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I'd be interested to see what impact this has on piracy. I think people will find it easier to justify using pirated versions for their VM's, or re-using licenses across multiple VM's. Also, if you create a new VM with Windows on it, then using snapshots create two (or more) branches, you effectively have two different machines so couldn't it be argued that this would need multiple licenses? :doh: ;P
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Taka Muraoka wrote:
I'd be interested to see what impact this has on piracy. I think people will find it easier to justify using pirated versions for their VM's, or re-using licenses across multiple VM's.
However, microsoft has made it easier to get the license only version, admitedly I still balked at the $85 price for a 2nd copy at the house, it was available and easily accessable. I just decided not to run a VM windows like I have at work. I run VM Linux instead and I can toss away my old multiple boot disks (or rather give away). _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Taka Muraoka wrote:
I'd be interested to see what impact this has on piracy. I think people will find it easier to justify using pirated versions for their VM's, or re-using licenses across multiple VM's.
There is Product Activation. New OSes are activated - so unless someone explictly applies a crack to disable the Activation, they wouldn't be able to use the same OS license on multiple VMs. Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)What if two VM's have exactly the same configuration? Does activation recognize them as the same "machine"? Or you create a base VM with nothing installed on it and then duplicate it. Surely that would end up looking like the same machine. Activation is going to cause all kinds of problems because it's so much easier to change the virtual hardware. Plus you could always do what I mentioned before and run lots of branches within the one VM.
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Did I miss something? First it was VMware Server and now it seems that Virtual PC is now also free[^]. Giving Tetris away for free is one thing but things like these are pretty sophisticated beasts. There's no doubt that virtualization is going to be a hot market Real Soon Now but how are these guys planning to make any money from it?
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It's nowhere near as good as VMWare though and at just over £100 VMWare is very good value. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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It's nowhere near as good as VMWare though and at just over £100 VMWare is very good value. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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It's nowhere near as good as VMWare though
Totally agreed. I already have VMWare and have zero desire to use VirtualPC. It was always slow on the Mac, and never got that much better when they ported it to Windows. Now, granted, I never used the version after MS acquired it. But, I don't think they did a complete rewrite, otherwise it still wouldn't be released. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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It's nowhere near as good as VMWare though and at just over £100 VMWare is very good value. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
I have to agree. For me it is the range of OS's that I can get up and running easily on VMWare. When I tried to get the latest CentOS or Fedora (Red Hat) up on VPC it neigh impossible to get the virtual machine extensions running. With VMWare it a simple patch of the extensions and I was done. Of course IBM's zVM os kicks complete virtualization arse. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
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It's nowhere near as good as VMWare though and at just over £100 VMWare is very good value. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
I do not agree. I used both and the only feature I really miss in VPC (compare to VMWare) is the snapshots though it does have the Undo Disks. But I have to admit that I only used VPC for MS products, I do not know how it works for non-MS OSes.
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Did I miss something? First it was VMware Server and now it seems that Virtual PC is now also free[^]. Giving Tetris away for free is one thing but things like these are pretty sophisticated beasts. There's no doubt that virtualization is going to be a hot market Real Soon Now but how are these guys planning to make any money from it?
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Thats a cool news Although VMWare is great which i use in my office , but Virtual PC which is no way close to it, is also sweet, and if it is free well ....good for all the freelancers / testers Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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It's nowhere near as good as VMWare though and at just over £100 VMWare is very good value. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
I fully agree. VMWare is light years ahead of all other players in virtualization IMO. I've used both VPC and VMWare and I'd pay for VMWare even over getting vpc for free.
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Did I miss something? First it was VMware Server and now it seems that Virtual PC is now also free[^]. Giving Tetris away for free is one thing but things like these are pretty sophisticated beasts. There's no doubt that virtualization is going to be a hot market Real Soon Now but how are these guys planning to make any money from it?
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What makes you think that developers have actually given thought to how they plan to make money when they start coding? It certainly doesn't seem to be "the Internet way." :rolleyes: Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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I do not agree. I used both and the only feature I really miss in VPC (compare to VMWare) is the snapshots though it does have the Undo Disks. But I have to admit that I only used VPC for MS products, I do not know how it works for non-MS OSes.
In short - it's terrible! The tigress is here :-D
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It's nowhere near as good as VMWare though and at just over £100 VMWare is very good value. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
Still, the inferior cheap product has a tendency to kill the quality market.
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Taka Muraoka wrote:
but how are these guys planning to make any money from it?
Microsoft has no "virtual PC" license exemptions on the OS. If you want Server 2003, XP and Vista, buy three OS licenses. If you want XP and an XP "test set" in order to protect certain services, you need two XP licenses (though one can be reduced as a "license only -- no media"). A virtual PC only means you can run more operating systems that you have to pay for on the same machine. That sounds like reason enough to make it free. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
There are exemptions for virtualization in the Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition licences. See here[^]. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder