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But then the eldest son on being asked the question once more says, "Yes, each of the last two 'noes' (that's the plural of 'no')
gave me some information, and I now know (no plural of 'knows') how many sheeps each of us will inherit."How do you explain this ? Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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Universal DBA | Ajax Rating | ExplorerTreeneither of the other two knew how many sheeps the eldest had inherited and the yongest did not know how many sheeps the middle son had inherited. the eldest son, knowing how many sheeps he had inherited could deduce the correct number for the other two.
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Hum... Being 5-3-2 (10) The last son, having 2, knows for sure that it's 5-3-2, it cannot be 4-4-2, 6-2-2, nor 7-1-2. Being 5-4-1 (10) The second son, having 4, knows for sure it's 5-4-1, it cannot be 6-4-0 Being 5-3-1 (9) The first son, having 5, knows for sure it's 5-3-1, it cannot be 5-4-0 nor 5-2-2 Being 6-2-1 (9) The middle son, having 2, knows for sure it's 6-2-1, it cannot be 7-2-0, nor 5-2-2 If the middle son cannot have as much sheep as it's brothers, maybe he just doesn't have sheep? So the first son knows that his brother has (X - the numbe of sheeps he owns). JFarceur
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The old man likely had 10 sheep or less.
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neither of the other two knew how many sheeps the eldest had inherited and the yongest did not know how many sheeps the middle son had inherited. the eldest son, knowing how many sheeps he had inherited could deduce the correct number for the other two.
If the youngest knew he had 2 sheeps and TOTAL is 10 then WHY WOULD HE SAY NO when he is asked Because if he had got 2 5,3,2 is the only option 1,7,2 is not an option 1st not HIGHEST 2,6,2 is not an option 1st not HIGHEST 3,5,2 is not an option 1st not HIGHEST 4,4,2 is not an option 1st not HIGHEST 6,2,2 is not an option Last not LEAST 7,1,2 is not an option Last not LEAST Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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The old man likely had 10 sheep or less. Which means each son receives less than ten. Obviously the first son didn't recieve 7 or more because then his brothers would get none or else he would have known the answer (7,2,1). By the same logic we know that the middle son did not get 2 or he would have known the answer same with the youngest. 6,2,2 is not valid because the youngest does not get the least. Therefore 5, 3, 2 is the only available answer assuming the father has 10 sheep. If the father had less than 10 sheep the boys would have known the answer on the first round of questioning. If the oldest son gets less than 5 sheep the father does not have 10 sheep. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane
If the youngest knew he had 2 sheeps and TOTAL is 10 then WHY WOULD HE SAY NO when he is asked Because if he had got 2 5,3,2 is the only option 1,7,2 is not an option 1st not HIGHEST 2,6,2 is not an option 1st not HIGHEST 3,5,2 is not an option 1st not HIGHEST 4,4,2 is not an option 1st not HIGHEST 6,2,2 is not an option Last not LEAST 7,1,2 is not an option Last not LEAST Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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A guy is owner of a certain number of sheeps for god's sakes and also the father of three sons who for some reason are expert logicians like Cpians So here comes the question Clever as you are will think to yourself, now all this guy needs is to believe he's about to die so that he can make a will to divide the sheeps among the sons, right? Right, Except He calls them together (the sons, not the sheeps) and tells them how many sheeps (not sons) he owns AND Adds that 1. The eldest will inherit the most sheeps 2. The youngest the least 3. Nobody having more than 10 sheeps, which as we all know is a crime. 4. He then whispers in each son's ear how many sheeps he personally will inherit. After that he proceeds from the eldest to the youngest, asking each ALOUD if he can calculate how many sheeps each of his brothers will inherit and each replies, "NO". He does it again and again each replies, "No" But then the eldest son on being asked the question once more says, "Yes, each of the last two 'noes' (that's the plural of 'no') gave me some information, and I now know (no plural of 'knows') how many sheeps each of us will inherit." What's the bet you're already wondering how may sheeps each son will get?
QUESTION IS HOW MANY SHEEPS EACH ONE WILL GETeasy ????? are you ready to take the challenge ? ha ha ha can you hear me laughing * OK try this easy one Can you tell me the only common word in english literature which has U , F, and A somewhere in the word in the same sequence HINT FOR THE FIRST QUESTIONQuartz... wrote:
He calls them together (the sons, not the sheeps) and tells them how many sheeps (not sons) he owns AND Adds that 3. Nobody having more than 10 sheeps, which as we all know is a crime.
