drugs
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Anything that makes you slur words, stumble, pass out, vommit, halucinate, or slow your reflexes probably it's not the best thing for ya.... That's why it's illegal...that's why. "C++ will solve any problem."
Damn pregnant women.
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I don't agree with them at all, but why are they really against the law? Who cares of a drughead kills themselve on a OD or something? It's their life right? Why is it our place to tell them how to live it as long as they don't hurt anyone else? For that matter, alcohol and smokes are dugs too. Why are those ok and not others? It's like the govt. says you can only dope yourself up on this stuff and not that. Oh look, like magic we can tax this too because you can't grow it in your backyard. Jeremy Falcon
Totally agreed. The amount of wasted tax money chasing, arresting and locking up people who are committing victimless crimes (an adult who purchases a product without duress is in no way a victim) is pretty damn terrifying. The black market created through the narcotics trade also helps to fund an underclass - whole areas of large cities are dependent on the black market, often brutalising and alienating those who grow up in them. The argument that keeping them illegal sends out the correct message - that society disapproves of it is pretty poor, given the sheer numbers involved in the casual use of narcotics. I no longer use illicit drugs (except for Salvia Divinorum, very occasionally), I simply don't enjoy the lifestyle any more. Good scotch, decent beer and cigarettes(unfortunately) are another matter :) Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
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Christian Graus wrote:
The side effect is that drugs cost so much that addicts can't NOT hurt anyone else. Because there are limited legal means of making the money you need to support a habit.
Not to mention the stuff people do when under the influence of drugs. With alcohol, you can be drunk, moderately drunk, and you can be really drunk. With drugs, you are always going to be in a dangerous state - there's no "light" effect with drugs. Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)You are talking a load of crap. I have never been in a dangerous state having taken cocaine, speed, acid, or dope. OK, acid is pretty fucking strange, but dangerous you arent, not in the least, more like totally blown out by the sunrise etc. And as for coke and speed, if you want to meet the most boring person in the world, talk to someone on coke, they are so etgotistical all they can talk about is themselves. Dangerous? If being put to sleep by an egotist is dangerous then perhaps. Now for dope. Comatose, zoned out, dorked out, stoned, all these words might lead you to the impression that you actually dont feel like doing anything when you are stoned except watch TV, or listen to music or have slow sex. Dangerous? No fucking way. Now lets look at alcohol. Dangerous? Just lok at any British town center on friday and saturday night to see how alcohol causes serious violence. Oh, and by the way, you can have a 'light' effect with drugs. Its called having a small hit of dope, or a small line of speed etc. Nunc est bibendum
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I don't agree with them at all, but why are they really against the law? Who cares of a drughead kills themselve on a OD or something? It's their life right? Why is it our place to tell them how to live it as long as they don't hurt anyone else? For that matter, alcohol and smokes are dugs too. Why are those ok and not others? It's like the govt. says you can only dope yourself up on this stuff and not that. Oh look, like magic we can tax this too because you can't grow it in your backyard. Jeremy Falcon
So its OK for a drug user to do what they want in private but not OK for homosexuals? Anyway, sure, society is two-faced and a hypocrite. It tolerates alcohol, a very toxic drug, that causes a lot of problems, but bans dope. Speed was legal in the 50s, it was given to people to help them loose weight, and to soldiers to help stay awake. Cocaine was legal in the 19th century in the UK. In the 18th century, the UK went to war with China to protect its opium market. The UK was selling opium to the Chinesse! We were pushers! Just 150 years ago! Nunc est bibendum
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Christian Graus wrote:
Alcohol can induce more rage than a lot of drugs I can think of.
PCP comes to mind quickly. The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.
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So its OK for a drug user to do what they want in private but not OK for homosexuals? Anyway, sure, society is two-faced and a hypocrite. It tolerates alcohol, a very toxic drug, that causes a lot of problems, but bans dope. Speed was legal in the 50s, it was given to people to help them loose weight, and to soldiers to help stay awake. Cocaine was legal in the 19th century in the UK. In the 18th century, the UK went to war with China to protect its opium market. The UK was selling opium to the Chinesse! We were pushers! Just 150 years ago! Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
the UK went to war with China to protect its opium market.
It was slightly more complicated than that - Russia, France and the US were involved for one. But yeah, we were selling skag. Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
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Christian Graus wrote:
The side effect is that drugs cost so much that addicts can't NOT hurt anyone else. Because there are limited legal means of making the money you need to support a habit.
