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    Dario Solera wrote:

    do you use some plugin to integrate SVN with VS

    Ankh SVN


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    Dario Solera
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    toxcct wrote:

    Ankh SVN

    Uhm... I tried it a while ago and it didn't work, in VS05 at least. I was unable to connect to the repository or something like that. Do you know anything else? _____________________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA] - Developing ScrewTurn Wiki 1.0 Beta... -- modified at 9:01 Wednesday 5th July, 2006

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      Dario Solera wrote:

      do you use some plugin to integrate SVN with VS

      Ankh SVN


      TOXCCT >>> GEII power

      [VisualCalc 3.0  updated ][Flags Beginner's Guide  new! ]

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      Monty2
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      toxcct wrote:

      Ankh SVN

      Never tried it, is it any good?


      **You know you're obsessed with computer graphics when you're outside and you look up at the trees and think, "Wow! That's spectacular resolution!"

      Only kings, presidents, editors, and people with tapeworms have the right to use the editorial "we."**

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        Rage wrote:

        what would you see as the best source control tool ?

        This question should be in the CP faq or something, its discussed so many times here :-D My favorite is TortoiseSVN + Subversion :cool:


        **You know you're obsessed with computer graphics when you're outside and you look up at the trees and think, "Wow! That's spectacular resolution!"

        Only kings, presidents, editors, and people with tapeworms have the right to use the editorial "we."**

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        Marc Soleda
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        My one is TortoiseCVS + CVSNT. I'm thinking to pass to SVN but I don't know if it's much better. I've some comparission chart that has't convinced me. Have you worked with both systems adn you prefer SVN? Marc Soleda ... she said you are the perfect stranger she said baby let's keep it like this... Dire Straits

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        • M Marc Soleda

          My one is TortoiseCVS + CVSNT. I'm thinking to pass to SVN but I don't know if it's much better. I've some comparission chart that has't convinced me. Have you worked with both systems adn you prefer SVN? Marc Soleda ... she said you are the perfect stranger she said baby let's keep it like this... Dire Straits

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          Monty2
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          marcdev wrote:

          My one is TortoiseCVS + CVSNT

          Haven't used CVSNT at all so i can't compare but i am pretty satisfied with SVN.


          **You know you're obsessed with computer graphics when you're outside and you look up at the trees and think, "Wow! That's spectacular resolution!"

          Only kings, presidents, editors, and people with tapeworms have the right to use the editorial "we."**

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            Hi CPians, My department contemplates buying VSS as source control tool. What do you think about it, and what would you see as the best source control tool ? ~RaGE();

            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus

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            Mike Dimmick
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            We're using SourceGear Vault successfully. If you're already familiar with SourceSafe it's pretty easy to get going with. It's pretty easy to get going with if you've never used any source control before as well - most people here hadn't. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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              Hi CPians, My department contemplates buying VSS as source control tool. What do you think about it, and what would you see as the best source control tool ? ~RaGE();

              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus

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              Ryan Binns
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              Rage wrote:

              My department contemplates buying VSS as source control tool. What do you think about it

              Visual SourceUnsafe? Stay well away. If you do use it, do backups every few seconds, as it will randomly corrupt its own database and you'll lose all your data...

              Rage wrote:

              what would you see as the best source control tool ?

              Use either Subversion or Perforce. We're choosing between these two at work at the moment, moving away from RCS and Visual SourceUnsafe.

              Ryan

              "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                toxcct wrote:

                Ankh SVN

                Uhm... I tried it a while ago and it didn't work, in VS05 at least. I was unable to connect to the repository or something like that. Do you know anything else? _____________________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA] - Developing ScrewTurn Wiki 1.0 Beta... -- modified at 9:01 Wednesday 5th July, 2006

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                Ryan Roberts
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                0.6 is meant to work with 2005. Not tried it though. Ryan

                "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                • M Monty2

                  toxcct wrote:

                  Ankh SVN

                  Never tried it, is it any good?


                  **You know you're obsessed with computer graphics when you're outside and you look up at the trees and think, "Wow! That's spectacular resolution!"

                  Only kings, presidents, editors, and people with tapeworms have the right to use the editorial "we."**

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                  Paul Watson
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                  Not really. Stick with tortoise. regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                  Shog9 wrote:

                  eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                  • M Marc Soleda

                    My one is TortoiseCVS + CVSNT. I'm thinking to pass to SVN but I don't know if it's much better. I've some comparission chart that has't convinced me. Have you worked with both systems adn you prefer SVN? Marc Soleda ... she said you are the perfect stranger she said baby let's keep it like this... Dire Straits

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                    Ryan Roberts
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                    SVN has some big advantages over CVS. Atomic changesets being the biggest - if an operation fails when you commit a large number of files, no changes will be made to the repository. Its also got much friendlier branching behaviour. Handles binaries better too. Can use webdav as a transport and run happily over port 80 too, which is handy if you have zealous sys admins. Ryan

                    "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                    • R Rage

                      Hi CPians, My department contemplates buying VSS as source control tool. What do you think about it, and what would you see as the best source control tool ? ~RaGE();

                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus

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                      macwkize
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                      I would say SourceGear Vault. We've just switched to it after using VSS for many years. I haven't looked back once. Vault integrates with VS if you want it do (I don't - I now prefer the CVS edit-merge-commit method), is SQL-server based, has fully atomic transactions, excellent branching and merging support, proper ACLs for projects, and more. And no, I don't work for SourceGear! :)

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                      • R Rage

                        Hi CPians, My department contemplates buying VSS as source control tool. What do you think about it, and what would you see as the best source control tool ? ~RaGE();

                        I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus

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                        El Corazon
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                        Rage wrote:

                        My department contemplates buying VSS as source control tool.

