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  • A Adnan Siddiqi

    Stan Shannon wrote:

    What does that have to do with me? I didn't do it. Why are you blaming Americans for our press's behavior? There are 300 million Americans, we all don't write newspapers. Why do you want to hold us all responsible for the behavior of a few?

    according to your theory,why dont you stop american press?

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    SOrry, I no longer consider it my responsibility. If a billion muslims can be allowed to shrug off their responsibility, so can I. "You get that which you tolerate"

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      offcourse they were not genuine christianity rules.Like one of these.A misinterpeted statment. "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942) how is he different than osama who also thinks he the ONE who knows religion throughly and he can only end evil things from earth?The same hitler ideology is followed by Bush administration now.But if hypocricy is kept aside then Hitler should be treated as a practised christian like osama is treated as practised muslim

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      He sounds just like a Muslim!

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      • A Adnan Siddiqi

        offcourse they were not genuine christianity rules.Like one of these.A misinterpeted statment. "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942) how is he different than osama who also thinks he the ONE who knows religion throughly and he can only end evil things from earth?The same hitler ideology is followed by Bush administration now.But if hypocricy is kept aside then Hitler should be treated as a practised christian like osama is treated as practised muslim

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        Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

        how is he different than osama who also thinks he the ONE who knows religion throughly and he can only end evil things from earth?The same hitler ideology is followed by Bush administration now.But if hypocricy is kept aside then Hitler should be treated as a practised christian like osama is treated as practised muslim

        Look man, I'm not a Christian. I'm not religious at all. In fact, the Bible, the Qu'ran, what-have-you are nothing more than allegorical stories to me. Sure, the ideas and morals are nice, but beyond that they aren't worth taking seriously or fighting over. My bible is modern physics. It's much nicer than your typical religion-of-the-month because people of all colours and races can practice it without killing one another. That's the beauty of it. Furthermore, I don't support Hitler if that is what you are trying to imply. I also couldn't care less about the crap that spills out of the mouth of Hitler, Bush, Osama or whoever. They're all idiots. As far as I'm concerned Bush and Osama can have each other. Each one uses the other to justify his "cause". It's pretty stupid and equates to the behaviour of a 5 year old child. If people can't get along in this stupid world and stop arguing over petty things like religion, well then humanity deserves to be wiped out. It's pathetic. As for Hitler, well, he's a completely different story than Bush or Osama. Under his "rule", millions were killed and systematically exterminated in specialized camps. Neither Osama nor Bush are guilty of anything that serious.

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          offcourse they were not genuine christianity rules.Like one of these.A misinterpeted statment. "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942) how is he different than osama who also thinks he the ONE who knows religion throughly and he can only end evil things from earth?The same hitler ideology is followed by Bush administration now.But if hypocricy is kept aside then Hitler should be treated as a practised christian like osama is treated as practised muslim

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          Stan Shannon
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          Hitler was an evil that we took care of. We got rid of him. That is how responsible people act. "You get that which you tolerate"

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            TOWN OF SUGAR CREEK - A man in Walworth County has built a shrine to Nazi leader Adolf Hitler in a building in his backyard. Ted Junker, 87, says history books have it all wrong and Adolf Hitler was really a hero and he's going to hold an open house on June 25th to allow people to tour his Hitler shrine.[^] Subsidiary question: why does the US press systematically mention the Shoah when referring to Nazism and WW2 and not the other persecuted groups or individuals? Why this unique distinction?


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            Don Miguel
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            K(arl) wrote:

            Why this unique distinction?

