Reading
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I am of course talking about technical books we read to learn new languages/technologies. I want to know how people read to best absorb knowledge. Lying or sitting? With no-one else around? Absolute quite or music in the background? What else? I have been reading through a few old and new books of late. I have found it difficult reading through with distractions of kids and family. How do the rest of you with kids find time to read? Reading during the day is almost impossible. Evening depends on when my eldest finally gets to sleep. If I read too late in to the night I suffer the next day when awoken early by the kids. Don't know how people like Christian do it. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "He orginally got the Tweezers of Destruction through the scanners but then popped back outside for a smoke." - Chris Maunder 26/03/2002
If I am learning a new language (or indeed one I already use ;)), the only way to read is infront of my computer with the appropriate compiler/IDE/etc open. I am the kind of person who needs to apply ideas as soon as I get them before they will sink in, and invariably before I can understand how and why something is done. If I am reading any other form of technical book, I usually turn to it whenever I am travelling. I find it a lot easier to settle down and concentrate when I don't have to worry about distractions like e-mail or telephone calls. ____________________ David Wulff The seas have parted The endings started The sky has turned to black A killing spree through eternity The devil stabs you in the back It's midnight now you must escape somehow Torture is his leisure Don't try to hide he'll make you subside As he exchanges pain for pleasure - Sum 41
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Michael Martin wrote: Lying or sitting? With no-one else around? Absolute quite or music in the background? What else? Lying or sitting, makes no difference to me. For technical reading I need absolute solitude. If I'm reading a novel it really doesn't matter. My kids are old enough (15 & 11) that they don't cause too much problem. Both really like to read so that helps.
Mike Mullikin If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.
Mike Mullikin wrote: Lying or sitting, makes no difference to me. How on earth do you manage to hold an 800 page technical-sized book above your head for so long! Or do you just bend you neck at right angles and read it from the hip? In case you can't tell, reading when lying down is not something I havce mastered. :( Mike Mullikin wrote: My kids are old enough (15 & 11) that they don't cause too much problem. Oh man - you have obviously never had kids before. ;P ____________________ David Wulff The seas have parted The endings started The sky has turned to black A killing spree through eternity The devil stabs you in the back It's midnight now you must escape somehow Torture is his leisure Don't try to hide he'll make you subside As he exchanges pain for pleasure - Sum 41
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Mike Mullikin wrote: Lying or sitting, makes no difference to me. How on earth do you manage to hold an 800 page technical-sized book above your head for so long! Or do you just bend you neck at right angles and read it from the hip? In case you can't tell, reading when lying down is not something I havce mastered. :( Mike Mullikin wrote: My kids are old enough (15 & 11) that they don't cause too much problem. Oh man - you have obviously never had kids before. ;P ____________________ David Wulff The seas have parted The endings started The sky has turned to black A killing spree through eternity The devil stabs you in the back It's midnight now you must escape somehow Torture is his leisure Don't try to hide he'll make you subside As he exchanges pain for pleasure - Sum 41
David Wulff wrote: How on earth do you manage to hold an 800 page technical-sized book above your head for so long! Or do you just bend you neck at right angles and read it from the hip? About a ten pillows behind my back, neck and head and the book on my hip. It's not pretty. As for my kids, they are amazingly good. My daughter (15) reads all the time (probably 3-4 hours a day, EVERYDAY!). The boy (11) spends more time in front of his computer, but is generally pretty quite. He's actually starting to do a little programming (if you call VB programming ;P ).
Mike Mullikin If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.
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Mike Mullikin wrote: Lying or sitting, makes no difference to me. How on earth do you manage to hold an 800 page technical-sized book above your head for so long! Or do you just bend you neck at right angles and read it from the hip? In case you can't tell, reading when lying down is not something I havce mastered. :( Mike Mullikin wrote: My kids are old enough (15 & 11) that they don't cause too much problem. Oh man - you have obviously never had kids before. ;P ____________________ David Wulff The seas have parted The endings started The sky has turned to black A killing spree through eternity The devil stabs you in the back It's midnight now you must escape somehow Torture is his leisure Don't try to hide he'll make you subside As he exchanges pain for pleasure - Sum 41
David Wulff wrote: How on earth do you manage to hold an 800 page technical-sized book above your head for so long! Your telling me, I am reading a 1300 page book on MFC and my arms keep falling asleep -:suss:Matt Newman / Anti-Linux Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman
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I am of course talking about technical books we read to learn new languages/technologies. I want to know how people read to best absorb knowledge. Lying or sitting? With no-one else around? Absolute quite or music in the background? What else? I have been reading through a few old and new books of late. I have found it difficult reading through with distractions of kids and family. How do the rest of you with kids find time to read? Reading during the day is almost impossible. Evening depends on when my eldest finally gets to sleep. If I read too late in to the night I suffer the next day when awoken early by the kids. Don't know how people like Christian do it. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "He orginally got the Tweezers of Destruction through the scanners but then popped back outside for a smoke." - Chris Maunder 26/03/2002
I like to read in a half slanted position. I do this by pushing the pillow against the wall in my bed and lying against the pillow with my legs pushed straight out of the bed into a chair placed there to hold my feet. I also have something to munch near me, usually chips or biscuits. then I read, read, read... Nish
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David Wulff wrote: How on earth do you manage to hold an 800 page technical-sized book above your head for so long! Or do you just bend you neck at right angles and read it from the hip? About a ten pillows behind my back, neck and head and the book on my hip. It's not pretty. As for my kids, they are amazingly good. My daughter (15) reads all the time (probably 3-4 hours a day, EVERYDAY!). The boy (11) spends more time in front of his computer, but is generally pretty quite. He's actually starting to do a little programming (if you call VB programming ;P ).
