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  • N Nish Nishant

    It's hard to judge politeness across different cultures. I can't speak for all of India, but people in my state don't say thank you, sorry, please etc all that often - that is not part of our language system. The Malayalam equivalents of those words are only used formally. Similarly opening doors for others is not something people do - if you tried to do that, you'd just get a lot of curious glances. When I first worked abroad, I was quite surprised by how often people would say "how are you" to you, and then they'd walk away without waiting for an answer. Initially I thought this was pretty weird and that this was a sort of pseudo-politeness. Later I got used to it. It's pretty much the same in Toronto. People just wish you well, and ask you how you are, and walk away without waiting for a conversation - it's a different sort of culture from what we have back in India. Eventually, you have to understand how a society behaves, before judging how polite or rude people are. I still haven't fully got used to the Canadian politeness, and I am sure most people find me pretty rude and weird - specially on the phone. Oh well - I have to work on it. So, thanks a lot to everyone for reading my post, and I hope you are all in good health, and sorry if I took away your time, and thanks once again. :rolleyes: Regards, Nish


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    Jun Du
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    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

    People just wish you well, and ask you how you are, and walk away without waiting for a conversation - it's a different sort of culture from what we have back in India.

    Talking about culture. In China, people wish you well by saying "Have you eaten?"

    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

    So, thanks a lot to everyone for reading my post, and I hope you are all in good health, and sorry if I took away your time, and thanks once again.

    You sound like pretty Canadian.:) Best, Jun

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    • N Nish Nishant

      Josh Smith wrote:

      I live in NYC.

      Cool to hear that. Could you recommend some good places to see, if someone's coming for a 2 day visit? Unless I get tied up with some work, we are planning on visiting New York city on a long weekend. What would ne the top 3-4 places we should go to, in your opinion? I guess we'd need to see the Statue of Liberty, and perhaps walk around Time Square. Any others? Regards, Nish


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      Who is we? A bunch of booze-crazed bachelors? A group of Christian rockers? A nuclear family? :) Once I have some context, I should be able to help ya'll out. Cheers, Josh

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      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

        There is no way NYC is more polite than Atlanta or Charleston. Charleston was declared to be the most polite city in USA in one of the previous surveys.


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        Christopher Duncan
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        I've lived in Atlanta since 93, so I obviously like the people here, too. :) Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes

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          I've lived in Atlanta since 93, so I obviously like the people here, too. :) Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes

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          Nish Nishant
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          Christopher Duncan wrote:

          I've lived in Atlanta since 93, so I obviously like the people here, too.

          Looks like you like the whole world :-) Regards, Nish


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          • J Jeremy Falcon

            Josh Smith wrote:

            polite. Hell, I don't expect people to be pleasant when they're crammed face to face with a bunch of other strangers at 8 am in a subway train that smells like god-knows-what.

            Well, NYC isn't the only place with congestion. I don't see that being a real excuse for being rude. With that being said. I have had my fair share of bitching when stuck in traffic. But then again, I'm not nice. :) Jeremy Falcon

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            Josh Smith
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            Jeremy Falcon wrote:

            I don't see that being a real excuse for being rude.

            Nor do I, but it seems to suffice around here! :-D

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            • J Josh Smith

              Who is we? A bunch of booze-crazed bachelors? A group of Christian rockers? A nuclear family? :) Once I have some context, I should be able to help ya'll out. Cheers, Josh

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              Nish Nishant
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              Josh Smith wrote:

              Who is we? A bunch of booze-crazed bachelors? A group of Christian rockers? A nuclear family?

              Me, and my wife, Smitha :-) Her cousin and his wife might also be there (they are in Corning, NY). Regards, Nish


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                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                I've lived in Atlanta since 93, so I obviously like the people here, too.

                Looks like you like the whole world :-) Regards, Nish


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                He's such a shiny happy person... ;)

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                  He's such a shiny happy person... ;)

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  Shog9 wrote:

                  He's such a shiny happy person...

