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  • S Stan Shannon

    K(arl) wrote:

    why does the US press systematically mention the Shoah

    What does that have to do with me? I didn't do it. Why are you blaming Americans for our press's behavior? There are 300 million Americans, we all don't write newspapers. Why do you want to hold us all responsible for the behavior of a few? "You get that which you tolerate"

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    Stan Shannon wrote:

    Why are you blaming Americans for our press's behavior?

    Re-read again:

    K(arl) wrote:

    why does the US press systematically mention the Shoah

    Got it now? I'm talking about the US press, not Americans in general.


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      Stan Shannon wrote:

      Why are you blaming Americans for our press's behavior?

      Re-read again:

      K(arl) wrote:

      why does the US press systematically mention the Shoah

      Got it now? I'm talking about the US press, not Americans in general.


      It is easier to make war than to make peace. Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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      K(arl) wrote:

      Got it now? I'm talking about the US press, not Americans in general.

      Sorry, but I no longer take responsibility for misunderstanding your posts. Its not my fault. "You get that which you tolerate"

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      • 7 73Zeppelin

        espeir wrote:

        Taking care of leftists has proven to be a long and arduous task, but we're making progress.

        :laugh: I hate to burst your bubble, but you'd better check your bastion of ivory towers that you like to call universities... Or maybe they're flying low under your radar. Don't get me wrong, I don't work in academia for those very reasons. Faculties are full of long-haired, disgusting hippies.

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        thealj wrote:

        I hate to burst your bubble, but you'd better check your bastion of ivory towers that you like to call universities...

        We're well aware. They're now indoctrination centers for leftist ideology that actively suppress any conservative speech through intimidation and sometimes violence. Like I said, it's a long and arduous task, but we're making progress.

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        • D Don Miguel

          K(arl) wrote:

          Why this unique distinction?

          Now, this is really very simple question: because US press (like many others) are ruled by jewish peoples! Cheers, and keep asking! ;P

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          Yes, that was the impression I was getting. Holocaust, Shmolocaust, what about Palestine? No wonder Jews are leaving France in droves. Ryan

          "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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          • S Stan Shannon

            K(arl) wrote:

            Got it now? I'm talking about the US press, not Americans in general.

            Sorry, but I no longer take responsibility for misunderstanding your posts. Its not my fault. "You get that which you tolerate"

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            What a wussy ;-P - OT - Did your son return from his musical trip around Europe?


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            • R Red Stateler

              thealj wrote:

              I hate to burst your bubble, but you'd better check your bastion of ivory towers that you like to call universities...

              We're well aware. They're now indoctrination centers for leftist ideology that actively suppress any conservative speech through intimidation and sometimes violence. Like I said, it's a long and arduous task, but we're making progress.

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              73Zeppelin
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              espeir wrote:

              We're well aware. They're now indoctrination centers for leftist ideology that actively suppress any conservative speech through intimidation and sometimes violence. Like I said, it's a long and arduous task, but we're making progress.

              Two words: abolish tenure.

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              • K KaRl

                Ryan Roberts wrote:

                and there were far fewer Roma than Jews

                In absolute numbers perhaps, but proportionnally speaking Porrajmos may have been even more destructive for the Roma peoples. Everybody heard about the Shoah, very few about Porrajmos. Who also heard about T4? Is is more excusable to exterminate people because of their illness than because of their religion?

                Ryan Roberts wrote:

                Homosexuals and politicals were imprisoned and often worked to death, but they were not generally gassed.

                People belonging to Komsomol or communist party had to be shot if captured. It was systematic. No need of gas. First victims of gas chambers in Auchwitz were soviet and poles war prisoners. More than 3 millions of soviet war prisoners were exterminated by hunger, shots, executions. Why is this never reminded?

                Ryan Roberts wrote:

                Enumerating all these acts every time Hitler is mentioned would be quite tiring.

                :wtf:!

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                the Shoah has come to symbolise the evil of the Nazi regime

                True in the US, IMO because the US tries to defuse its sentiment of guilt toward it. The Shoah is one of the symbols of the Nazism evil, it is far from being the only one, and far from being the only one to remember.


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                Ryan Roberts
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                K(arl) wrote:

                True in the US, IMO because the US tries to defuse its sentiment of guilt toward it.

                True in the UK too, and both the UK or US have little to be ashamed of. Except perhaps for the British attempts to stop the formation of Israel. Ryan

                "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                • K KaRl

                  What a wussy ;-P - OT - Did your son return from his musical trip around Europe?


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                  73Zeppelin
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                  K(arl) wrote:

                  Did your son return from his musical trip around Europe?

                  It's not his responsibility to know that. ;)

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                  • D Don Miguel

                    K(arl) wrote:

                    Why this unique distinction?

                    Now, this is really very simple question: because US press (like many others) are ruled by jewish peoples! Cheers, and keep asking! ;P

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                    I don't think so. I rather believe a part of the US psyche has a problem with that, and tries to exorcice it that way.


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                    • K KaRl

                      What a wussy ;-P - OT - Did your son return from his musical trip around Europe?