Mike Mullikin If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.
Mike Mullikin wrote: As for my kids, they are amazingly good. My daughter (15) reads all the time (probably 3-4 hours a day, EVERYDAY!). The boy (11) spends more time in front of his computer, but is generally pretty quite. He's actually starting to do a little programming (if you call VB programming ). I am so, so sorry for you. :(( Your daughter is pregnant and your son is gay. ____________________ David Wulff The seas have parted The endings started The sky has turned to black A killing spree through eternity The devil stabs you in the back It's midnight now you must escape somehow Torture is his leisure Don't try to hide he'll make you subside As he exchanges pain for pleasure - Sum 41 (I know I know - bad humour, but it has to be said) :laugh:
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I am of course talking about technical books we read to learn new languages/technologies. I want to know how people read to best absorb knowledge. Lying or sitting? With no-one else around? Absolute quite or music in the background? What else? I have been reading through a few old and new books of late. I have found it difficult reading through with distractions of kids and family. How do the rest of you with kids find time to read? Reading during the day is almost impossible. Evening depends on when my eldest finally gets to sleep. If I read too late in to the night I suffer the next day when awoken early by the kids. Don't know how people like Christian do it. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "He orginally got the Tweezers of Destruction through the scanners but then popped back outside for a smoke." - Chris Maunder 26/03/2002
When I was still at uni I sat in my chair but I much prefer to lay down on the couch with a movie on the boob tube in case I want to take a break. I prefer no one else around though because I have a hard time keeping my focus where I want it instead of where someone else wants it. No kids so I can't comment about that aspect of it :) James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "I left there in the morning with their God tucked underneath my arm their half-assed smiles and the book of rules. So I asked this God a question and by way of firm reply, He said - I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays." "Wind Up" from Aqualung, Jethro Tull 1971
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If I am learning a new language (or indeed one I already use ;)), the only way to read is infront of my computer with the appropriate compiler/IDE/etc open. I am the kind of person who needs to apply ideas as soon as I get them before they will sink in, and invariably before I can understand how and why something is done. If I am reading any other form of technical book, I usually turn to it whenever I am travelling. I find it a lot easier to settle down and concentrate when I don't have to worry about distractions like e-mail or telephone calls. ____________________ David Wulff The seas have parted The endings started The sky has turned to black A killing spree through eternity The devil stabs you in the back It's midnight now you must escape somehow Torture is his leisure Don't try to hide he'll make you subside As he exchanges pain for pleasure - Sum 41
Travelling is an excellent way to burn through pages in a book. Especially those long boring trips :) When I went to tour Michigan Tech I finished two novels; one on the way up, a second on the way down. Unfortunately my budget didn't have enough money for programming books or else I would have been reading one of them. Instead I was reading R.A. Salvatore's Crystal Shard series books 2 and 3. James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "I left there in the morning with their God tucked underneath my arm their half-assed smiles and the book of rules. So I asked this God a question and by way of firm reply, He said - I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays." "Wind Up" from Aqualung, Jethro Tull 1971
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When I was still at uni I sat in my chair but I much prefer to lay down on the couch with a movie on the boob tube in case I want to take a break. I prefer no one else around though because I have a hard time keeping my focus where I want it instead of where someone else wants it. No kids so I can't comment about that aspect of it :) James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "I left there in the morning with their God tucked underneath my arm their half-assed smiles and the book of rules. So I asked this God a question and by way of firm reply, He said - I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays." "Wind Up" from Aqualung, Jethro Tull 1971
James T. Johnson wrote: No kids so I can't comment about that aspect of it LOL Nish p.s. me too!
