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  • C Christian Graus

    I didn't have a/ the bandwidth, b/ a modem ( they were 1200/75 or 300/300 at the time c/ Code Project, or d/ the world wide web to facilitate visiting when I was 15... :( Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm somewhat suspicious of STL though. My (test,experimental) program worked first time. Whats that all about??!?! - Jon Hulatt, 22/3/2002

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    They had computers back then :) -:suss:Matt Newman / Anti-Linux Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman
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    • C Chris Maunder

      ha! they didn't have "bandwidth" when I was 15 ;) cheers, Chris Maunder

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      • N Nish Nishant

        Joel Matthias wrote: I have to use a 21" monitor set at 640x480 and have to take naps every 30 mins now. That was a subtle way of lettin people know that you have a 21" monitor :-( Nish

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        Sorry Nish, if it makes you feel better I'll sit a long way from the screen in the future ;P Also, I only have a 21" TV at home - and I live in the US (but then I grew up in England). Joel

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        • A Andrew Peace

          Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: But if you want the fun-girls in, then CP would rot and CPians with it. What are you saying - fun girls can't be intelligent enough to keep up intersting and lively debates? I disagree - I know several clever and fun girls who I spend time with. It amazes me how people think women are so different to us guys - they might talk about sport less and be able to multi-task but that's about it in terms of mental difference as far as I can see, so why the 'shunning'? Just wondering, that's all... -- Andrew.

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          Nobody needs to tell me that women can code well and be great fun as well. My preferred programming partner is a girl and she can code better than most other males in my work place. She is good fun too. By 'fun-girl' I mean the silly bubble-gum chewing type of girl who is stupider than a worm and who says dumb things like, "this is rad kewl" and "like crazy cool maw" Nish

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          • I ISIS55

            That was below the belt! :laugh: :laugh: This guy is young, he has a long way ahead before he needs to decide which field lures him most. Maybe he isn't interested in making games anymore, or maybe he wasn't ready for what he planned (or maybe he's a lazy bastard like me). I've been meaning to make a game for years, never had the knowledge to make a serious one. Only now I can really make this dream come true. Isaac Sasson, Small time programmer - complainer at large. Sonork ID 100.13704

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            The reason was really that the summer ended and that school started to get into full swing. As I am completely devoted to my academic life, there wasn't much time for large projects anymore. :((

            -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] MadHamster Creations "I was born human. But this was an accident of fate - a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change..."

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            • D David Stone

              Surely you jest. Are you 13?? Besides, XML isn't programming. Neither is CSS, XHTML, or XSLT. DirectX isn't a language. ASP.Net really isn't a language either because you can use other languages within it. So really, you know C++, C#, and JScript.net. David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com "I am but mad north-northwest, when the wind is southerly I know a hawk from a handsaw." -Hamlet

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              David Stone wrote: Surely you jest. Are you 13?? Yes, I am. No jesting here :) Started programming C++ in 5th grade. David Stone wrote: Besides, XML isn't programming. Neither is CSS, XHTML, or XSLT. DirectX isn't a language. ASP.Net really isn't a language either because you can use other languages within it. I don't think I implied that they were. And I am not in a contest comparing what languages I know; I am simply saying that I have extended my technical knowledge to many fields and learned how to use many different languages/APIs/COM interfaces/whatevers. David Stone wrote: So really, you know C++, C#, and JScript.net. I think that's an inaccurate statement; knowing the other specified languages/APIs/COM interfaces/whatevers is still knowing something and does require skill, work, dedication, etc.

              -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] MadHamster Creations "I was born human. But this was an accident of fate - a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change..."

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              • J James T Johnson

                HockeyDude wrote: programming or reading instead of homework or hanging out w/ friends...was totally worth while... I agree with that :) HockeyDude wrote: you can party with the hotties in uni...full grown women What uni did you go to? Michigan Tech didn't have any hotties, then again it is an engineering school located in the snowy north; two things most women hate :-P James Sonork: Hasaki "I left there in the morning with their God tucked underneath my arm their half-assed smiles and the book of rules. So I asked this God a question and by way of firm reply, He said - I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays." "Wind Up" from Aqualung, Jethro Tull 1971

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                James T. Johnson wrote: What uni did you go to? Michigan Tech didn't have any hotties, then again it is an engineering school located in the snowy north; two things most women hate You didn't read the small print. ;P I made sure to offer my wisdom and tell the guy to make sure he finishes high school. Something I failed to do...there was nothing enticing about hanging with a bunch of hooligans and getting into fights. My teachers made school even more unpleasant...so there was no desire to goto class. "An expert is someone who has made all the mistakes in his or her field" - Niels Bohr