Not to mention the stuff people do when under the influence of drugs. With alcohol, you can be drunk, moderately drunk, and you can be really drunk. With drugs, you are always going to be in a dangerous state - there's no "light" effect with drugs. Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
there's no "light" effect with drugs.
utter bollox "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox
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You are talking a load of crap. I have never been in a dangerous state having taken cocaine, speed, acid, or dope. OK, acid is pretty fucking strange, but dangerous you arent, not in the least, more like totally blown out by the sunrise etc. And as for coke and speed, if you want to meet the most boring person in the world, talk to someone on coke, they are so etgotistical all they can talk about is themselves. Dangerous? If being put to sleep by an egotist is dangerous then perhaps. Now for dope. Comatose, zoned out, dorked out, stoned, all these words might lead you to the impression that you actually dont feel like doing anything when you are stoned except watch TV, or listen to music or have slow sex. Dangerous? No fucking way. Now lets look at alcohol. Dangerous? Just lok at any British town center on friday and saturday night to see how alcohol causes serious violence. Oh, and by the way, you can have a 'light' effect with drugs. Its called having a small hit of dope, or a small line of speed etc. Nunc est bibendum
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fat_boy wrote:
I have never been in a dangerous state having taken cocaine, speed, acid, or dope
:omg: You tried all of those ? :~ ~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Yes, I have never tried heroin or extasy. Oops, I forgot, I have taken mushrooms a few times. I only did acid twice though, it is a bizare drug, not exactly recreational in the way that dope or speed is. Anyway, so I am a walking advert for 'drugs are safe' in the right hands. With a little inteligence it is possible to controll the drug rasther than have the drug control you. Take smoking for example. Nothing like a fag and a beer in a pub. OK, chuck in a game of pool too. Even better. But smoking fucks you up. So I only smoke when I am in a pub drinking, which is perhaps once a week. ie, even the most addictive drug, nicotine, can easilly be controlled so why should I worry about taking cocaine or speed when I want to, say at a party one or twice a year. Nunc est bibendum
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fat_boy wrote:
I have never been in a dangerous state having taken cocaine, speed, acid, or dope
:omg: You tried all of those ? :~ ~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
I know plenty of people, including myself who have perfectly normal lives and often highly payed and skilled careers who have taken and continue to take all those and more. I took LSD and mushrooms pretty regularly for a few years (and do did Steve Wozniak, the damn hippie). Coke is a pain in the ass to be around though, never work for anyone with a Coke habit. Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
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Christian Graus wrote:
The side effect is that drugs cost so much that addicts can't NOT hurt anyone else. Because there are limited legal means of making the money you need to support a habit.
Not to mention the stuff people do when under the influence of drugs. With alcohol, you can be drunk, moderately drunk, and you can be really drunk. With drugs, you are always going to be in a dangerous state - there's no "light" effect with drugs. Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Score: 1.9 (5 votes).
Holy crap! I didn't know the Drug-Mafia frequented the Soapbox. :~ Regards, Nish
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Score: 1.9 (5 votes).
Holy crap! I didn't know the Drug-Mafia frequented the Soapbox. :~ Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Notice it's all the liberals? :laugh:
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I don't agree with them at all, but why are they really against the law? Who cares of a drughead kills themselve on a OD or something? It's their life right? Why is it our place to tell them how to live it as long as they don't hurt anyone else? For that matter, alcohol and smokes are dugs too. Why are those ok and not others? It's like the govt. says you can only dope yourself up on this stuff and not that. Oh look, like magic we can tax this too because you can't grow it in your backyard. Jeremy Falcon
In my life I've seen a 100% correlation between drug use and a significant decline in one's ability to cope with various aspects of life. That includes numerous people I've know who have done everything from pot to ecstasy, etc... Even though alcoholism can supposedly be pretty bad, I have never myself witnessed any ill effects (except for the temporary ones) that precipitated from its over-use. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen because it does, but there is just not the correlation to people who drink. Of course there's no correlation with smoking either. I don't know if people gravitate towards drugs because of a basic weakness in their life or if that weakness comes from drugs (i.e. I can't determine causality). But I can say with 100% certainty that in my personal experience there is a 100% correlation. I therefore support its restriction.
