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  • A AndyKEnZ

    "Noam Chomsky is the leading critical voice against the criminal regime now running the United States; a regime which is in fact a dangerous monster out of control. But he will not be bullied. He will not be intimidated. He is a fearless, formidable, totally independent voice. He does something which is really quite simple, but highly unusual. He tells the truth." (Source : Harold Pinter - Nobel Peace Prize for Literature 2005 - at St Paul's Cathedral, December 9 2002, to mark the 10th Anniversary of the Kurdish Human Rights Project) "Whether human beings have a future is not obvious. The answer will lie in the population dedicated to Values...community, solidarity, concern for a fragile environment that will have to sustain future generations, creative work under voluntary control, independent thought, and true democratic participation in varied aspects of life...In this possibly terminal phase of human existence, democracy and freedom are more than values to be treasured - they may well be essential to survival." (Source : "Chomsky and 3 Values for Survival", The Cyril Joad Society Christmas Lecturette, December 10 2005, Ifield West Community Centre, Gatwick, England)

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    Stan Shannon
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    AndyKEnZ wrote:

    leading critical voice against the criminal regime now running the United States; a regime which is in fact a dangerous monster out of control.

    Sedetion. The man should be arrested. "You get that which you tolerate"

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      AndyKEnZ wrote:

      leading critical voice against the criminal regime now running the United States; a regime which is in fact a dangerous monster out of control.

      Sedetion. The man should be arrested. "You get that which you tolerate"

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      J Dunlap
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      In free democratic societies it is not considered sedition to stage peaceful protest or to call for or attempt regime change through democratic means. If it were considered to be sedition, then there would be no legal means through which people could effect change in their government when either the electoral system fails or when the electoral system is not sufficient by itself to address the matter at hand - and therefore, it would no longer be a truly democratic system.

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        AndyKEnZ wrote:

        leading critical voice against the criminal regime now running the United States; a regime which is in fact a dangerous monster out of control.

        Sedetion. The man should be arrested. "You get that which you tolerate"

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        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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        Let's also arrest all those who do not show disdain towards Chomsky.

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          AndyKEnZ wrote:

          leading critical voice against the criminal regime now running the United States; a regime which is in fact a dangerous monster out of control.

          Sedetion. The man should be arrested. "You get that which you tolerate"

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          Ryan Roberts
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          The fact that he isn't is a strength, not a weakness. Whatever you think of his politics. Ryan

          "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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            In free democratic societies it is not considered sedition to stage peaceful protest or to call for or attempt regime change through democratic means. If it were considered to be sedition, then there would be no legal means through which people could effect change in their government when either the electoral system fails or when the electoral system is not sufficient by itself to address the matter at hand - and therefore, it would no longer be a truly democratic system.

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            J. Dunlap wrote:

            when the electoral system fails

            good one :laugh: I've found a living worth working for, but I haven't found work worth living for. :beer:
            :jig:

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            • A AndyKEnZ

              "Noam Chomsky is the leading critical voice against the criminal regime now running the United States; a regime which is in fact a dangerous monster out of control. But he will not be bullied. He will not be intimidated. He is a fearless, formidable, totally independent voice. He does something which is really quite simple, but highly unusual. He tells the truth." (Source : Harold Pinter - Nobel Peace Prize for Literature 2005 - at St Paul's Cathedral, December 9 2002, to mark the 10th Anniversary of the Kurdish Human Rights Project) "Whether human beings have a future is not obvious. The answer will lie in the population dedicated to Values...community, solidarity, concern for a fragile environment that will have to sustain future generations, creative work under voluntary control, independent thought, and true democratic participation in varied aspects of life...In this possibly terminal phase of human existence, democracy and freedom are more than values to be treasured - they may well be essential to survival." (Source : "Chomsky and 3 Values for Survival", The Cyril Joad Society Christmas Lecturette, December 10 2005, Ifield West Community Centre, Gatwick, England)

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              Red Stateler
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              Maybe I'm missing something...but why would these be quotes of the day?

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              • A AndyKEnZ

                "Noam Chomsky is the leading critical voice against the criminal regime now running the United States; a regime which is in fact a dangerous monster out of control. But he will not be bullied. He will not be intimidated. He is a fearless, formidable, totally independent voice. He does something which is really quite simple, but highly unusual. He tells the truth." (Source : Harold Pinter - Nobel Peace Prize for Literature 2005 - at St Paul's Cathedral, December 9 2002, to mark the 10th Anniversary of the Kurdish Human Rights Project) "Whether human beings have a future is not obvious. The answer will lie in the population dedicated to Values...community, solidarity, concern for a fragile environment that will have to sustain future generations, creative work under voluntary control, independent thought, and true democratic participation in varied aspects of life...In this possibly terminal phase of human existence, democracy and freedom are more than values to be treasured - they may well be essential to survival." (Source : "Chomsky and 3 Values for Survival", The Cyril Joad Society Christmas Lecturette, December 10 2005, Ifield West Community Centre, Gatwick, England)

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                Wjousts
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                AndyKEnZ wrote:

                But he will not be bullied. He will not be intimidated. He is a fearless, formidable, totally independent voice.

                I hear his also faster than a speeding bullet. Can he fly? ;)

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                  Don't confuse Chomsky with pacifism. He simply supports anyone who opposes America. http://www.almanar.com.lb/story.aspx?Language=en&DSNO=649568[^] Orwell's on pacifism[^] makes good reading. Ryan

                  "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                  Jerry Hammond
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                  Plus Chomsky makes a damn fine dollar off his form of pacifism.

                  “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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                    AndyKEnZ wrote:

                    leading critical voice against the criminal regime now running the United States; a regime which is in fact a dangerous monster out of control.

                    Sedetion. The man should be arrested. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                    Jerry Hammond
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                    Who is hiding Stan's meds again. Please put them back...

                    “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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                    • S Stan Shannon

                      AndyKEnZ wrote:

                      leading critical voice against the criminal regime now running the United States; a regime which is in fact a dangerous monster out of control.

                      Sedetion. The man should be arrested. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                      Sedetion. The man should be arrested.

                      Don't they sell sun-cream over there? Get some on that neck quick sharp! Andy

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                        AndyKEnZ wrote:

                        leading critical voice against the criminal regime now running the United States; a regime which is in fact a dangerous monster out of control.

                        Sedetion. The man should be arrested. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                        Wjousts
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                        Now I bet if the government was raising taxes you'd be the first to call it "a dangerous monster out of control".

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                        • A AndyKEnZ

                          "Noam Chomsky is the leading critical voice against the criminal regime now running the United States; a regime which is in fact a dangerous monster out of control. But he will not be bullied. He will not be intimidated. He is a fearless, formidable, totally independent voice. He does something which is really quite simple, but highly unusual. He tells the truth." (Source : Harold Pinter - Nobel Peace Prize for Literature 2005 - at St Paul's Cathedral, December 9 2002, to mark the 10th Anniversary of the Kurdish Human Rights Project) "Whether human beings have a future is not obvious. The answer will lie in the population dedicated to Values...community, solidarity, concern for a fragile environment that will have to sustain future generations, creative work under voluntary control, independent thought, and true democratic participation in varied aspects of life...In this possibly terminal phase of human existence, democracy and freedom are more than values to be treasured - they may well be essential to survival." (Source : "Chomsky and 3 Values for Survival", The Cyril Joad Society Christmas Lecturette, December 10 2005, Ifield West Community Centre, Gatwick, England)

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                          Vincent Reynolds
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                          But if you strategically ignore the terms "independent thought", "democracy", and "freedom", you'll see the word "community", obviously indicating that the man is a communist, and therefore an enemy of the state. Right Stan? Espeir?