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  HockeyDude wrote: Just think...if you know this much now...how good will you be in 5 years when your 20...? It does not really work that way. technologies keep changing. Nish

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                  In that respect, your right. What I meant was IMO, whilst technologies keep changing...my (and others) ability to comprehend advanced concepts like compression and so forth are far greater now then when I was 8. ;P Age has no bearing on someone's level of intelligence...that would be like saying education is everything...this is what I really meant. :) Cheers! :) "An expert is someone who has made all the mistakes in his or her field" - Niels Bohr

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                    David Stone wrote: I like being able to talk to you guys and learn what you know. Then you've come to the right place! CP combines 2 of the 3 most important things in life: humor and knowledge. If CP had some women around, it would have been heaven... Isaac Sasson, Small time programmer - complainer at large. Sonork ID 100.13704

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                    What do you mean IF ?:mad: Thats men for you !

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                    • D David Stone

                      Jeez, I was crwaling through the member listing when it hit me...you guys are all WAY older than me. I think the only one I saw who was even remotely close was David Wulff. But he's still 3 years older than me. (I'm 15 currently. Born in '86.) When I go to local Microsoft events, I'm always the youngest one there. No one even comes close. When I went to DevDays 2002, the MC had me stand up out of a room of at least 3 to 500 and said that he wished that he had been going to Microsoft events at my age. I don't know any other 15 year olds that program (some of my friends do HTML in FrontPage, but that's not really programming). Are there any other 15 year olds on CP? David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com "I am but mad north-northwest, when the wind is southerly I know a hawk from a handsaw." -Hamlet

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                      When you were born I had been working on computers for 20+ years and it's still fun;) This Sig For Rent
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                      • M Matt Newman

                        That was kind of a joke about the insane amounts of posts in the lounge :) Dan Pomerchik wrote: 56K modem working like 2400BPS modem :( -:suss:Matt Newman / Anti-Linux Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman
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                        ****Matt Newman wrote: That was kind of a joke about the insane amounts of posts in the lounge Yeh I know :-) It's insane indeed :-) - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"

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                        • M Michael P Butler

                          Domenic [CPUA 0x1337] wrote: that game I made using DirectX 8.1, but that never got finished. I see a great future for you on the Duke Nukem Forever development team :-D Michael :-)

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                          Lol ! :-) :-) - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"

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                          • N Nish Nishant

                            Nobody needs to tell me that women can code well and be great fun as well. My preferred programming partner is a girl and she can code better than most other males in my work place. She is good fun too. By 'fun-girl' I mean the silly bubble-gum chewing type of girl who is stupider than a worm and who says dumb things like, "this is rad kewl" and "like crazy cool maw" Nish

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                            I didn't mean to offend - you're absolutely right about the silly bubble-gum chewing girl who is stupider than a worm :). You know, some intelligent girls chew gum too ya know..... ;P -- Andrew.

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              I think everyone has a project or two that they didn't finish because they didn't find time, and it was outside the areas they needed to throw their energies into. Mine is a 3D Asteroids game. On that basis, I took this as a ( very funny ) dig at the Duke Nukem team and not at the guy who posted at all, because who *doesn't* have an unfinished project at home ? Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm somewhat suspicious of STL though. My (test,experimental) program worked first time. Whats that all about??!?! - Jon Hulatt, 22/3/2002

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                              Christian Graus wrote: On that basis, I took this as a ( very funny ) dig at the Duke Nukem team and not at the guy who posted at all, because who *doesn't* have an unfinished project at home ? I'm glad somebody else picked up on my humour. I never intended to make fun of the original poster. Heck, I've lost count of the number of projects I've started and never finished. Michael :-)

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                              • D Domenic Denicola

                                David Stone wrote: Surely you jest. Are you 13?? Yes, I am. No jesting here :) Started programming C++ in 5th grade. David Stone wrote: Besides, XML isn't programming. Neither is CSS, XHTML, or XSLT. DirectX isn't a language. ASP.Net really isn't a language either because you can use other languages within it. I don't think I implied that they were. And I am not in a contest comparing what languages I know; I am simply saying that I have extended my technical knowledge to many fields and learned how to use many different languages/APIs/COM interfaces/whatevers. David Stone wrote: So really, you know C++, C#, and JScript.net. I think that's an inaccurate statement; knowing the other specified languages/APIs/COM interfaces/whatevers is still knowing something and does require skill, work, dedication, etc.

                                -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] MadHamster Creations "I was born human. But this was an accident of fate - a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change..."

