Public smoking becomes illegal in Toronto starting tomorrow
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Besides, the ban on cigarettes is mainly for the air we breath and the smell of our clothes.
Not always. For health insurance reasons the Federal government banned smoking on all federal work areas. For fire hazard reasons much of the southwest national forests have a ban on smoking (even in your car! so watch it when you drive through) as well as camp-fires and camp-stoves. Last time I was on the trail before they closed the national forests here recently (because people "must" ignore the smoking ban -- it is their "right" to ignore it), I was hopping on the trail when a ranger came up and reminded me as I loaded up my pack that there was no camp fires and no smoking. I pull out my trail supplies and showed him, I told him I am probably the only hiker in the county that actually knows how to cold-camp. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) -- modified at 14:17 Tuesday 30th May, 2006
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
I am probably the only hiker in the county that actually knows how to cold-camp.
Just make sure you have the right company to heat up. ;)
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Michael Dunn wrote:
It's been illegal to smoke indoors in CA for years.
Indoors as in Public-indoors, right? When I was in Mt View, people used to smoke in the streets all the time. Regards, Nish
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
I am probably the only hiker in the county that actually knows how to cold-camp.
Just make sure you have the right company to heat up. ;)
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Just make sure you have the right company to heat up.
Nope, I hike alone. Not the safest, but not much choice. It's hike alone or don't hike. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
I guess they can't stand the sight and smell of cigarettes in their car's ash tray
Or in my case, they don't care about the 100,000+ people living in a 600,000 acre National Forest with plenty of dry brush. PJC
Paul Conrad wrote:
Or in my case, they don't care about the 100,000+ people living in a 600,000 acre National Forest with plenty of dry brush.
Ditto! though I don't think we have 100,000+ people here... at least half that much with all the mountain communities combined, but maybe, just maybe near that. They had to close the national forest here because people refuse to follow the ban. If someone can't play by the rules, no one can play. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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:confused: It's been illegal to smoke indoors in CA for years.
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Michael Dunn wrote:
It's been illegal to smoke indoors in CA for years.
That's not good enough. I am talking about outdoors, too. Nothing like walking outside in front of a movie theater and my children and I getting second hand smoke. Simply ban smoking altogether :)
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Michael Dunn wrote:
It's been illegal to smoke indoors in CA for years.
That's not good enough. I am talking about outdoors, too. Nothing like walking outside in front of a movie theater and my children and I getting second hand smoke. Simply ban smoking altogether :)
Paul Conrad wrote:
Nothing like walking outside in front of a movie theater and my children and I getting second hand smoke. Simply ban smoking altogether
But cars (specially SUVs) and trucks emit more poisonous gas than do smokers, don't they? Regards, Nish
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Paul Conrad wrote:
Nothing like walking outside in front of a movie theater and my children and I getting second hand smoke. Simply ban smoking altogether
But cars (specially SUVs) and trucks emit more poisonous gas than do smokers, don't they? Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications.Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
But cars (specially SUVs) and trucks emit more poisonous gas than do smokers, don't they?
Yep. The nice thing about living at the 6,000ft altitude where I live, the Los Angeles smog is a good 3,000 feet below :-> So when I go down the mountain, I try to hold my breath.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
But cars (specially SUVs) and trucks emit more poisonous gas than do smokers, don't they?
Yep. The nice thing about living at the 6,000ft altitude where I live, the Los Angeles smog is a good 3,000 feet below :-> So when I go down the mountain, I try to hold my breath.
Paul Conrad wrote:
The nice thing about living at the 6,000ft altitude where I live, the Los Angeles smog is a good 3,000 feet below
Cool :-) Regards, Nish
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Having lost a Dad to cancer, have to say smoking is not one of the brighter moves. However, I don't think you really want the government behaving this invasively. It never ends. You think you will be able to smoke in your car/house, then someone will say, "but what about the other people in your house..." and then they'll be in there as well. Having said that, #1 beef with smokers - put your Da$$m butts in your ashtray, don't fling them out the window. Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW.
charlieg wrote:
You think you will be able to smoke in your car/house
Interesting thought - what about idiots who smoke around children? The children don't reasonably have the opportunity to escape the smoke (it's in their home) and they're probably even more affected than adults by 2nd hand smoke (developing lungs etc). Paul
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Good. A similar law comes into force in the UK next year (it's already law in Scotland). As someone who had to suffer second hand smoke from my family constantly when I was little, I'm all for it. I've walked out of places before now because of smoke (it which makes me cough badly, and I have enough difficulties with shortness of breath as it is, probably as a result to the exposure I suffered during my childhood) so it will be good to feel I can actually go into bars etc. again. Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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charlieg wrote:
You think you will be able to smoke in your car/house
Interesting thought - what about idiots who smoke around children? The children don't reasonably have the opportunity to escape the smoke (it's in their home) and they're probably even more affected than adults by 2nd hand smoke (developing lungs etc). Paul
I can speak from personal experience on that one. I'm certain the problems I have with breathlessness are closely linked to an almost continuous passive smoke exposure during childhood... Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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I can speak from personal experience on that one. I'm certain the problems I have with breathlessness are closely linked to an almost continuous passive smoke exposure during childhood... Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
It's a good point - and one that I am very sensitive too. But where I hesitate is when the *government* decides what is best for a child. Please, I am NOT advocating as a parental right that one should smoke around your children. Both of my parents were/are smokers, and it drove me crazy. What I am advocating is that a paternalistic government is a far greater threat to the child's freedoms than any brain-dead parent, myself included. Paranoid? Sure, I'm a crazy American. But, in American society, we can sue McDonald's for encouraging us to be overweight. Now, we have suggestions that parents should be held liable for not providing "proper" nutrition for their children. Interestingly, "proper" is determined by government and not common sense. Where does it end? I guess in summary, it really boils down to the parents being responsible and not the nanny state. Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW.