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    Anton Afanasyev
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    Hmm, yes, *THAT* "uber-product" again. I had 1 GB memory, and had system option set to 1.5GB whatever its called virtual-memory. Now I purchased anohter 2GB ram, because VS2005 was EXTREMELY slow. I got my RAM, installed it, and removed the virtual RAM. All was fine, some things got faster, VS2005 got a little faster and all was well. Until I tried loading two instances of VS2005 at the same time. If i load one, its OK. I run the second one, the first one hangs for infinite time. I end-task it in task manager, the second one hangs. I end-taks it as well. Explorer (NOT IE) hangs. I end task it, nothing hangs(wow, thats weird :p). I run explorer, it runs OK. run 2 copies of VS2005,same story. I reboot, try the same thing. it works fine, until at some point in just happens again. I cant say at which point, because its always different - sometimes after the comp has been running for 8 hours straight, sometimes if for 5 days, sometimes if 2 days, hibernated for 3 days, runnign for an hour again. pretty unpredictable. Has anyone ever encountered this? IF so, how do you battle with it?:~ Thanks for any suggestion, Anton. rara avis in terris

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      Hmm, yes, *THAT* "uber-product" again. I had 1 GB memory, and had system option set to 1.5GB whatever its called virtual-memory. Now I purchased anohter 2GB ram, because VS2005 was EXTREMELY slow. I got my RAM, installed it, and removed the virtual RAM. All was fine, some things got faster, VS2005 got a little faster and all was well. Until I tried loading two instances of VS2005 at the same time. If i load one, its OK. I run the second one, the first one hangs for infinite time. I end-task it in task manager, the second one hangs. I end-taks it as well. Explorer (NOT IE) hangs. I end task it, nothing hangs(wow, thats weird :p). I run explorer, it runs OK. run 2 copies of VS2005,same story. I reboot, try the same thing. it works fine, until at some point in just happens again. I cant say at which point, because its always different - sometimes after the comp has been running for 8 hours straight, sometimes if for 5 days, sometimes if 2 days, hibernated for 3 days, runnign for an hour again. pretty unpredictable. Has anyone ever encountered this? IF so, how do you battle with it?:~ Thanks for any suggestion, Anton. rara avis in terris

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      and JUST as i posted this is started working again after like 10 tries with it hanging. I say this is a major WTF.:wtf: some dude probably put this: [pseudocode] int iRand = random() * 1000; if (iRand > 10) { hang(DEF_INDEFINITE_TIME_AMT); while(still_hanging) { hog_the_whole_cpu(); } hang_other_vs_instances(); //die(); } [/pseudocode] in the startup of VS2005. X| rara avis in terris -- modified at 17:54 Sunday 2nd July, 2006 *comes back after a reboot* nevermind. as soon as i posted it, it crashed. I do have software installed - SetPoint(or something similar). Basically a part of my Logitech drivers. Do you think THAT could affect VS2k5?

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        Hmm, yes, *THAT* "uber-product" again. I had 1 GB memory, and had system option set to 1.5GB whatever its called virtual-memory. Now I purchased anohter 2GB ram, because VS2005 was EXTREMELY slow. I got my RAM, installed it, and removed the virtual RAM. All was fine, some things got faster, VS2005 got a little faster and all was well. Until I tried loading two instances of VS2005 at the same time. If i load one, its OK. I run the second one, the first one hangs for infinite time. I end-task it in task manager, the second one hangs. I end-taks it as well. Explorer (NOT IE) hangs. I end task it, nothing hangs(wow, thats weird :p). I run explorer, it runs OK. run 2 copies of VS2005,same story. I reboot, try the same thing. it works fine, until at some point in just happens again. I cant say at which point, because its always different - sometimes after the comp has been running for 8 hours straight, sometimes if for 5 days, sometimes if 2 days, hibernated for 3 days, runnign for an hour again. pretty unpredictable. Has anyone ever encountered this? IF so, how do you battle with it?:~ Thanks for any suggestion, Anton. rara avis in terris

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        Robert Surtees
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        If you really did turn off virtual memory, you probably should turn it back on.