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                                I wasn't trying to minimize your experience or your knowledge. I did not mean to offend you either. In fact, the whole point of asking who was around my age was to get to know the rest of us "kids". I do have one question. Why use JScript.net if you know C#? Obviously you are using ASP.Net with JScript.net. Why not use C# which is much more powerful. Maybe I don't get it. (I'm a VB.Net guy myself. I like the continual compilation and Intellisense debugging features:-D.) Oh, two questions. Do you have VS.Net??? I know that a lot of people don't. I work for the guy who works for my Dad, so I have a corporate pocketbook behind me. I got the Enterprise Developer version. I didn't need the Architect version. It's really cool. David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com "I am but mad north-northwest, when the wind is southerly I know a hawk from a handsaw." -Hamlet

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                                • D Domenic Denicola

                                  The reason was really that the summer ended and that school started to get into full swing. As I am completely devoted to my academic life, there wasn't much time for large projects anymore. :((

                                  -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] MadHamster Creations "I was born human. But this was an accident of fate - a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change..."

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                                  That's a load of bull! Quit slacking off and get to it, unless you're not interested anymore. I'm pretty sure a 13-year old doesn't have such busy academic life he can't program every once in a while... Isaac Sasson, Lean, mean posting machine! Sonork ID 100.13704

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                                    What do you mean IF ?:mad: Thats men for you !

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                                    I'm truely sorry, I have missed your presense my dear lady, please forgive me... Isaac Sasson, Lean, mean posting machine! Sonork ID 100.13704

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                                      That's a load of bull! Quit slacking off and get to it, unless you're not interested anymore. I'm pretty sure a 13-year old doesn't have such busy academic life he can't program every once in a while... Isaac Sasson, Lean, mean posting machine! Sonork ID 100.13704

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                                      1. I actually kind of do. I am maintaining above 100% and getting straight A+s (that's a 4.33 GPA), and of course doing high-quality work even when not required. I am a year ahead in my math class (Geometry instead of Algebra), which I am basically teaching myself (the school won't pay the teacher to teach two students). I am working on getting accepted into 4 honors classes next year, which means getting portfolios together as well as taking quite a few placement tests. And my parents restrict me to an 20:30 bedtime :( 2) My game wasn't really that interesting in the first place. It got to a point where there were too many interdepencies and friend classes, and I figured the whole architechture was screwed. Plus, I am a really bad artist, so I didn't get the best graphics going either. 3) If I were to start again, I'd have to go back to the horror that is C++ ;P . I am SOOO happy with C# and .NET now I don't think I'd ever be able to use C++ seriously again. 4) I still program quite frequently. I have just finished a very nice GUI utility to check XML files for well-formedness and validate them against an XSD schema, as well as writing documentation and an install program for it. I also am working on a program to compute chess ratings from an XML database detailing the games of a tournament, and then allow the creation and editing of these databases in a datagrid. And I am revamping my website using ASP.NET, creating a kewl XML file format that ASP.NET turns into HTML to save myself from retyping the page's headers and layout.

                                      -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] MadHamster Creations "I was born human. But this was an accident of fate - a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change..."

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                                        1. I actually kind of do. I am maintaining above 100% and getting straight A+s (that's a 4.33 GPA), and of course doing high-quality work even when not required. I am a year ahead in my math class (Geometry instead of Algebra), which I am basically teaching myself (the school won't pay the teacher to teach two students). I am working on getting accepted into 4 honors classes next year, which means getting portfolios together as well as taking quite a few placement tests. And my parents restrict me to an 20:30 bedtime :( 2) My game wasn't really that interesting in the first place. It got to a point where there were too many interdepencies and friend classes, and I figured the whole architechture was screwed. Plus, I am a really bad artist, so I didn't get the best graphics going either. 3) If I were to start again, I'd have to go back to the horror that is C++ ;P . I am SOOO happy with C# and .NET now I don't think I'd ever be able to use C++ seriously again. 4) I still program quite frequently. I have just finished a very nice GUI utility to check XML files for well-formedness and validate them against an XSD schema, as well as writing documentation and an install program for it. I also am working on a program to compute chess ratings from an XML database detailing the games of a tournament, and then allow the creation and editing of these databases in a datagrid. And I am revamping my website using ASP.NET, creating a kewl XML file format that ASP.NET turns into HTML to save myself from retyping the page's headers and layout.

                                        -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] MadHamster Creations "I was born human. But this was an accident of fate - a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change..."

