Why are there so few girls in programming?
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I'm not sure how the trend started, but since this trend is already established, as a girl you'd have to resign yourself to working with male programmers, and the stereotype of the average male programmer probably isn't appealing to most women.
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Without a doubt that's the case. 5. :rose: Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
there was more ethnic diversity in the lecturers
That may be because Great Britain and Germany have less ethnical diversity than the US. Less diversity in the overall country must result in less diversity in each class. ;)
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I stopped after 4 years of school.
Why? School is fun! You meet other people who are just as strange as you are. :cool: _____________________________________________________________________________ I don't expect too much, all I want is your vote for Halbsichtigkeit.
Corinna John wrote:
Why? School is fun! You meet other people who are just as strange as you are.
Myself and two classmates co-founded a company together developing software. It was a curious childhood ambition to run a software company. Now, I've done that my ambition is to run a successful software company. ;)
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Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming. I'm not very good at it yet, but I do like it. I've done research on women in science and the number of girls going into "computer" (whether programming, IT, etc.) keeps dropping significantly every year. For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.) But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers? Other girls please give your feedback!
It's because women have the "cook, sew, and clean" gene, and the men have the "work for a living" gene. Seriously, though... It's been scientifically proven that the female brain is wired differently than the male brain. As a rule, women don't use the analytical side of their brain as much as men do (and no, I don't know why that is). Also, female reaction times to external stimuli are generally slower (that's why they generally cost less to insure). It's not that they can't be programmers - it's that they don't want to be. Could it be how they're raised? Get married, have kids, blah blah blah. Don't know... [edit] And if I'm going to get one's I might as well earn them... Women who used to be men are still men in their brain, so the circuitry is the same, no matter how many operations they have... I wish I had a cherry to put on this thread, because that pretty much says it all, unless someone comes up with the universal thread closer, "neener neener neener", but I think that's a little out of context. [/edit]
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Same here. Out of 120 or so in my year, there were only about 5 of us (though I was undercover at the time!). Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
(though I was undercover at the time!).
:laugh::laugh: Man that was funny
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Without a doubt that's the case. 5. :rose: Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
Are you commenting on this from the viewpoint of a female?
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
(though I was undercover at the time!).
:laugh::laugh: Man that was funny
**You know you're obsessed with computer graphics when you're outside and you look up at the trees and think, "Wow! That's spectacular resolution!"
Only kings, presidents, editors, and people with tapeworms have the right to use the editorial "we."**
Life is full of little surprises. ;) Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Are you commenting on this from the viewpoint of a female?
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001As much as you are commenting from the viewpoint of a biggotted troll. :mad: Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Men are better at being obessive than women? :rolleyes: The tigress is here :-D
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leckey wrote:
is it Pakistani or Pakistanian?)
I think Pakistani.
leckey wrote:
why do so many Indian students come to the US for engineering? Are the universities in India considered subpar?
There many reasons. Number of engineering students in India is very high. And very small percentage of these students come to US for higher education, and most of them generally goes to well reputed US schools. Now there are some excellent engineering schools in India, but many many new government and private eng. colleges are opening every year too. And most of them are not very subpar with these US universities. Another reason is for the students who wants to immigrate to US and get a good job, getting a US degree is the best choice. Ankita
Ankita, Are you an immigrant now (GC holder)? Or still on a work Visa? Just curious because of your last sentence where you said students who wish to immigrate do a Masters in the US to help the process. Regards, Nish
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leckey wrote:
not trying to be desperate for attention!
On a site that's 99.99% guys? That's tough to believe. Jeremy Falcon
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leckey wrote:
Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming.
Sorry, i don't buy it. Hardly any girls like programming, everyone knows that - but plenty of programmers like to play fast and lose with the sex of their online personas. I suspect you are merely one of the latter... :suss:
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Shog9 wrote:
Sorry, i don't buy it. Hardly any girls like programming, everyone knows that - but plenty of programmers like to play fast and lose with the sex of their online personas. I suspect you are merely one of the latter...