                  I've seen him once - but he was a little drunk then, and there were too many people. But yeah, he was a nice shiny person alright - I was surprised to see him in a leather jacket and all that. I had sorta imagined him to be the sort of person who'd always be seen in public in a formal suit :-) Regards, Nish


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                    Josh Smith wrote:

                    I live in NYC.

                    Cool to hear that. Could you recommend some good places to see, if someone's coming for a 2 day visit? Unless I get tied up with some work, we are planning on visiting New York city on a long weekend. What would ne the top 3-4 places we should go to, in your opinion? I guess we'd need to see the Statue of Liberty, and perhaps walk around Time Square. Any others? Regards, Nish


                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                    Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                    Christopher Duncan
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                    Screw the tourist traps. Go to Famous Rays Pizza, 6th Avenue & 11th. You'll get pizza on a paper plate, there probably won't be enough room to sit in side so you'll have to sit on the sidewalk outside and lean against the wall, but it's the most outstanding pizza on the planet! I mean, you're a programmer, right? Let's get your priorities straight. :-D Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes

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                    • R Red Stateler

                      Baghdad didn't make the list??? :confused:

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                      Chris Meech
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                      You need to adjust your glasses. :) The word was Polite City not Police City. :-D Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] When no one was looking, every single American woman between the ages of 18 and 32 went out and got a tatoo just above their rumpus. [link[^]]

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                        He's such a shiny happy person... ;)

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                        Christopher Duncan
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                        Shog9 wrote:

                        He's such a shiny happy person...

                        Bite me. ;) Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes

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                        • N Nish Nishant

                          Josh Smith wrote:

                          Who is we? A bunch of booze-crazed bachelors? A group of Christian rockers? A nuclear family?

                          Me, and my wife, Smitha :-) Her cousin and his wife might also be there (they are in Corning, NY). Regards, Nish


                          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                          Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                          Josh Smith
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                          Ok, I'll ask a few more questions, just to make sure that I have a rough idea of what you might like. A. List your top three or four priorities: 1) Fine dining 2) Theater 3) Concerts (mention preferred genres) 4) Museums 5) City Tours 6) Misc/Unusual 7) Night life/clubs 8) Book/Music Stores 9) Other (mention what) B. Have you or Smitha been to NYC before? If so, when? Where did you visit? C. Where will you be staying? Is this unknown? Does the hotel you stay in matter a lot, or would you prefer to spend more on activities? D. Do you drink? If so, what type of drinks do you prefer? Josh

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                            Shog9 wrote:

                            He's such a shiny happy person...

                            I've seen him once - but he was a little drunk then, and there were too many people. But yeah, he was a nice shiny person alright - I was surprised to see him in a leather jacket and all that. I had sorta imagined him to be the sort of person who'd always be seen in public in a formal suit :-) Regards, Nish


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                            Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                            Christopher Duncan
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                            Nope, not a formal suit kinda guy, only wear them when required. A little drunk? Nish, you have a gift for understatement. Still, we had fun, didn't we? :-D Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes

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                              Christopher Duncan wrote:

                              I've lived in Atlanta since 93, so I obviously like the people here, too.

                              Looks like you like the whole world :-) Regards, Nish


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                              Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                              Christopher Duncan
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                              Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                              Looks like you like the whole world

                              There's plenty of people and places I can do without, but I try hard to practice the "Mother's Rule" - if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. Probably explains those times I sat quietly in yet another pointless meeting. :) Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes

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                              • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                Chadlling wrote:

                                New York City

                                :omg: Have they heard NYC is called "home of the rude"? I worked there for a year, and must say there is a lot of truth in it.


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                                Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                                Have they heard NYC is called "home of the rude"? I worked there for a year, and must say there is a lot of truth in it.