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          Hmm, yes, *THAT* "uber-product" again. I had 1 GB memory, and had system option set to 1.5GB whatever its called virtual-memory. Now I purchased anohter 2GB ram, because VS2005 was EXTREMELY slow. I got my RAM, installed it, and removed the virtual RAM. All was fine, some things got faster, VS2005 got a little faster and all was well. Until I tried loading two instances of VS2005 at the same time. If i load one, its OK. I run the second one, the first one hangs for infinite time. I end-task it in task manager, the second one hangs. I end-taks it as well. Explorer (NOT IE) hangs. I end task it, nothing hangs(wow, thats weird :p). I run explorer, it runs OK. run 2 copies of VS2005,same story. I reboot, try the same thing. it works fine, until at some point in just happens again. I cant say at which point, because its always different - sometimes after the comp has been running for 8 hours straight, sometimes if for 5 days, sometimes if 2 days, hibernated for 3 days, runnign for an hour again. pretty unpredictable. Has anyone ever encountered this? IF so, how do you battle with it?:~ Thanks for any suggestion, Anton. rara avis in terris

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          Marc Clifton
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          2ASoft wrote:

          Has anyone ever encountered this?

          With the beta versions yes, but with the release version, with 1GB RAM, I often have five instances running and they're fine. Doing a lot of debug work, yes, that starts to consume RAM, but so far I've found it to be a fairly stable app, meaning maybe once a month something wierd happens and it's best cured by a reboot. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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            2ASoft wrote:

            Has anyone ever encountered this?

            With the beta versions yes, but with the release version, with 1GB RAM, I often have five instances running and they're fine. Doing a lot of debug work, yes, that starts to consume RAM, but so far I've found it to be a fairly stable app, meaning maybe once a month something wierd happens and it's best cured by a reboot. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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            Same here, I've had 4 open and no problems. VS2005 is so much better than 2003 as far as being able to run quickly in my opinion. You could have a CPU issue, or hard drive thrashing. - Drew

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              If you really did turn off virtual memory, you probably should turn it back on.

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              Anton Afanasyev
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              Yes, I didn turn it off. but then how much of it should I put in there? half a gig? a gig? probably wont allow more... rara avis in terris

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                2ASoft wrote:

                Has anyone ever encountered this?

                With the beta versions yes, but with the release version, with 1GB RAM, I often have five instances running and they're fine. Doing a lot of debug work, yes, that starts to consume RAM, but so far I've found it to be a fairly stable app, meaning maybe once a month something wierd happens and it's best cured by a reboot. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                At work, where I have 1.5GB ram and about 2 virtual memory, I can run many instances without problems too. Its at home that it doesnt work. I have the same OS (WinXP), although at work it's the Novell-something-weird edition, and at home its professional w/ SP2. And at work I have a non-HT CPU, whilst at home it is HT. and roughly the same clock speed. I'm realy stumped on this one. Oh, and one other thing, at home I have VMWare installed. When I rebooted, I ran 2 instances of VS2k5, it was OK. then I run VMWare. Usualy it is the other way around - VMWare runs first. I also have an XP machine in it that has 512MB RAM. That *could* potentially affect it, but I am wondering why whould it with 3GB RAM... rara avis in terris

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                • A Anton Afanasyev

                  Yes, I didn turn it off. but then how much of it should I put in there? half a gig? a gig? probably wont allow more... rara avis in terris

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                  Ryan Binns
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                  The general rule of thumb has always been 1.5 times your RAM size. Dunno if that still applies these days though...

                  Ryan

                  "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                  • A Anton Afanasyev

                    Yes, I didn turn it off. but then how much of it should I put in there? half a gig? a gig? probably wont allow more... rara avis in terris

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                    WinXP32bit. Doesnt that support a max of 4Gigs(real ram PLUS virtual RAM). And I know the rule, which is why i had it set to 1.5 GB before, adn at 2.25 at work. Thanks for the tip tho, maybe others dont know it.:cool: rara avis in terris

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