            Now, this is really very simple question: because US press (like many others) are ruled by jewish peoples! Cheers, and keep asking! ;P

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              Er, numbers? It was only the Roma and Jews who were systematically exterminated on a racial basis, and there were far fewer Roma than Jews. Homosexuals and politicals were imprisoned and often worked to death, but they were not generally gassed. Outside of the concentration camps, the wehrmacht and SS committed vast numbers of atrocities, from the execution of prisoners of war to the extermination of villages and towns all over Europe and Russia in reprisals for partisan activity. Enumerating all these acts every time Hitler is mentioned would be quite tiring. Like it or not Karl, the Shoah has come to symbolise the evil of the Nazi regime, even though it was not the only bad thing they did. Ryan

              "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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              Ryan Roberts wrote:

              and there were far fewer Roma than Jews

              In absolute numbers perhaps, but proportionnally speaking Porrajmos may have been even more destructive for the Roma peoples. Everybody heard about the Shoah, very few about Porrajmos. Who also heard about T4? Is is more excusable to exterminate people because of their illness than because of their religion?

              Ryan Roberts wrote:

              Homosexuals and politicals were imprisoned and often worked to death, but they were not generally gassed.

              People belonging to Komsomol or communist party had to be shot if captured. It was systematic. No need of gas. First victims of gas chambers in Auchwitz were soviet and poles war prisoners. More than 3 millions of soviet war prisoners were exterminated by hunger, shots, executions. Why is this never reminded?

              Ryan Roberts wrote:

              Enumerating all these acts every time Hitler is mentioned would be quite tiring.

              :wtf:!

              Ryan Roberts wrote:

              the Shoah has come to symbolise the evil of the Nazi regime

              True in the US, IMO because the US tries to defuse its sentiment of guilt toward it. The Shoah is one of the symbols of the Nazism evil, it is far from being the only one, and far from being the only one to remember.


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              • S Stan Shannon

                Hitler was an evil that we took care of. We got rid of him. That is how responsible people act. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                Just like the KKK, communism and now Mulism extremists. Taking care of leftists has proven to be a long and arduous task, but we're making progress.

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                • A Adnan Siddiqi

                  Hitler was a very religious person.

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                  KaRl
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                  Indeed not...for instance his wedding was secular.


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                    Just like the KKK, communism and now Mulism extremists. Taking care of leftists has proven to be a long and arduous task, but we're making progress.

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                    73Zeppelin
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                    espeir wrote:

                    Taking care of leftists has proven to be a long and arduous task, but we're making progress.

                    :laugh: I hate to burst your bubble, but you'd better check your bastion of ivory towers that you like to call universities... Or maybe they're flying low under your radar. Don't get me wrong, I don't work in academia for those very reasons. Faculties are full of long-haired, disgusting hippies.

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                      Indeed not...for instance his wedding was secular.


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                      73Zeppelin
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                      Yes, but I think if you look at some of the quotations of Mein Kampf you get a bit of a different idea of his "religious" views. They are highly distorted visions of Christianity. I talked about it in another post in this thread.

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                        K(arl) wrote:

                        why does the US press systematically mention the Shoah

                        What does that have to do with me? I didn't do it. Why are you blaming Americans for our press's behavior? There are 300 million Americans, we all don't write newspapers. Why do you want to hold us all responsible for the behavior of a few? "You get that which you tolerate"

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                        KaRl
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                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                        Why are you blaming Americans for our press's behavior?

                        Re-read again:

                        K(arl) wrote:

                        why does the US press systematically mention the Shoah

                        Got it now? I'm talking about the US press, not Americans in general.


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                        • K KaRl

                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          Why are you blaming Americans for our press's behavior?

                          Re-read again:

                          K(arl) wrote:

                          why does the US press systematically mention the Shoah

                          Got it now? I'm talking about the US press, not Americans in general.


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                          Stan Shannon
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                          K(arl) wrote:

                          Got it now? I'm talking about the US press, not Americans in general.

                          Sorry, but I no longer take responsibility for misunderstanding your posts. Its not my fault. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                            espeir wrote:

                            Taking care of leftists has proven to be a long and arduous task, but we're making progress.

                            :laugh: I hate to burst your bubble, but you'd better check your bastion of ivory towers that you like to call universities... Or maybe they're flying low under your radar. Don't get me wrong, I don't work in academia for those very reasons. Faculties are full of long-haired, disgusting hippies.