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Notice it's all the liberals? :laugh:
You missed one. ;P I don't smoke, don't do drugs (aside from morphine while I was in hospital in '03, and boy was that wierd. I can see where heroin addicts come from now), drink caffeine and alcohol in great moderation and have a largely vegetarian diet. Mind you I'm a transsexual lesbian, so what would I know? ;P Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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In my life I've seen a 100% correlation between drug use and a significant decline in one's ability to cope with various aspects of life. That includes numerous people I've know who have done everything from pot to ecstasy, etc... Even though alcoholism can supposedly be pretty bad, I have never myself witnessed any ill effects (except for the temporary ones) that precipitated from its over-use. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen because it does, but there is just not the correlation to people who drink. Of course there's no correlation with smoking either. I don't know if people gravitate towards drugs because of a basic weakness in their life or if that weakness comes from drugs (i.e. I can't determine causality). But I can say with 100% certainty that in my personal experience there is a 100% correlation. I therefore support its restriction.
espeir wrote:
Even though alcoholism can supposedly be pretty bad, I have never myself witnessed any ill effects (except for the temporary ones) that precipitated from its over-use. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen because it does, but there is just not the correlation to people who drink. Of course there's no correlation with smoking either.
A couple of years back I knew someone who was alcoholic. It was a frightening thing to see - not least because of his violent behaviour, particularly when he was trying to extort money to buy alcohol. I honestly wouldn't wish that experience on anyone. Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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You missed one. ;P I don't smoke, don't do drugs (aside from morphine while I was in hospital in '03, and boy was that wierd. I can see where heroin addicts come from now), drink caffeine and alcohol in great moderation and have a largely vegetarian diet. Mind you I'm a transsexual lesbian, so what would I know? ;P Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
Mind you I'm a transsexual lesbian, so what would I know?
Interestingly, and possibly semi-factually, most people would associate drugs and alcohol with a transsexual - it's all those movies I guess. People like you have to constantly disprove that idea I suppose. It's probably a little like how some people think that heavy metal fans are all devil worshippers. Regards, Nish
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You missed one. ;P I don't smoke, don't do drugs (aside from morphine while I was in hospital in '03, and boy was that wierd. I can see where heroin addicts come from now), drink caffeine and alcohol in great moderation and have a largely vegetarian diet. Mind you I'm a transsexual lesbian, so what would I know? ;P Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
I didn't say all the liberals are drug users. I said all the drug users are liberals.
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I don't agree with them at all, but why are they really against the law? Who cares of a drughead kills themselve on a OD or something? It's their life right? Why is it our place to tell them how to live it as long as they don't hurt anyone else? For that matter, alcohol and smokes are dugs too. Why are those ok and not others? It's like the govt. says you can only dope yourself up on this stuff and not that. Oh look, like magic we can tax this too because you can't grow it in your backyard. Jeremy Falcon
Interesting side fact here: Did you know that some medicines--pain meds--now cost so much that seniors are turning to illegal drugs such as meth to supplement their pain meds? It's a growing trend.
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espeir wrote:
Even though alcoholism can supposedly be pretty bad, I have never myself witnessed any ill effects (except for the temporary ones) that precipitated from its over-use. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen because it does, but there is just not the correlation to people who drink. Of course there's no correlation with smoking either.
A couple of years back I knew someone who was alcoholic. It was a frightening thing to see - not least because of his violent behaviour, particularly when he was trying to extort money to buy alcohol. I honestly wouldn't wish that experience on anyone. Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
I agree that it exists, but in my experience drugs have always caused personal downfalls while alcohol has been used primarily in a social context. Like I said, I think it may just take a weak person to turn to a chemical escape from reality (whether that be from alcohol or drugs) and perhaps drugs are just more effective so that's where people turn. Or it could be the opposite and drugs actually destroy people. I don't know which. However, I do believe that whether the decline of the soul begins before or after drug use, drugs inevitably accelerate (or create) the condition. If people turn instead to others for support (and access to chemical relief is restricted) they stand a good chance of bettering themselves rather than destroying themselves. Whether they choose to admit it or not, drugs prey on people with weak personalities...The type of people who need to be protected from themselves.
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In my life I've seen a 100% correlation between drug use and a significant decline in one's ability to cope with various aspects of life. That includes numerous people I've know who have done everything from pot to ecstasy, etc... Even though alcoholism can supposedly be pretty bad, I have never myself witnessed any ill effects (except for the temporary ones) that precipitated from its over-use. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen because it does, but there is just not the correlation to people who drink. Of course there's no correlation with smoking either. I don't know if people gravitate towards drugs because of a basic weakness in their life or if that weakness comes from drugs (i.e. I can't determine causality). But I can say with 100% certainty that in my personal experience there is a 100% correlation. I therefore support its restriction.
espeir wrote:
Even though alcoholism can supposedly be pretty bad, I have never myself witnessed any ill effects (except for the temporary ones) that precipitated from its over-use. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen because it does, but there is just not the correlation to people who drink
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