:laugh: Regards, Nish
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Most of the other girls who were with me (usually 2 or 3) were Indian/Pakistani (is it Pakistani or Pakistanian?) My alma matter has a large Indian student population. Most of the girls are engineering of some kind. I hired on Indian female grad student at my last job and she was just the nicest. But I have a question, why do so many Indian students come to the US for engineering? Are the universities in India considered subpar? I'm curious.
leckey wrote:
But I have a question, why do so many Indian students come to the US for engineering?
The number of "good" higher education institutions in India are not that high. So, most people try and get their Masters done in the US (or Canada, UK). BTW, when I did my under grad, my class had 54 students out of which there were 25 girls and 29 guys - so the ratio was kinda even. Regards, Nish
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But still the number is pretty less if you think about programming. Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal
apurva kaushal wrote:
Apurva Kaushal
Sorry of this a dumb question. Is Apurva a gender-neutral name? It sounds feminine to me, but I believe guys use the name too? Regards, Nish
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As much as you are commenting from the viewpoint of a biggotted troll. :mad: Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
I'm not a bigot, and you're not a female. Now that we have that out of the way...
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Ankita, Are you an immigrant now (GC holder)? Or still on a work Visa? Just curious because of your last sentence where you said students who wish to immigrate do a Masters in the US to help the process. Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Nish, No, I am on work visa. Honestly, I am not even sure what was the reason for me to come to US. When I graduated there were no jobs in India for a computer graduate. And I had already made up my mind for further studies. Options for me were to do MBA or go for MS in computers. And as you said in your other reply there were not many good schools for that. And it was easier (less amount of time spent in preparation to get the admission) get admitted in one of the good US schools than IIT or IIM. :-O Ankita
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I'm not a bigot, and you're not a female. Now that we have that out of the way...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Wrong on both counts. Can't you ever give it a rest John? Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Nish, No, I am on work visa. Honestly, I am not even sure what was the reason for me to come to US. When I graduated there were no jobs in India for a computer graduate. And I had already made up my mind for further studies. Options for me were to do MBA or go for MS in computers. And as you said in your other reply there were not many good schools for that. And it was easier (less amount of time spent in preparation to get the admission) get admitted in one of the good US schools than IIT or IIM. :-O Ankita
ankita patel wrote:
When I graduated there were no jobs in India for a computer graduate.
Interesting - what year did you graduate? I know it's impolite to ask a lady something that might indicate her age. So you can give me a year range if you prefer that :-)
ankita patel wrote:
And it was easier (less amount of time spent in preparation to get the admission) get admitted in one of the good US schools than IIT or IIM.
Yep - definitely easier :-) Regards, Nish
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ankita patel wrote:
When I graduated there were no jobs in India for a computer graduate.
Interesting - what year did you graduate? I know it's impolite to ask a lady something that might indicate her age. So you can give me a year range if you prefer that :-)
ankita patel wrote:
And it was easier (less amount of time spent in preparation to get the admission) get admitted in one of the good US schools than IIT or IIM.
Yep - definitely easier :-) Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)I graduated in June 2001. Almost everybody in my class who got a job through the campus interviews, got cancellation or deferral letter by the time we graduated.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
I know it's impolite to ask a lady something that might indicate her age. So you can give me a year range if you prefer that
This reminds of a friend in undergrad. It was the first lecture of one of the classes in first year. And prof. referred to us few girls sitting in the front row as ladies and one of my friends objected instantly telling prof. to call us girls not ladies :laugh: Ankita
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I graduated in June 2001. Almost everybody in my class who got a job through the campus interviews, got cancellation or deferral letter by the time we graduated.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
I know it's impolite to ask a lady something that might indicate her age. So you can give me a year range if you prefer that
This reminds of a friend in undergrad. It was the first lecture of one of the classes in first year. And prof. referred to us few girls sitting in the front row as ladies and one of my friends objected instantly telling prof. to call us girls not ladies :laugh: Ankita
ankita patel wrote:
I graduated in June 2001. Almost everybody in my class who got a job through the campus interviews, got cancellation or deferral letter by the time we graduated.
Ah yes, I remember. That was the year of deferrals.
ankita patel wrote:
This reminds of a friend in undergrad. It was the first lecture of one of the classes in first year. And prof. referred to us few girls sitting in the front row as ladies and one of my friends objected instantly telling prof. to call us girls not ladies
There you go. Now you know why I hesitated in asking you for the graduation year :-) Regards, Nish
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