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                            thealj wrote:

                            I hate to burst your bubble, but you'd better check your bastion of ivory towers that you like to call universities...

                            We're well aware. They're now indoctrination centers for leftist ideology that actively suppress any conservative speech through intimidation and sometimes violence. Like I said, it's a long and arduous task, but we're making progress.

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                              K(arl) wrote:

                              Why this unique distinction?

                              Now, this is really very simple question: because US press (like many others) are ruled by jewish peoples! Cheers, and keep asking! ;P

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                              Yes, that was the impression I was getting. Holocaust, Shmolocaust, what about Palestine? No wonder Jews are leaving France in droves. Ryan

                              "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                                K(arl) wrote:

                                Got it now? I'm talking about the US press, not Americans in general.

                                Sorry, but I no longer take responsibility for misunderstanding your posts. Its not my fault. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                                KaRl
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                                What a wussy ;-P - OT - Did your son return from his musical trip around Europe?


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                                  thealj wrote:

                                  I hate to burst your bubble, but you'd better check your bastion of ivory towers that you like to call universities...

                                  We're well aware. They're now indoctrination centers for leftist ideology that actively suppress any conservative speech through intimidation and sometimes violence. Like I said, it's a long and arduous task, but we're making progress.

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                                  73Zeppelin
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                                  espeir wrote:

                                  We're well aware. They're now indoctrination centers for leftist ideology that actively suppress any conservative speech through intimidation and sometimes violence. Like I said, it's a long and arduous task, but we're making progress.

                                  Two words: abolish tenure.

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                                    Ryan Roberts wrote:

                                    and there were far fewer Roma than Jews

                                    In absolute numbers perhaps, but proportionnally speaking Porrajmos may have been even more destructive for the Roma peoples. Everybody heard about the Shoah, very few about Porrajmos. Who also heard about T4? Is is more excusable to exterminate people because of their illness than because of their religion?

                                    Ryan Roberts wrote:

                                    Homosexuals and politicals were imprisoned and often worked to death, but they were not generally gassed.

                                    People belonging to Komsomol or communist party had to be shot if captured. It was systematic. No need of gas. First victims of gas chambers in Auchwitz were soviet and poles war prisoners. More than 3 millions of soviet war prisoners were exterminated by hunger, shots, executions. Why is this never reminded?

                                    Ryan Roberts wrote:

                                    Enumerating all these acts every time Hitler is mentioned would be quite tiring.

                                    :wtf:!

                                    Ryan Roberts wrote:

                                    the Shoah has come to symbolise the evil of the Nazi regime

                                    True in the US, IMO because the US tries to defuse its sentiment of guilt toward it. The Shoah is one of the symbols of the Nazism evil, it is far from being the only one, and far from being the only one to remember.


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                                    Ryan Roberts
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                                    K(arl) wrote:

                                    True in the US, IMO because the US tries to defuse its sentiment of guilt toward it.

                                    True in the UK too, and both the UK or US have little to be ashamed of. Except perhaps for the British attempts to stop the formation of Israel. Ryan

                                    "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                                      What a wussy ;-P - OT - Did your son return from his musical trip around Europe?


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                                      73Zeppelin
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                                      K(arl) wrote:

                                      Did your son return from his musical trip around Europe?

                                      It's not his responsibility to know that. ;)

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                                      • D Don Miguel

                                        K(arl) wrote:

                                        Why this unique distinction?

                                        Now, this is really very simple question: because US press (like many others) are ruled by jewish peoples! Cheers, and keep asking! ;P

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                                        KaRl
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                                        I don't think so. I rather believe a part of the US psyche has a problem with that, and tries to exorcice it that way.


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                                          What a wussy ;-P - OT - Did your son return from his musical trip around Europe?


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                                          Stan Shannon
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                                          Hasn't left yet. "You get that which you tolerate"

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