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                            "Noam Chomsky is the leading critical voice against the criminal regime now running the United States; a regime which is in fact a dangerous monster out of control. But he will not be bullied. He will not be intimidated. He is a fearless, formidable, totally independent voice. He does something which is really quite simple, but highly unusual. He tells the truth." (Source : Harold Pinter - Nobel Peace Prize for Literature 2005 - at St Paul's Cathedral, December 9 2002, to mark the 10th Anniversary of the Kurdish Human Rights Project) "Whether human beings have a future is not obvious. The answer will lie in the population dedicated to Values...community, solidarity, concern for a fragile environment that will have to sustain future generations, creative work under voluntary control, independent thought, and true democratic participation in varied aspects of life...In this possibly terminal phase of human existence, democracy and freedom are more than values to be treasured - they may well be essential to survival." (Source : "Chomsky and 3 Values for Survival", The Cyril Joad Society Christmas Lecturette, December 10 2005, Ifield West Community Centre, Gatwick, England)

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                            Noam chosky has huge fan following outside U.S also...Some of his works had been translated into a couple of Indian languages. I haven't read him yet.

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                              AndyKEnZ wrote:

                              leading critical voice against the criminal regime now running the United States; a regime which is in fact a dangerous monster out of control.

                              Sedetion. The man should be arrested. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                              Your misspelling obfuscates your meaning, Stan. Are you accusing Chomsky of sedition, or requesting sedation for yourself?

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                                Now I bet if the government was raising taxes you'd be the first to call it "a dangerous monster out of control".

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                                Stan Shannon
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                                Wjousts wrote:

                                Now I bet if the government was raising taxes you'd be the first to call it "a dangerous monster out of control".

                                And I would be rigth! But I would also expect the IRS to violate my 4th amendment rights as it so frequently does to others. But that itsn't sedition, it is just dissent. Similar attacks on the commander in chief are in a completely differnt category. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                                  Wjousts wrote:

                                  Now I bet if the government was raising taxes you'd be the first to call it "a dangerous monster out of control".

                                  And I would be rigth! But I would also expect the IRS to violate my 4th amendment rights as it so frequently does to others. But that itsn't sedition, it is just dissent. Similar attacks on the commander in chief are in a completely differnt category. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                                  Wjousts
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                                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                                  Similar attacks on the commander in chief are in a completely differnt category.

                                  So if George Bush said he wanted to raise taxes then you'd keep quiet?

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                                    Wjousts wrote:

                                    Now I bet if the government was raising taxes you'd be the first to call it "a dangerous monster out of control".

                                    And I would be rigth! But I would also expect the IRS to violate my 4th amendment rights as it so frequently does to others. But that itsn't sedition, it is just dissent. Similar attacks on the commander in chief are in a completely differnt category. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                                    J Dunlap
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                                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                                    Similar attacks on the commander in chief are in a completely differnt category.

                                    Are you saying he should have special protection against criticism?

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                                      In free democratic societies it is not considered sedition to stage peaceful protest or to call for or attempt regime change through democratic means. If it were considered to be sedition, then there would be no legal means through which people could effect change in their government when either the electoral system fails or when the electoral system is not sufficient by itself to address the matter at hand - and therefore, it would no longer be a truly democratic system.

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                                      JCParker
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                                      No there is always revolution to change a government, sometimes from within other times as a result of outside forces. Besides there are times when it is not the government which fails but the people who put the idiots in to run it, in the first place who need to be culled from the herd and the process of goverment reestablished. Cheers A Silver bullet, A Gold Bullet, and A Lead Bullet, which is for you?

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                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        Similar attacks on the commander in chief are in a completely differnt category.

                                        So if George Bush said he wanted to raise taxes then you'd keep quiet?

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                                        I would support him, but I wouldn't vote for him. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          Similar attacks on the commander in chief are in a completely differnt category.

                                          Are you saying he should have special protection against criticism?

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                                          J. Dunlap wrote:

                                          Are you saying he should have special protection against criticism?

                                          Yes. "You get that which you tolerate"

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