Whoa: No more Bill?
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I think his departure from MS will not have any immediate or short-term impact on how and what MD does. Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:
I think his departure from MS will not have any immediate or short-term impact on how and what MD does.
You're right, those Marylanders pretty much sail their own boat. God bless 'em for it, too. Charlie if(!curlies){ return; }
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I'm not sure Bill has really had that much effect on a day-to-day basis anyway in quite a long time. His devotion to VB has affected Microsofts actions vis-a-vis Visual Studio, though I think this is more a case of company employees doing things thinking it will please The Man, than anything Bill has directly ordered. Personally, I'd rather see Steve Balmer go. I do think he has become a liability to the company and not just imagewise (i.e. essentially acting like a monkey on stage, though that's an insult to monkeys.) I do think both men did an amazing job creating Microsoft, but their time has passed. (I still think there's time to split the company in two, but doubt that will happen.) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
I don't know much about Steve Balmer's attitude and even thought he's made a foul of himself doing that monkey dance, I wouln't call a liability to the company based solely on that dance. But then again, I don't know much about his attitude in general. Maybe you can enlighten me. regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.
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From Microsoft's Presspass: Microsoft chairman Bill Gates transitioning out of company in 2008[^] Bill Gates will transition out of a day-to-day role in Microsoft effective July 2008 to spend more time on his global health and education work at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and will continue to serve as the company’s chairman and an advisor on key development projects. Ray Ozzie assumes the title of chief software architect and will begin working side by side with Gates on all technical architecture and product oversight responsibilities, while Craig Mundie takes the new title of chief research and strategy officer and will work closely with Gates to assume his responsibility for the company’s research and incubation efforts. -------------- TTFN - Kent
Well, with Microsoft's stock being lackluster for the last three years, something needs to change. It's probably a good idea actually, let newer/younger people start guiding the company with ideas. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
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I don't know much about Steve Balmer's attitude and even thought he's made a foul of himself doing that monkey dance, I wouln't call a liability to the company based solely on that dance. But then again, I don't know much about his attitude in general. Maybe you can enlighten me. regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.
Microsoft's stock has been declining for two years. Vista has gone way over schedule. The quality of Visual Studio 2006 is an embarassment. The company has a profound inability to come to grips with its legal problems, even if those legal problems are unfair in any way. The list goes on. Steve Balmer is the leader of this growing disaster. Blaming vice-presidents and shuffling around management is a poor attempt to divert attention from his failures as CEO. However effective he may be at making Microsoft employees feel about themselves, his first obligation is to the stockholders and customers of the company and in that he is becoming a failure. Worse, if Microsoft continues along its current course, it will start to lose those leaders who are genuinely talented and have a lot to offer--seriously, all other factors aside, who wants to be a wants to answer to CEO who runs around on the stage, sweating like a pig and screaming? Who wants to answer to a CEO who throws chairs across a room? Hey, I'm the first in line when it comes to being verbally passionate about my products, but I don't cross the line into craziness. I hasten to add that a bigger problem with Balmer screaming that he'll "kill Google" while throwing a chair across the room is that it illustrates just how poorly Balmer understands the current market and business situation. Google is a threat to Microsoft only because Microsoft lets them be by treating customers badly and churning out crap and then overcharging for it. Microsoft is a threat to itself because of its arrogance, typified by Balmer. (The hatred of Google is also very bad for business; Ray Noorda ran Novell into the ground in a personal vendetta against Microsoft [I worked there at the time.]) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Microsoft's stock has been declining for two years. Vista has gone way over schedule. The quality of Visual Studio 2006 is an embarassment. The company has a profound inability to come to grips with its legal problems, even if those legal problems are unfair in any way. The list goes on. Steve Balmer is the leader of this growing disaster. Blaming vice-presidents and shuffling around management is a poor attempt to divert attention from his failures as CEO. However effective he may be at making Microsoft employees feel about themselves, his first obligation is to the stockholders and customers of the company and in that he is becoming a failure. Worse, if Microsoft continues along its current course, it will start to lose those leaders who are genuinely talented and have a lot to offer--seriously, all other factors aside, who wants to be a wants to answer to CEO who runs around on the stage, sweating like a pig and screaming? Who wants to answer to a CEO who throws chairs across a room? Hey, I'm the first in line when it comes to being verbally passionate about my products, but I don't cross the line into craziness. I hasten to add that a bigger problem with Balmer screaming that he'll "kill Google" while throwing a chair across the room is that it illustrates just how poorly Balmer understands the current market and business situation. Google is a threat to Microsoft only because Microsoft lets them be by treating customers badly and churning out crap and then overcharging for it. Microsoft is a threat to itself because of its arrogance, typified by Balmer. (The hatred of Google is also very bad for business; Ray Noorda ran Novell into the ground in a personal vendetta against Microsoft [I worked there at the time.]) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Agreed! Jeremy Falcon