                        So they did this because of the MS name, or because a salesman told them they could have it "real cheap"... here are some tips on keeping VSS stable and working: 1) Never allow your disk to pass 60% of your storage space 2) Never upgrade your hardware/software on the VSS server 3) Never allow more than one person to use the server (we're not even talking one at a time) 4) Never delete a file, always add and depricate, never remove 5) Never back it up when your one person is using the server. 6) Always back it up nightly with saved versions lasting at least 2 weeks in case you don't notice an issue for a few days. 7) Always make sure luck favors you above all others. We have one person who loves VSS, he has his own server, his own network, and only he submits on it. He's never had a problem. Though he may just be very lucky. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                        • M Monty2

                          Rage wrote:

                          what would you see as the best source control tool ?

                          This question should be in the CP faq or something, its discussed so many times here :-D My favorite is TortoiseSVN + Subversion :cool:


                          **You know you're obsessed with computer graphics when you're outside and you look up at the trees and think, "Wow! That's spectacular resolution!"

                          Only kings, presidents, editors, and people with tapeworms have the right to use the editorial "we."**

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                          Craig G Fraser
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                          Subversion is the way to go. We have migrated from VSS and have no regrets. We alsouse the Ank plugin for VS2005....not very stable though...so mostly do all the checking in/updating from explorer using Tortoise. Cheers, Craig ** I'd rather try and fail than fail to try ;) **

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                          • R Rage

                            Hi CPians, My department contemplates buying VSS as source control tool. What do you think about it, and what would you see as the best source control tool ? ~RaGE();

                            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus

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                            David Crow
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                            I've been using it since its inception. It does what we need it to do. Other folks have different requirements and thus it may not be the right tool for the job.


                            "The largest fire starts but with the smallest spark." - David Crow

                            "Judge not by the eye but by the heart." - Native American Proverb

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                              Hi CPians, My department contemplates buying VSS as source control tool. What do you think about it, and what would you see as the best source control tool ? ~RaGE();

                              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus

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                              Christian Graus
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                              Best I have used is VSTS. VSS is fine, despite all the whining from the CVS weenies. I challenge anyone to make CVS work as quickly as VSS does, out of the box. I hear subversion is a good tool, however, and it is free. I doubt it integrates with your IDE, tho. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                Rage wrote:

                                My department contemplates buying VSS as source control tool. What do you think about it

                                Visual SourceUnsafe? Stay well away. If you do use it, do backups every few seconds, as it will randomly corrupt its own database and you'll lose all your data...

                                Rage wrote:

                                what would you see as the best source control tool ?

                                Use either Subversion or Perforce. We're choosing between these two at work at the moment, moving away from RCS and Visual SourceUnsafe.

                                Ryan

                                "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                Christian Graus
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                                Ryan Binns wrote:

                                If you do use it, do backups every few seconds, as it will randomly corrupt its own database and you'll lose all your data...

                                Rubbish - I have used VSS for years. If this is your experience, you're doing it wrong. VSS is not perfect ( using it over a modem is hell ), but I've NEVER lost data from a VSS database. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                  Best I have used is VSTS. VSS is fine, despite all the whining from the CVS weenies. I challenge anyone to make CVS work as quickly as VSS does, out of the box. I hear subversion is a good tool, however, and it is free. I doubt it integrates with your IDE, tho. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                  Howard Richards
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                                  Much agreement here. I've not had any problems with VSS but I am looking to migrate to VSTS: primarily the integration of tasks, builds and source control into one. 'Howard

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                                    Rage wrote:

                                    My department contemplates buying VSS as source control tool. What do you think about it

                                    Visual SourceUnsafe? Stay well away. If you do use it, do backups every few seconds, as it will randomly corrupt its own database and you'll lose all your data...

                                    Rage wrote:

                                    what would you see as the best source control tool ?

                                    Use either Subversion or Perforce. We're choosing between these two at work at the moment, moving away from RCS and Visual SourceUnsafe.

                                    Ryan

                                    "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                    Taka Muraoka
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                                    Ryan Binns wrote:

                                    do backups every few seconds

                                    Of course, if you do that, pretty soon you'll be backing up a corrupted database ;P


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                                    • C Christian Graus

                                      Best I have used is VSTS. VSS is fine, despite all the whining from the CVS weenies. I challenge anyone to make CVS work as quickly as VSS does, out of the box. I hear subversion is a good tool, however, and it is free. I doubt it integrates with your IDE, tho. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                      Rage
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                                      You are working alone, Christian, aren't you ? I heard handling multiple users at the same time seems a pretty tough job for VSS. ~RaGE();

                                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus

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                                        Ryan Binns wrote:

                                        If you do use it, do backups every few seconds, as it will randomly corrupt its own database and you'll lose all your data...

                                        Rubbish - I have used VSS for years. If this is your experience, you're doing it wrong. VSS is not perfect ( using it over a modem is hell ), but I've NEVER lost data from a VSS database. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                        Jeremy Falcon
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                                        Christian Graus wrote:

                                        but I've NEVER lost data from a VSS database.

                                        It gets worse the larger the db gets. Jeremy Falcon

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                                          Best I have used is VSTS. VSS is fine, despite all the whining from the CVS weenies. I challenge anyone to make CVS work as quickly as VSS does, out of the box. I hear subversion is a good tool, however, and it is free. I doubt it integrates with your IDE, tho. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                          Jeremy Falcon
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                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          I challenge anyone to make CVS work as quickly as VSS does, out of the box.

                                          VB works quicker than C++ out of the box too. Jeremy Falcon

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