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                      Stan Shannon
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                      Hasn't left yet. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                      • R Ryan Roberts

                        Yes, that was the impression I was getting. Holocaust, Shmolocaust, what about Palestine? No wonder Jews are leaving France in droves. Ryan

                        "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                        KaRl
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                        Of course, anyone trying to make a comment about something related to Israel, Jew or Judaism is mandatory anti-semitic if the comment is not enthusiastic and if he is not Jew himself...


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                        • A Adnan Siddiqi

                          Hitler was a very religious person.

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                          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                          Rumour has it that he was into occultism.

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                          • R Ryan Roberts

                            K(arl) wrote:

                            True in the US, IMO because the US tries to defuse its sentiment of guilt toward it.

                            True in the UK too, and both the UK or US have little to be ashamed of. Except perhaps for the British attempts to stop the formation of Israel. Ryan

                            "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                            KaRl
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                            Ryan Roberts wrote:

                            both the UK or US have little to be ashamed of.

                            I disagree. From the US behavior toward Jewish european immigration before[^] and during[^] WW2 to its refusal to bomb railways leading to Auschwitz[^] through the silence maintained on information got in 1942 and 1943 about the slaughters and the economic collaboration of major US societies with the Nazis, I think the US has much to be ashamed of.


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                            • K KaRl

                              Ryan Roberts wrote:

                              both the UK or US have little to be ashamed of.

                              I disagree. From the US behavior toward Jewish european immigration before[^] and during[^] WW2 to its refusal to bomb railways leading to Auschwitz[^] through the silence maintained on information got in 1942 and 1943 about the slaughters and the economic collaboration of major US societies with the Nazis, I think the US has much to be ashamed of.


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                              Red Stateler
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                              So it's not enough that the poor people were being gassed...You think they should have been bombed, too? I don't know what's more offensive...That comment, or the fact that your nation willingly permitted Germany to enter your country and round up your Jews.

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                              • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                Rumour has it that he was into occultism.

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                                Red Stateler
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                                Did you get that rumor from Indiana Jones?

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                                • R Red Stateler

                                  He sounds just like a Muslim!

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                                  Nish Nishant
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                                  espeir wrote:

                                  He sounds just like a Muslim!

                                  But he was a Christian and he believed he was following the Bible. Goes to show that fanatics in any religion mostly act and think the same way :-) Regards, Nish


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                                  • 7 73Zeppelin

                                    Yes, but I think if you look at some of the quotations of Mein Kampf you get a bit of a different idea of his "religious" views. They are highly distorted visions of Christianity. I talked about it in another post in this thread.

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                                    KaRl
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                                    there is no doubt he considered himself a prophet... however the term of religious is IMHO misleading in this context


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                                      espeir wrote:

                                      He sounds just like a Muslim!

                                      But he was a Christian and he believed he was following the Bible. Goes to show that fanatics in any religion mostly act and think the same way :-) Regards, Nish


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                                      Red Stateler
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                                      Actually he suppressed Christian Churches in Germany and very infrequently invoked Christianity, so he was by no means a religious fanatic (if he was even a theist). The above quote was probably taken from a speech directed at pious people in order to win them over. In fact, he stopped attending church (he was Catholic as a youth) altogether as a teenager and discarded the teachings in favor of a secular-based aryan (derived from darwinism) mentality. His zeal was derived from secular nationalistic desires to expand his race. But I agree that fanatics (especially the atheist variety) act in similar ways.

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                                      • K KaRl

                                        there is no doubt he considered himself a prophet... however the term of religious is IMHO misleading in this context


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                                        73Zeppelin
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                                        Yes, that's why I put it in quotes.

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                                        • 7 73Zeppelin

                                          Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                          how is he different than osama who also thinks he the ONE who knows religion throughly and he can only end evil things from earth?The same hitler ideology is followed by Bush administration now.But if hypocricy is kept aside then Hitler should be treated as a practised christian like osama is treated as practised muslim

                                          Look man, I'm not a Christian. I'm not religious at all. In fact, the Bible, the Qu'ran, what-have-you are nothing more than allegorical stories to me. Sure, the ideas and morals are nice, but beyond that they aren't worth taking seriously or fighting over. My bible is modern physics. It's much nicer than your typical religion-of-the-month because people of all colours and races can practice it without killing one another. That's the beauty of it. Furthermore, I don't support Hitler if that is what you are trying to imply. I also couldn't care less about the crap that spills out of the mouth of Hitler, Bush, Osama or whoever. They're all idiots. As far as I'm concerned Bush and Osama can have each other. Each one uses the other to justify his "cause". It's pretty stupid and equates to the behaviour of a 5 year old child. If people can't get along in this stupid world and stop arguing over petty things like religion, well then humanity deserves to be wiped out. It's pathetic. As for Hitler, well, he's a completely different story than Bush or Osama. Under his "rule", millions were killed and systematically exterminated in specialized camps. Neither Osama nor Bush are guilty of anything that serious.

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                                          Nish Nishant
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                                          thealj wrote:

                                          In fact, the Bible, the Qu'ran, what-have-you are nothing more than allegorical stories to me. Sure, the ideas and morals are nice, but beyond that they aren't worth taking seriously or fighting over. My bible is modern physics. It's much nicer than your typical religion-of-the-month because people of all colours and races can practice it without killing one another. That's the beauty of it.

                                          5! :) Regards, Nish


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