I think I'm defective...
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I seem to have a problem with regard to layout of the software I write, regardless of whether it is a web application or desktop (especially desktop). Deciding whether to use tabs, mdi, left menu bar, let alone how to group my functionality (what do I put on the tabs), etc. I can bring in someone who has no clue about software development and they seem to be able to just come up with it without any difficulty. Maybe I'm too close to the code and therefore just can't see things from a user perspective. Is there anything out there that will help me? :confused:
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I seem to have a problem with regard to layout of the software I write, regardless of whether it is a web application or desktop (especially desktop). Deciding whether to use tabs, mdi, left menu bar, let alone how to group my functionality (what do I put on the tabs), etc. I can bring in someone who has no clue about software development and they seem to be able to just come up with it without any difficulty. Maybe I'm too close to the code and therefore just can't see things from a user perspective. Is there anything out there that will help me? :confused:
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I seem to have a problem with regard to layout of the software I write, regardless of whether it is a web application or desktop (especially desktop). Deciding whether to use tabs, mdi, left menu bar, let alone how to group my functionality (what do I put on the tabs), etc. I can bring in someone who has no clue about software development and they seem to be able to just come up with it without any difficulty. Maybe I'm too close to the code and therefore just can't see things from a user perspective. Is there anything out there that will help me? :confused:
It just takes practice. I have had much trouble with that as well. Don't get bumbed. I really only do web apps anymore and generally what I try to do is keep it simple. Only one browser window at a time, no popups (only if really necessary), and not to much on one page just keep redirecting. You can always ask a user as well. I try to ask them as much as I can. how vital enterprise application are for proactive organizations leveraging collective synergy to think outside the box and formulate their key objectives into a win-win game plan with a quality-driven approach that focuses on empowering key players to drive-up their core competencies and increase expectations with an all-around initiative to drive up the bottom-line. But of course, that's all a "high level" overview of things --thedailywtf 3/21/06
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I seem to have a problem with regard to layout of the software I write, regardless of whether it is a web application or desktop (especially desktop). Deciding whether to use tabs, mdi, left menu bar, let alone how to group my functionality (what do I put on the tabs), etc. I can bring in someone who has no clue about software development and they seem to be able to just come up with it without any difficulty. Maybe I'm too close to the code and therefore just can't see things from a user perspective. Is there anything out there that will help me? :confused:
webguy55 wrote:
Is there anything out there that will help me?
Alcohol! Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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Michael P Butler wrote:
I've found it is best to keep the interface simple and focused on the task that the user is trying to perform.
Mostly true - but most Office versions since Office XP, partly owe their success to new complicated but fancy looking user interfaces. Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New) -
I seem to have a problem with regard to layout of the software I write, regardless of whether it is a web application or desktop (especially desktop). Deciding whether to use tabs, mdi, left menu bar, let alone how to group my functionality (what do I put on the tabs), etc. I can bring in someone who has no clue about software development and they seem to be able to just come up with it without any difficulty. Maybe I'm too close to the code and therefore just can't see things from a user perspective. Is there anything out there that will help me? :confused:
webguy55 wrote:
Is there anything out there that will help me?
Massive doses of alcohol, extended sleep deprivation, and a few laced sugar cubes may help.;) "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9
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webguy55 wrote:
Is there anything out there that will help me?
Massive doses of alcohol, extended sleep deprivation, and a few laced sugar cubes may help.;) "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9
Have you hopped in to any of my amazing threads above and below this one? Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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webguy55 wrote:
Is there anything out there that will help me?
Alcohol! Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
Michael Martin wrote:
Alcohol!
LOL. Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New) -
Michael P Butler wrote:
I've found it is best to keep the interface simple and focused on the task that the user is trying to perform.
Mostly true - but most Office versions since Office XP, partly owe their success to new complicated but fancy looking user interfaces. Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
but most Office versions since Office XP, partly owe their success to new complicated but fancy looking user interfaces.
Really? I guess that's why Microsoft have changed Office 2007 to be a more task orientated UI again. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
but most Office versions since Office XP, partly owe their success to new complicated but fancy looking user interfaces.
Really? I guess that's why Microsoft have changed Office 2007 to be a more task orientated UI again. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote:
I guess that's why Microsoft have changed Office 2007 to be a more task orientated UI again.
:rolleyes: I don't know if you are joking or not - but to me Off 2007 UI looks complicated and fancy. It will take a while to get used to it I guess. Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New) -
webguy55 wrote:
Is there anything out there that will help me?
Alcohol! Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
Michael Martin wrote:
Alcohol!
rofl... *chug* hey, how come i put two "Apply" buttons on that form?? weird,..o well, lets remove one...nope, "OK", im not trying to remove YOU, jsut the "Apply"..not YOU "cancel"...sheeeesh, whats with buttons today??!?!? O.0 rara avis in terris
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Michael Martin wrote:
Alcohol!
rofl... *chug* hey, how come i put two "Apply" buttons on that form?? weird,..o well, lets remove one...nope, "OK", im not trying to remove YOU, jsut the "Apply"..not YOU "cancel"...sheeeesh, whats with buttons today??!?!? O.0 rara avis in terris
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Michael P Butler wrote:
I guess that's why Microsoft have changed Office 2007 to be a more task orientated UI again.
:rolleyes: I don't know if you are joking or not - but to me Off 2007 UI looks complicated and fancy. It will take a while to get used to it I guess. Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
but to me Off 2007 UI looks complicated and fancy
Yep, all you really need is a blank page and an icon like Bob in CPHog to display the keyboard shortcuts. If only. Besides a more tex-orientated view / crossed with CSS would be nice, seperating the content from the layout and all that. But then again I'm a person who likes coding the odd complex project with nothing but SciTE and the command-line (I'd use Notepad :rolleyes:, but I really hate the way it doesn't support CTRL+BACKSPACE to delete the previous word).
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Michael P Butler wrote:
I guess that's why Microsoft have changed Office 2007 to be a more task orientated UI again.
:rolleyes: I don't know if you are joking or not - but to me Off 2007 UI looks complicated and fancy. It will take a while to get used to it I guess. Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
I don't know if you are joking or not - but to me Off 2007 UI looks complicated and fancy. It will take a while to get used to it I guess.
No, I wasn't joking (one time only deal). I think the new UI is fantastic, very task orientated. Just the functionality you can do in the current context is available. It's different, but it suits the way I think better than previous versions. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]