What did you learn over the weekend?
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I think we can all agree that Gary did not shove his beliefs down anyone's throat. Would you agree? What he said was on-topic, and in reply to a question. I'd like to say, John, that while I understand where you're coming from (you want people to get along, for one), I'd much rather speak my mind and offend a few than stifle what's inside of me in order to attain the impossible goal of pleasing everyone.
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I wouldn't say he shoved it down anyone's throat no. Do I think it's appropriate in the CodeProject Lounge? Absolutely not. There's a soapbox intended for any divisive kind of discussion and that's where it (and religious themed taglines) belong. Many message boards devoted to topics of general interest have strict rules about this kind of thing, CodeProject does not so I accept I'm going to have to see these kinds of posts and taglines, but don't expect everyone to be happy with it. I think it's entirely inappropriate, were trying to foster a good community here where people can get along and discuss things without feeling like it's a hostile and divisive environment. When a person with strong religious beliefs parades them entirely out of context they surely understand they are being provocative to every other person here who doesn't share those beliefs. It's a conscious decision to make that provocation and to complain about the reaction to a provocation deliberately made is a little immature but entirely reveals the true provocative spirit in which it was posted in the first place.
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Did you learn something interesting, cool, unusual, etc. over the weekend? If so, what is it? Cheers, Josh
Yep. Don't try assembling bookcases when you have a migraine. :doh: On the plus side, we did catch a little of Bournemouth Music Festival in town on Saturday afternoon (though by then I knew I was in trouble). :) At least Sunday was grotty outside, so I didn't miss much! Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Yep, you'd think people would of taken down their flags of there cars and houses. We made the buttons on the screen look so good you'll want to lick them. Steve Jobs
norm .net wrote:
We made the buttons on the screen look so good you'll want to lick them. Steve Jobs
You know, that sig is creepy on just so many levels.
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i learned that, even though i love running in the rain, if i don't keep my runs under 30 minutes, my shoes and feet will get too wet, and i'll get blisters. or, shorter version: don't run 6 miles in the rain Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Try better quality socks. The high-tech wicking fabrics like CoolMax are great. I did a 5-miler last week in the rain, and no blisters.
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I like the kind of rum in plastic cups passed to you by gorgeous Welsh women as you step off of a long-boat to a river bank full of people cheering the winning Irish team after a long three hours of sailing and rowing. :) I am not much of a rum drinker usually and have no clue what type they gave us. It was dark rum, that is all I know. regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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Try Woods 100 in liberal quantities. You'll be well able to brave the elements at sea but won't want to stand up again for a week afterwards...;) Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Try better quality socks. The high-tech wicking fabrics like CoolMax are great. I did a 5-miler last week in the rain, and no blisters.
Software Zen:
delete this;i was wearing brand new New Balance socks. but there's not much they can do, when water is literally gushing out of my shoes with every step. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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Try Woods 100 in liberal quantities. You'll be well able to brave the elements at sea but won't want to stand up again for a week afterwards...;) Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
Hmmm...so you're saying it will make me a better seafarer? Sounds like a plan! Ever had Goslings? :)
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i was wearing brand new New Balance socks. but there's not much they can do, when water is literally gushing out of my shoes with every step. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Sounds like you need the outfit one of our locals wears at the annual Turkey Trot (an 8K on Thanksgiving morning that includes a costume contest). He runs in a wet suit and flippers :omg:.
Chris Losinger wrote:
water is literally gushing out of my shoes with every step
My running partner for my first marathon had that problem, even though it didn't rain that day. After starting out at 55°F, it was close to 85°F when we finished. The last 3-4 miles his shoes were squishing at each step from the sweat.
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Sounds like you need the outfit one of our locals wears at the annual Turkey Trot (an 8K on Thanksgiving morning that includes a costume contest). He runs in a wet suit and flippers :omg:.
Chris Losinger wrote:
water is literally gushing out of my shoes with every step
My running partner for my first marathon had that problem, even though it didn't rain that day. After starting out at 55°F, it was close to 85°F when we finished. The last 3-4 miles his shoes were squishing at each step from the sweat.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary Wheeler wrote:
He runs in a wet suit and flippers
:laugh: no thanks :)
Gary Wheeler wrote:
The last 3-4 miles his shoes were squishing at each step from the sweat
ugh. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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Put on sun block before going out on the bike for 4 hours in a tank top :((.
Software Zen:
delete this;mmmm lobstery Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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mmmm lobstery Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Chris... put down those pliers and that butter dish... put them down now...
