The Most Polite City
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It's hard to judge politeness across different cultures. I can't speak for all of India, but people in my state don't say thank you, sorry, please etc all that often - that is not part of our language system. The Malayalam equivalents of those words are only used formally. Similarly opening doors for others is not something people do - if you tried to do that, you'd just get a lot of curious glances. When I first worked abroad, I was quite surprised by how often people would say "how are you" to you, and then they'd walk away without waiting for an answer. Initially I thought this was pretty weird and that this was a sort of pseudo-politeness. Later I got used to it. It's pretty much the same in Toronto. People just wish you well, and ask you how you are, and walk away without waiting for a conversation - it's a different sort of culture from what we have back in India. Eventually, you have to understand how a society behaves, before judging how polite or rude people are. I still haven't fully got used to the Canadian politeness, and I am sure most people find me pretty rude and weird - specially on the phone. Oh well - I have to work on it. So, thanks a lot to everyone for reading my post, and I hope you are all in good health, and sorry if I took away your time, and thanks once again. :rolleyes: Regards, Nish
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Having experienced both, let me first say that in order to appreciate the warmth of New Yorkers you have to take their interaction within the context of their culture, not yours. Once you do, you'll find them warm and friendly folks. My brief visit to Toronto left me with the impression of not only incredibly polite and welcoming people, but the cleanest major city I've ever seen. The subways didn't have a scratch on them, and you could eat off the floors. Having never visited India I know nothing of the cities and social experience there, but all in all, Toronto and NYC are two of my favorite cities. I miss the folks in both. Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
Christopher Duncan wrote:
you have to take their interaction within the context of their culture, not yours
Very true and applicable to many situations. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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I have visited New York a couple of dozen time and I have lived my whole life in Toronto. I would say people in New York are definitely friendlier than Torontonians, although Torontonians might be slightly more polite. The only Americans who AREN'T friendly and polite are New Englanders. New York is way more friendly than Boston.
Chadlling wrote:
The only Americans who AREN'T friendly and polite are New Englanders. New York is way more friendly than Boston.
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense to make a generalization about how "friendly and polite" millions of people are. X|
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According to this unscientific study two of the 3 most polite cities in the world are in North America... New York City and Toronto. Indian cities were at the bottom of the list with Mumbai coming in last. [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap\_travel/20060621/ap\_tr\_ge/travel\_briefs\_polite\_cities](<a href=)[^]" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_travel/20060621/ap_tr_ge/travel_briefs_polite_cities[^][[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap\_travel/20060621/ap\_tr\_ge/travel\_briefs\_polite\_cities](<a href= "New Window")[^]">^]
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
I was surprised to see him in a leather jacket and all that
He is in a letahre jacket in his pict . I was surprised he did not have a leash.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
I was surprised he did not have a leash.
:laugh: Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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> So, thanks a lot to everyone for reading my post, and I hope you are all in good health, and sorry if I > took away your time, and thanks once again [Walks away before responding...] :rolleyes:
Daniel Desormeaux wrote:
[Walks away before responding...] :rolleyes:
:laugh: Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New) -
Having experienced both, let me first say that in order to appreciate the warmth of New Yorkers you have to take their interaction within the context of their culture, not yours. Once you do, you'll find them warm and friendly folks. My brief visit to Toronto left me with the impression of not only incredibly polite and welcoming people, but the cleanest major city I've ever seen. The subways didn't have a scratch on them, and you could eat off the floors. Having never visited India I know nothing of the cities and social experience there, but all in all, Toronto and NYC are two of my favorite cities. I miss the folks in both. Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
When this came on the TV the other night, my father in law said 'singapore' ( before they said who it was ) and I said no, I reckon it's in the USA. Singapore was fine, and people were OK. But when I was in the USA I was often taken by how polite and friendly people were. They were the same in Canada, but I was with Nish and I figured that his legend preceded me :-) Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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When this came on the TV the other night, my father in law said 'singapore' ( before they said who it was ) and I said no, I reckon it's in the USA. Singapore was fine, and people were OK. But when I was in the USA I was often taken by how polite and friendly people were. They were the same in Canada, but I was with Nish and I figured that his legend preceded me :-) Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Singapore? Ask anyone who's been there for more than a few weeks holiday and you'll find 90% of them will say no. They're so infamous for being selfish and arrogant. IMO, Thailand would be one of the friendliest and most polite countries in the world. "Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner" - Ross Edbert Sydney, Australia
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Josh Smith wrote:
A. List your top three or four priorities:
- Fine dining 5) City Tours 9) Other - see major landmarks like the Staue of Liberty 4) Museums
Josh Smith wrote:
B. Have you or Smitha been to NYC before? If so, when? Where did you visit?
Nope. This will be the first time.
Josh Smith wrote:
C. Where will you be staying? Is this unknown? Does the hotel you stay in matter a lot, or would you prefer to spend more on activities?
Most likely in a hotel. Hotel would be just a place to sleep at - so we are not looking for a great hotel with a lot of facilities. We may also be staying with a friend (not sure on that though).
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D. Do you drink? If so, what type of drinks do you prefer?