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                                        Domenic [CPUA 0x1337] wrote: 1) I actually kind of do... Been there, done that. I know exactly where you stand, I've gone through a similar path. Only now do I realize school was my life back then, and my social life kinda sucked. Later on that changed dramatically to the other extreme. What I'm trying to say is that you should try to balance your academic life and your social life. You can sacrifice an A+ for an just and A and a couple more hours of hanging around with your classmates. Besides, what you are doing now is nothing compared to what's expecting you, Algebra and Geometry are just the beginning of the beginning... so pace yourself...soon you'll wish you took it slowly... Domenic [CPUA 0x1337] wrote: 2) My game wasn't really that interesting in the first place Start a new one. An improved one. One you like. Sketch some graphics of your own, when the game is almost completed start worrying about getting better graphics. When you're close to the finish line you're motivated to complete the track, when you're just starting it looks as if you'll never make it... Domenic [CPUA 0x1337] wrote: 3) If I were to start again, I'd have to go back to the horror that is C++ If I could start again I'd climb a tree and eat a bannana. Domenic [CPUA 0x1337] wrote: 4) I still program quite frequently Good! Well...ah...carry on! Just remember that you'll have your whole life to study and to program, but your childhood or teenage period will only happen once - don't spend them near electrical appliances! Spend them with friends, booze and girls... Oh! you're 13! forget about the booze and the girls for now... :-D :-D :-D Isaac Sasson, Lean, mean posting machine! Sonork ID 100.13704

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                                          Domenic [CPUA 0x1337] wrote: 1) I actually kind of do... Been there, done that. I know exactly where you stand, I've gone through a similar path. Only now do I realize school was my life back then, and my social life kinda sucked. Later on that changed dramatically to the other extreme. What I'm trying to say is that you should try to balance your academic life and your social life. You can sacrifice an A+ for an just and A and a couple more hours of hanging around with your classmates. Besides, what you are doing now is nothing compared to what's expecting you, Algebra and Geometry are just the beginning of the beginning... so pace yourself...soon you'll wish you took it slowly... Domenic [CPUA 0x1337] wrote: 2) My game wasn't really that interesting in the first place Start a new one. An improved one. One you like. Sketch some graphics of your own, when the game is almost completed start worrying about getting better graphics. When you're close to the finish line you're motivated to complete the track, when you're just starting it looks as if you'll never make it... Domenic [CPUA 0x1337] wrote: 3) If I were to start again, I'd have to go back to the horror that is C++ If I could start again I'd climb a tree and eat a bannana. Domenic [CPUA 0x1337] wrote: 4) I still program quite frequently Good! Well...ah...carry on! Just remember that you'll have your whole life to study and to program, but your childhood or teenage period will only happen once - don't spend them near electrical appliances! Spend them with friends, booze and girls... Oh! you're 13! forget about the booze and the girls for now... :-D :-D :-D Isaac Sasson, Lean, mean posting machine! Sonork ID 100.13704

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                                          Isaac Sasson wrote: Been there, done that. I know exactly where you stand, I've gone through a similar path. Only now do I realize school was my life back then, and my social life kinda sucked. Later on that changed dramatically to the other extreme. The only problem with this plan is that my classmates are dumb. I don't like socializing anyway, I kind of find it a waste of time. Who needs a social life, when I have the internet with a world of computer professionals who have discussions actuallly at my level? Isaac Sasson wrote: You can sacrifice an A+ for an just and A and a couple more hours of hanging around with your classmates. :omg: There shall be no sacrifices! EVER! Isaac Sasson wrote: If I could start again I'd climb a tree and eat a bannana. Call me dumb, but I can't see the relevance at all. Isaac Sasson wrote: Just remember that you'll have your whole life to study and to program, but your childhood or teenage period will only happen once - don't spend them near electrical appliances! Why ever not? I don't see any gain in spending them with anyone else -- I guess it's just the way I am. These "electrical appliances" can bring to life a whole world on the internet, a world where I can learn, build, create, apply, and collaberate. Why waste my time on something as boring as real people? Why spend time on relationships when I can increase my store of knowledge? I guess it's simply a matter of differing priorities. I have a very convoluted (or, I suppose, simply different) system of beliefs about life, based upon the axiom that intellectual thought and knowledge are held above all. Others seek happiness, or religion ( X| ), or just "girls and booze," as you put it. I find these things to be unimportant, and do everything I can to drive for intellectual perfection. Socializing is dull, but thinking brings a purpose to life. Isaac Sasson wrote: Spend them with friends, booze and girls... Friends? My friends are all dumb. The only ones who even approach my level of intellectual functioning are computer illeterate socialites. Not many options open there. I find this a very interesting conversation, and would love to continue it. However, since this thread is getting very long and hard to track down, maybe we could continue by e-mail? I am very intrigued by your opinion. Thanks! Cya L8R <

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