Kerry that cut a number of small holes along one wall, to allow a smoker to stick their hand with the fag in it out of one hole and then periodically stick there head out the one beside it to take a drag... the joys of a wet country and an inside smoking ban :)
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There were some non-smoking pubs in Scotland before our ban came into force. But most said that becoming non-smoking would kill their business. From what I see the pub I go to most often has increased its business since the ban came in. I guess these businesses are scared that they'll lose customers without realising that there are many more who'd like to be customers but the smoke puts them off.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." --Charles Babbage (1791-1871) My: Website | Blog
Exactly the same rhetoric was said in British Columbia (Canada) when they implemented smoke free several years ago. The end result.... Business went up. I used to not go into pubs at all because I'd come out selling like an ashtray. Now I go perhaps 30 times a year. Watch a local televised hockey game with friends over beer. Cheers. David
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It’s last call for smokers in Ontario[^] - Smitha
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Ontario gets my 5 vote :)
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Exactly the same rhetoric was said in British Columbia (Canada) when they implemented smoke free several years ago. The end result.... Business went up. I used to not go into pubs at all because I'd come out selling like an ashtray. Now I go perhaps 30 times a year. Watch a local televised hockey game with friends over beer. Cheers. David
Orcrist wrote:
Watch a local televised hockey game with friends over beer.
...and what happens when some group decides to protest public consumption of alcohol? Will you support that ban as well? P.S. I don't smoke, but all these smoking bans make me nervous. :~ "The trouble with jogging is that the ice falls out of your glass." - Martin Mull
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
when a smoker friend has offered one to me,
Smitha, I think you need some enquiry here ! :-D Surprised that you used to smoke(You look like a good boy:rolleyes:), happy that you quit it almost. And did you leave smoking out of compulsion by Smitha ?
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VuNic wrote:
And did you leave smoking out of compulsion by Smitha ?
As long as he is just an occasional smoker, I don't have a problem. But it is most convenient that he has almost quit smoking. Cheers Smitha
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