I do. I love trying out various varieties of cocktails. Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)The first thing I recommend is that you get yourself a copy of The NFT Guide (Not For Tourists)[^] This is the guide book that many New Yorkers use to explore the city they live in! It is much better than any other guide book for NYC that I've ever seen. A.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
- Fine dining 5) City Tours 9) Other - see major landmarks like the Staue of Liberty 4) Museums
Fine Dining) My personal favorites: Blue Smoke - BBQ/Jazz[^] Zutto - Japanese food[^] Sparks - Steakhouse[^] You can also get a lot of great Indian cuisine in "Indian Alley", which is on 6th street between Avenues 1 and 2. City Tours) I've heard that this[^] place is good for tours. They provide helicopter and boat tours as well as regular bus tours, which sound really cool. Never tried it, though, so don't bark it me if they suck. :) Other) Whatever you don't see on your tour(s), consult your copy of the NFT book for info about getting to the landmarks you are interested in. Museums) Consult NFT for overviews of the musuems. But the Museum of Natural History is awesome. I've heard that the Bodies Exhibition[^] is extremely cool from many people. I'm going to check it out soon. B & C. Since you've never been to NYC before, I recommend staying either in the city or very close to it. There is so much to do here that it would be a shame to spend chunks of time traveling to/from your hote
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jithAtran - ii wrote:
Very friendly,service minded folks
They are, until you try and chop off their heads. ;P Jeremy Falcon
so are iraquies, until you try to invade their country... same thing A polar bear is a bear whose coordinates has been changed in terms of sine and cosine.
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The first thing I recommend is that you get yourself a copy of The NFT Guide (Not For Tourists)[^] This is the guide book that many New Yorkers use to explore the city they live in! It is much better than any other guide book for NYC that I've ever seen. A.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
- Fine dining 5) City Tours 9) Other - see major landmarks like the Staue of Liberty 4) Museums
Fine Dining) My personal favorites: Blue Smoke - BBQ/Jazz[^] Zutto - Japanese food[^] Sparks - Steakhouse[^] You can also get a lot of great Indian cuisine in "Indian Alley", which is on 6th street between Avenues 1 and 2. City Tours) I've heard that this[^] place is good for tours. They provide helicopter and boat tours as well as regular bus tours, which sound really cool. Never tried it, though, so don't bark it me if they suck. :) Other) Whatever you don't see on your tour(s), consult your copy of the NFT book for info about getting to the landmarks you are interested in. Museums) Consult NFT for overviews of the musuems. But the Museum of Natural History is awesome. I've heard that the Bodies Exhibition[^] is extremely cool from many people. I'm going to check it out soon. B & C. Since you've never been to NYC before, I recommend staying either in the city or very close to it. There is so much to do here that it would be a shame to spend chunks of time traveling to/from your hote
Thanks Josh. That was really useful information. Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
let me first say that in order to appreciate the warmth of New Yorkers you have to take their interaction within the context of their culture
What exactly is that? Down here we have a thing called southern hospitality, and all the people I've ever known says New Yorks aren't friendly - including my own brother. Granted, as you say it could be a culture thing, but I'm curious to know what that entails.
Christopher Duncan wrote:
but the cleanest major city I've ever seen.
Too bad I can't say that about New Orleans. :sigh: We have beautiful architecture mixed with some, lovely trash on the side of the road because lazy people litter too damn much. Kinda makes me want to visit, but I'll just take your word on the eating off the subway floor bit. :-D:-D:-D Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Christopher Duncan wrote: let me first say that in order to appreciate the warmth of New Yorkers you have to take their interaction within the context of their culture What exactly is that? Down here we have a thing called southern hospitality, and all the people I've ever known says New Yorks aren't friendly - including my own brother. Granted, as you say it could be a culture thing, but I'm curious to know what that entails.
Well, I've been in Nashville for 10 1/2 years now and "Southern Hospitality" is simply means that they are more polite than New Yorkers when telling you off. i.e. Q. What's "Southern" for "are you crazy?" A. "Bless your heart." Q. What "New York" (actually Northeast) for "are you crazy?" A. "You're crazy you -expletive- -expletive- -expletive- I personally prefer that latter because New Yorkers leave no doubt as to whether they like you or not. "Southern Hospitality" sometimes leaves you guessing what they really think.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Christopher Duncan wrote: but the cleanest major city I've ever seen. Too bad I can't say that about New Orleans. We have beautiful architecture mixed with some, lovely trash on the side of the road because lazy people litter too damn much. Kinda makes me want to visit, but I'll just take your word on the eating off the subway floor bit. Jeremy Falcon
Andrew C. Eisenberg Nashville, TN, USA (a.k.a. Music City USA) (Yes Virginia, there are rock and roll stations in Nashville! :laugh:)
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Christopher Duncan wrote: let me first say that in order to appreciate the warmth of New Yorkers you have to take their interaction within the context of their culture What exactly is that? Down here we have a thing called southern hospitality, and all the people I've ever known says New Yorks aren't friendly - including my own brother. Granted, as you say it could be a culture thing, but I'm curious to know what that entails.
Well, I've been in Nashville for 10 1/2 years now and "Southern Hospitality" is simply means that they are more polite than New Yorkers when telling you off. i.e. Q. What's "Southern" for "are you crazy?" A. "Bless your heart." Q. What "New York" (actually Northeast) for "are you crazy?" A. "You're crazy you -expletive- -expletive- -expletive- I personally prefer that latter because New Yorkers leave no doubt as to whether they like you or not. "Southern Hospitality" sometimes leaves you guessing what they really think.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Christopher Duncan wrote: but the cleanest major city I've ever seen. Too bad I can't say that about New Orleans. We have beautiful architecture mixed with some, lovely trash on the side of the road because lazy people litter too damn much. Kinda makes me want to visit, but I'll just take your word on the eating off the subway floor bit. Jeremy Falcon
Andrew C. Eisenberg Nashville, TN, USA (a.k.a. Music City USA) (Yes Virginia, there are rock and roll stations in Nashville! :laugh:)
Andrew Eisenberg wrote:
I personally prefer that latter because New Yorkers leave no doubt as to whether they like you or not. "Southern Hospitality" sometimes leaves you guessing what they really think.
:-D Jeremy Falcon