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Try Woods 100 in liberal quantities. You'll be well able to brave the elements at sea but won't want to stand up again for a week afterwards...;) Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
Sounds just what I need :-D regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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Wow, where were you?
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Did you learn something interesting, cool, unusual, etc. over the weekend? If so, what is it? Cheers, Josh
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I wouldn't say he shoved it down anyone's throat no. Do I think it's appropriate in the CodeProject Lounge? Absolutely not. There's a soapbox intended for any divisive kind of discussion and that's where it (and religious themed taglines) belong. Many message boards devoted to topics of general interest have strict rules about this kind of thing, CodeProject does not so I accept I'm going to have to see these kinds of posts and taglines, but don't expect everyone to be happy with it. I think it's entirely inappropriate, were trying to foster a good community here where people can get along and discuss things without feeling like it's a hostile and divisive environment. When a person with strong religious beliefs parades them entirely out of context they surely understand they are being provocative to every other person here who doesn't share those beliefs. It's a conscious decision to make that provocation and to complain about the reaction to a provocation deliberately made is a little immature but entirely reveals the true provocative spirit in which it was posted in the first place.
John Cardinal wrote:
the true provocative spirit
It seems to me that wasn't Gary's intention.
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That laughing at an angry red headed irish girl is not a good idea...
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John Cardinal wrote:
the true provocative spirit
It seems to me that wasn't Gary's intention.
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Judah Himango wrote:
It seems to me that wasn't Gary's intention.
It's a matter of perception. This ->
Judah Himango wrote:
The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul
says to me that you're fairly indulgent if not supportive of statements that are of a religious nature, especially those that happen to coincide with your particular beliefs. The problem is that other people can find this offensive because of the perception that you're advertizing religion in a forum that has nothing to do with religion. In keeping with the thread and my reply to Judah: I learned that perception rules our lives, even when it's something completely harmless. All because of what someone else does or may perceive. And yes, this very much has become soapbox material. Mike Poz
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Hmmm...so you're saying it will make me a better seafarer? Sounds like a plan! Ever had Goslings? :)
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Judah Himango wrote:
It seems to me that wasn't Gary's intention.
It's a matter of perception. This ->
Judah Himango wrote:
The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul
says to me that you're fairly indulgent if not supportive of statements that are of a religious nature, especially those that happen to coincide with your particular beliefs. The problem is that other people can find this offensive because of the perception that you're advertizing religion in a forum that has nothing to do with religion. In keeping with the thread and my reply to Judah: I learned that perception rules our lives, even when it's something completely harmless. All because of what someone else does or may perceive. And yes, this very much has become soapbox material. Mike Poz
Gary's intention was not done in the spirit of forcing his belief on others; no one's really contending that, especially those that know Gary. Even John conceded that point earlier.
Mike Poz wrote:
The problem is that other people can find this offensive
Like I said to John, I understand the idea behind that, where you guys are coming from. Everyone getting along and noone getting offended; it's a nice idea after all. I *could* stifle myself and remain quiet, but what does that accomplish? And to what end? People will still be offended by other things--surely! It is an unattainable, utopian goal to not-offend the whole world. People are offended by the slightest things; I'd rather speak freely what's inside of me rather that stifle myself in order to not-offend a few. And yes, this has digressed into soapbox material, but that was due to the replies of an honest answer, something I applaud Gary for. He could've lied in order to not-offend a few, but he didn't. Good for him. :cool:
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Gary's intention was not done in the spirit of forcing his belief on others; no one's really contending that, especially those that know Gary. Even John conceded that point earlier.
Mike Poz wrote:
The problem is that other people can find this offensive
Like I said to John, I understand the idea behind that, where you guys are coming from. Everyone getting along and noone getting offended; it's a nice idea after all. I *could* stifle myself and remain quiet, but what does that accomplish? And to what end? People will still be offended by other things--surely! It is an unattainable, utopian goal to not-offend the whole world. People are offended by the slightest things; I'd rather speak freely what's inside of me rather that stifle myself in order to not-offend a few. And yes, this has digressed into soapbox material, but that was due to the replies of an honest answer, something I applaud Gary for. He could've lied in order to not-offend a few, but he didn't. Good for him. :cool:
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Judah Himango wrote:
Everyone getting along and noone getting offended; it's a nice idea after all.
Just my breathing offends some people to the point where they complain *about* me but not *to* me. But I'm not too thin skinned about it, I pity them for their inability to "just get along" in this diverse world we live in. Mike Poz