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Microsoft's stock has been declining for two years. Vista has gone way over schedule. The quality of Visual Studio 2006 is an embarassment. The company has a profound inability to come to grips with its legal problems, even if those legal problems are unfair in any way. The list goes on. Steve Balmer is the leader of this growing disaster. Blaming vice-presidents and shuffling around management is a poor attempt to divert attention from his failures as CEO. However effective he may be at making Microsoft employees feel about themselves, his first obligation is to the stockholders and customers of the company and in that he is becoming a failure. Worse, if Microsoft continues along its current course, it will start to lose those leaders who are genuinely talented and have a lot to offer--seriously, all other factors aside, who wants to be a wants to answer to CEO who runs around on the stage, sweating like a pig and screaming? Who wants to answer to a CEO who throws chairs across a room? Hey, I'm the first in line when it comes to being verbally passionate about my products, but I don't cross the line into craziness. I hasten to add that a bigger problem with Balmer screaming that he'll "kill Google" while throwing a chair across the room is that it illustrates just how poorly Balmer understands the current market and business situation. Google is a threat to Microsoft only because Microsoft lets them be by treating customers badly and churning out crap and then overcharging for it. Microsoft is a threat to itself because of its arrogance, typified by Balmer. (The hatred of Google is also very bad for business; Ray Noorda ran Novell into the ground in a personal vendetta against Microsoft [I worked there at the time.]) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
I wasn't aware of flying chairs, nor his criminal passions, but I felt his arogance and that certainly is not a good thing especially for someone who is supposed to be leading others. Thanks for the info. [edit] I agree that it's plain stupid to turn a business into a personal vendatta.[/edit] regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are. -- modified at 18:18 Thursday 15th June, 2006
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Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:
I think his departure from MS will not have any immediate or short-term impact on how and what MD does.
You're right, those Marylanders pretty much sail their own boat. God bless 'em for it, too. Charlie if(!curlies){ return; }
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Microsoft's stock has been declining for two years. Vista has gone way over schedule. The quality of Visual Studio 2006 is an embarassment. The company has a profound inability to come to grips with its legal problems, even if those legal problems are unfair in any way. The list goes on. Steve Balmer is the leader of this growing disaster. Blaming vice-presidents and shuffling around management is a poor attempt to divert attention from his failures as CEO. However effective he may be at making Microsoft employees feel about themselves, his first obligation is to the stockholders and customers of the company and in that he is becoming a failure. Worse, if Microsoft continues along its current course, it will start to lose those leaders who are genuinely talented and have a lot to offer--seriously, all other factors aside, who wants to be a wants to answer to CEO who runs around on the stage, sweating like a pig and screaming? Who wants to answer to a CEO who throws chairs across a room? Hey, I'm the first in line when it comes to being verbally passionate about my products, but I don't cross the line into craziness. I hasten to add that a bigger problem with Balmer screaming that he'll "kill Google" while throwing a chair across the room is that it illustrates just how poorly Balmer understands the current market and business situation. Google is a threat to Microsoft only because Microsoft lets them be by treating customers badly and churning out crap and then overcharging for it. Microsoft is a threat to itself because of its arrogance, typified by Balmer. (The hatred of Google is also very bad for business; Ray Noorda ran Novell into the ground in a personal vendetta against Microsoft [I worked there at the time.]) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Joe Woodbury wrote:
I hasten to add that a bigger problem with Balmer screaming that he'll "kill Google" while throwing a chair across the room is that it illustrates just how poorly Balmer understands the current market and business situation. Google is a threat to Microsoft only because Microsoft lets them be by treating customers badly and churning out crap and then overcharging for it. Microsoft is a threat to itself because of its arrogance, typified by Balmer.
Dead on.
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From Microsoft's Presspass: Microsoft chairman Bill Gates transitioning out of company in 2008[^] Bill Gates will transition out of a day-to-day role in Microsoft effective July 2008 to spend more time on his global health and education work at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and will continue to serve as the company’s chairman and an advisor on key development projects. Ray Ozzie assumes the title of chief software architect and will begin working side by side with Gates on all technical architecture and product oversight responsibilities, while Craig Mundie takes the new title of chief research and strategy officer and will work closely with Gates to assume his responsibility for the company’s research and incubation efforts. -------------- TTFN - Kent
Sure whatever, not like I have any stock in the company but Ray Ozzie? I mean come on Ray Ozzie the Useless Notes guy. Might as well let Steve Jobs run the company...