                                Any culture that you don't sufficiently understand will appear strange and rude to you. That said, within any culture there's a fair proportion of jerks. Maybe your magnet is just polarized the wrong way. :-D Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes

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                                • J jith iii

                                  Rob Graham wrote:

                                  Yea, the locals just politely remove your head

                                  Or you would be shot down by US millitary.Very friendly,service minded folks:->

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                                  Jeremy Falcon
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                                  jithAtran - ii wrote:

                                  Very friendly,service minded folks

                                  They are, until you try and chop off their heads. ;P Jeremy Falcon

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                                  • J Josh Smith

                                    Ok, I'll ask a few more questions, just to make sure that I have a rough idea of what you might like. A. List your top three or four priorities: 1) Fine dining 2) Theater 3) Concerts (mention preferred genres) 4) Museums 5) City Tours 6) Misc/Unusual 7) Night life/clubs 8) Book/Music Stores 9) Other (mention what) B. Have you or Smitha been to NYC before? If so, when? Where did you visit? C. Where will you be staying? Is this unknown? Does the hotel you stay in matter a lot, or would you prefer to spend more on activities? D. Do you drink? If so, what type of drinks do you prefer? Josh

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                                    Nish Nishant
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                                    Josh Smith wrote:

                                    A. List your top three or four priorities:

                                    1. Fine dining 5) City Tours 9) Other - see major landmarks like the Staue of Liberty 4) Museums

                                    Josh Smith wrote:

                                    B. Have you or Smitha been to NYC before? If so, when? Where did you visit?

                                    Nope. This will be the first time.

                                    Josh Smith wrote:

                                    C. Where will you be staying? Is this unknown? Does the hotel you stay in matter a lot, or would you prefer to spend more on activities?

                                    Most likely in a hotel. Hotel would be just a place to sleep at - so we are not looking for a great hotel with a lot of facilities. We may also be staying with a friend (not sure on that though).

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                                    D. Do you drink? If so, what type of drinks do you prefer?

                                    I do. I love trying out various varieties of cocktails. Regards, Nish


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                                    • N Nish Nishant

                                      It's hard to judge politeness across different cultures. I can't speak for all of India, but people in my state don't say thank you, sorry, please etc all that often - that is not part of our language system. The Malayalam equivalents of those words are only used formally. Similarly opening doors for others is not something people do - if you tried to do that, you'd just get a lot of curious glances. When I first worked abroad, I was quite surprised by how often people would say "how are you" to you, and then they'd walk away without waiting for an answer. Initially I thought this was pretty weird and that this was a sort of pseudo-politeness. Later I got used to it. It's pretty much the same in Toronto. People just wish you well, and ask you how you are, and walk away without waiting for a conversation - it's a different sort of culture from what we have back in India. Eventually, you have to understand how a society behaves, before judging how polite or rude people are. I still haven't fully got used to the Canadian politeness, and I am sure most people find me pretty rude and weird - specially on the phone. Oh well - I have to work on it. So, thanks a lot to everyone for reading my post, and I hope you are all in good health, and sorry if I took away your time, and thanks once again. :rolleyes: Regards, Nish


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                                      Dustin Metzgar
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                                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                      The Malayalam equivalents of those words are only used formally.

                                      <cheesy_joke>Are those words all palindromes too?</cheesy_joke>


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                                        Nope, not a formal suit kinda guy, only wear them when required. A little drunk? Nish, you have a gift for understatement. Still, we had fun, didn't we? :-D Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes

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                                        Nish Nishant
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                                        Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                        A little drunk? Nish, you have a gift for understatement.

                                        Trying to be polite like a New Yorker there :rolleyes:

                                        Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                        Still, we had fun, didn't we?

                                        Yep, we did :-D Regards, Nish


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                                        • D Dustin Metzgar

                                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                          The Malayalam equivalents of those words are only used formally.

                                          <cheesy_joke>Are those words all palindromes too?</cheesy_joke>


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                                          Nish Nishant
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                                          Dustin Metzgar wrote:

                                          Are those words all palindromes too?

                                          Some words may be, if transliterated and spelled out in English :-) Regards, Nish


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