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Mike Mullikin wrote: As for my kids, they are amazingly good. My daughter (15) reads all the time (probably 3-4 hours a day, EVERYDAY!). The boy (11) spends more time in front of his computer, but is generally pretty quite. He's actually starting to do a little programming (if you call VB programming ). I am so, so sorry for you. :(( Your daughter is pregnant and your son is gay. ____________________ David Wulff The seas have parted The endings started The sky has turned to black A killing spree through eternity The devil stabs you in the back It's midnight now you must escape somehow Torture is his leisure Don't try to hide he'll make you subside As he exchanges pain for pleasure - Sum 41 (I know I know - bad humour, but it has to be said) :laugh:
David Wulff wrote: I am so, so sorry for you. Your daughter is pregnant and your son is gay. ROTFLMAO, getting up and then again ROTFLMAO Nish
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I am of course talking about technical books we read to learn new languages/technologies. I want to know how people read to best absorb knowledge. Lying or sitting? With no-one else around? Absolute quite or music in the background? What else? I have been reading through a few old and new books of late. I have found it difficult reading through with distractions of kids and family. How do the rest of you with kids find time to read? Reading during the day is almost impossible. Evening depends on when my eldest finally gets to sleep. If I read too late in to the night I suffer the next day when awoken early by the kids. Don't know how people like Christian do it. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "He orginally got the Tweezers of Destruction through the scanners but then popped back outside for a smoke." - Chris Maunder 26/03/2002
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Michael Martin wrote: I want to know how people read to best absorb knowledge. Alone and with a book. :-)
Good choice.
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Mike Mullikin wrote: As for my kids, they are amazingly good. My daughter (15) reads all the time (probably 3-4 hours a day, EVERYDAY!). The boy (11) spends more time in front of his computer, but is generally pretty quite. He's actually starting to do a little programming (if you call VB programming ). I am so, so sorry for you. :(( Your daughter is pregnant and your son is gay. ____________________ David Wulff The seas have parted The endings started The sky has turned to black A killing spree through eternity The devil stabs you in the back It's midnight now you must escape somehow Torture is his leisure Don't try to hide he'll make you subside As he exchanges pain for pleasure - Sum 41 (I know I know - bad humour, but it has to be said) :laugh:
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David Wulff wrote: Your daughter is pregnant and your son is gay. I fail to see the humour. :(
Mike Mullikin If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.
Let me spell it out for you... My daughter (15) reads all the time (probably 3-4 hours a day, EVERYDAY!). Your daughter is pregnant. He's actually starting to do a little programming (if you call VB programming) Your son is gay. If you still can't see it, then it is obviously the good old American lack-of-a-sense-of-humour kicking in. ____________________ David Wulff The seas have parted The endings started The sky has turned to black A killing spree through eternity The devil stabs you in the back It's midnight now you must escape somehow Torture is his leisure Don't try to hide he'll make you subside As he exchanges pain for pleasure - Sum 41
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Let me spell it out for you... My daughter (15) reads all the time (probably 3-4 hours a day, EVERYDAY!). Your daughter is pregnant. He's actually starting to do a little programming (if you call VB programming) Your son is gay. If you still can't see it, then it is obviously the good old American lack-of-a-sense-of-humour kicking in. ____________________ David Wulff The seas have parted The endings started The sky has turned to black A killing spree through eternity The devil stabs you in the back It's midnight now you must escape somehow Torture is his leisure Don't try to hide he'll make you subside As he exchanges pain for pleasure - Sum 41
David Wulff wrote: If you still can't see it, then it is obviously the good old American lack-of-a-sense-of-humour kicking in. Sorry, I still don't see it. Maybe you're just not very funny. ;P
Mike Mullikin If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.
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David Wulff wrote: If you still can't see it, then it is obviously the good old American lack-of-a-sense-of-humour kicking in. Sorry, I still don't see it. Maybe you're just not very funny. ;P
Mike Mullikin If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.
Well the total currently stands at 2 for, 1 against, so it guess it isn't me... ____________________ David Wulff The seas have parted The endings started The sky has turned to black A killing spree through eternity The devil stabs you in the back It's midnight now you must escape somehow Torture is his leisure Don't try to hide he'll make you subside As he exchanges pain for pleasure - Sum 41
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David Wulff wrote: Your daughter is pregnant and your son is gay. I fail to see the humour. :(
Mike Mullikin If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.
Mike Mullikin wrote: I fail to see the humour. Dave's strong old fashioned british humor can be quite hard sometimes Mike. nish
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Good choice.
Roger Wright wrote: Good choice. Yeah, specially the book. Nish
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Well the total currently stands at 2 for, 1 against, so it guess it isn't me... ____________________ David Wulff The seas have parted The endings started The sky has turned to black A killing spree through eternity The devil stabs you in the back It's midnight now you must escape somehow Torture is his leisure Don't try to hide he'll make you subside As he exchanges pain for pleasure - Sum 41
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David Wulff wrote: Well the total currently stands at 2 for, 1 against, so it guess it isn't me... A sampling of 3 is hardly statistically accurate. If we can get 10-20 votes...?
Mike Mullikin If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.
Mike Mullikin wrote: If we can get 10-20 votes...? The last time this happened was with Martin, and in the end he suggested exactly the same thing you just did - take it to the masses, so to speak. And do you know what - every single person agreed with me, and even if I don't get one hundred per cent now, I beg to argue that the majority will find it funny. However, you are welcome to try by all means if you are feeling lucky. ____________________ David Wulff The seas have parted The endings started The sky has turned to black A killing spree through eternity The devil stabs you in the back It's midnight now you must escape somehow Torture is his leisure Don't try to hide he'll make you subside As he exchanges pain for pleasure - Sum 41