I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:
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From Microsoft's Presspass: Microsoft chairman Bill Gates transitioning out of company in 2008[^] Bill Gates will transition out of a day-to-day role in Microsoft effective July 2008 to spend more time on his global health and education work at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and will continue to serve as the company’s chairman and an advisor on key development projects. Ray Ozzie assumes the title of chief software architect and will begin working side by side with Gates on all technical architecture and product oversight responsibilities, while Craig Mundie takes the new title of chief research and strategy officer and will work closely with Gates to assume his responsibility for the company’s research and incubation efforts. -------------- TTFN - Kent
New generation rule Microsoft... Hmm, i wonder what Microsoft would be ? ;) "Courage choose who will follow, Fate choose who will lead" - Lord Gunner, Septerra Core "Press any key to continue, where's the ANY key ?" - Homer Simpsons Drinking gives me amazing powers of insight. I can solve all the worlds problems when drunk, but can never remember the solutions in the morning. - Michael P Butler to Paul Watson on 12/08/03
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Sure whatever, not like I have any stock in the company but Ray Ozzie? I mean come on Ray Ozzie the Useless Notes guy. Might as well let Steve Jobs run the company...
I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:
S Douglas wrote:
I mean come on Ray Ozzie the Useless Notes guy. Might as well let Steve Jobs run the company...
Well, why not? I'd bet, that even I could bring something new to the company! Don't judge until (Until bla=True :laugh:) you have some arguments or prove. New thinking is the way to go! Programming is like Mathematics… you take ONE step at the time! ;-)
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Sure whatever, not like I have any stock in the company but Ray Ozzie? I mean come on Ray Ozzie the Useless Notes guy. Might as well let Steve Jobs run the company...
I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:
S Douglas wrote:
Sure whatever, not like I have any stock in the company but Ray Ozzie?
At least it's not Scoble... :rolleyes:
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S Douglas wrote:
Sure whatever, not like I have any stock in the company but Ray Ozzie?
At least it's not Scoble... :rolleyes:
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Shog9 wrote:
At least it's not Scoble...
Yeah, he probably wouldn't do a very good job since he's not working there ;)
Ryan
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From Microsoft's Presspass: Microsoft chairman Bill Gates transitioning out of company in 2008[^] Bill Gates will transition out of a day-to-day role in Microsoft effective July 2008 to spend more time on his global health and education work at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and will continue to serve as the company’s chairman and an advisor on key development projects. Ray Ozzie assumes the title of chief software architect and will begin working side by side with Gates on all technical architecture and product oversight responsibilities, while Craig Mundie takes the new title of chief research and strategy officer and will work closely with Gates to assume his responsibility for the company’s research and incubation efforts. -------------- TTFN - Kent
Kent Sharkey wrote:
to spend more time on his global health and education work at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation,
Well, i think we should be glad that he will be devoting more of this time in a better clause.
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From Microsoft's Presspass: Microsoft chairman Bill Gates transitioning out of company in 2008[^] Bill Gates will transition out of a day-to-day role in Microsoft effective July 2008 to spend more time on his global health and education work at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and will continue to serve as the company’s chairman and an advisor on key development projects. Ray Ozzie assumes the title of chief software architect and will begin working side by side with Gates on all technical architecture and product oversight responsibilities, while Craig Mundie takes the new title of chief research and strategy officer and will work closely with Gates to assume his responsibility for the company’s research and incubation efforts. -------------- TTFN - Kent
Kent Sharkey wrote:
Whoa: No more Bill?
For a moment i thought you were talking about Bill SerGio[^] :-D
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Well, with Microsoft's stock being lackluster for the last three years, something needs to change. It's probably a good idea actually, let newer/younger people start guiding the company with ideas. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
Yes, because heaven knows that younger people are far superior to old dogs in every way imaginable. Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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S Douglas wrote:
Sure whatever, not like I have any stock in the company but Ray Ozzie?
At least it's not Scoble... :rolleyes:
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S Douglas wrote:
I mean come on Ray Ozzie the Useless Notes guy. Might as well let Steve Jobs run the company...
Well, why not? I'd bet, that even I could bring something new to the company! Don't judge until (Until bla=True :laugh:) you have some arguments or prove. New thinking is the way to go! Programming is like Mathematics… you take ONE step at the time! ;-)
KiloDunse**DK** wrote:
Don't judge until you have some arguments or prove.
[sarcasm] Ah clearly you have never had to use bloated notes. :mad: [/sarcasm]
KiloDunse**DK** wrote:
New thinking is the way to go!
Indeed, new innovative thinking is a very good thing, and something that is needed at Microsoft. What would have been wrong with Anders Hejlsberg the Delphi / C# guy?
I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:
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Shog9 wrote:
At least it's not Scoble
I'm not familiar with Scoble, what’s his claim to shame? :~
I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:
Blogger, recently left MS. Famous for being famous, near as i can tell...
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