This ONLY says that the sons cannot have more than 10 sheeps nothing else * NO POINTS WITHOUT EXPLAINATION Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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A guy is owner of a certain number of sheeps for god's sakes and also the father of three sons who for some reason are expert logicians like Cpians So here comes the question Clever as you are will think to yourself, now all this guy needs is to believe he's about to die so that he can make a will to divide the sheeps among the sons, right? Right, Except He calls them together (the sons, not the sheeps) and tells them how many sheeps (not sons) he owns AND Adds that 1. The eldest will inherit the most sheeps 2. The youngest the least 3. Nobody having more than 10 sheeps, which as we all know is a crime. 4. He then whispers in each son's ear how many sheeps he personally will inherit. After that he proceeds from the eldest to the youngest, asking each ALOUD if he can calculate how many sheeps each of his brothers will inherit and each replies, "NO". He does it again and again each replies, "No" But then the eldest son on being asked the question once more says, "Yes, each of the last two 'noes' (that's the plural of 'no') gave me some information, and I now know (no plural of 'knows') how many sheeps each of us will inherit." What's the bet you're already wondering how may sheeps each son will get?
QUESTION IS HOW MANY SHEEPS EACH ONE WILL GETeasy ????? are you ready to take the challenge ? ha ha ha can you hear me laughing * OK try this easy one Can you tell me the only common word in english literature which has U , F, and A somewhere in the word in the same sequence HINT FOR THE FIRST QUESTIONQuartz... wrote:
He calls them together (the sons, not the sheeps) and tells them how many sheeps (not sons) he owns AND Adds that 3. Nobody having more than 10 sheeps, which as we all know is a crime.
This ONLY says that the sons cannot have more than 10 sheeps nothing else * NO POINTS WITHOUT EXPLAINATION Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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Universal DBA | Ajax Rating | ExplorerTree -- mThreads are all mixed up when it ends, could you please post the solution under your original post ? I'll give a try to the easy part... since I assume you're not talking UFAs (unrestricted free-agents) I'll try manufacturing thanks!
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IF THE QUESTION IS RIGHT THAT MEANS THE ASSUMPTIONS ARE WRONG right or wrong ? Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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Universal DBA | Ajax Rating | ExplorerTreeNever make assumptions...write unit tests and be sure about it! :)
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IF THE QUESTION IS RIGHT THAT MEANS THE ASSUMPTIONS ARE WRONG right or wrong ? Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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Universal DBA | Ajax Rating | ExplorerTreeright only answer I can come up is that's it's not possible with the constraints, but don't feel like spending a summer night proving it :) Waiting for the answer and would be curious to be proven wrong.
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A guy is owner of a certain number of sheeps for god's sakes and also the father of three sons who for some reason are expert logicians like Cpians So here comes the question Clever as you are will think to yourself, now all this guy needs is to believe he's about to die so that he can make a will to divide the sheeps among the sons, right? Right, Except He calls them together (the sons, not the sheeps) and tells them how many sheeps (not sons) he owns AND Adds that 1. The eldest will inherit the most sheeps 2. The youngest the least 3. Nobody having more than 10 sheeps, which as we all know is a crime. 4. He then whispers in each son's ear how many sheeps he personally will inherit. After that he proceeds from the eldest to the youngest, asking each ALOUD if he can calculate how many sheeps each of his brothers will inherit and each replies, "NO". He does it again and again each replies, "No" But then the eldest son on being asked the question once more says, "Yes, each of the last two 'noes' (that's the plural of 'no') gave me some information, and I now know (no plural of 'knows') how many sheeps each of us will inherit." What's the bet you're already wondering how may sheeps each son will get?
QUESTION IS HOW MANY SHEEPS EACH ONE WILL GETeasy ????? are you ready to take the challenge ? ha ha ha can you hear me laughing * OK try this easy one Can you tell me the only common word in english literature which has U , F, and A somewhere in the word in the same sequence HINT FOR THE FIRST QUESTIONQuartz... wrote:
He calls them together (the sons, not the sheeps) and tells them how many sheeps (not sons) he owns AND Adds that 3. Nobody having more than 10 sheeps, which as we all know is a crime.
This ONLY says that the sons cannot have more than 10 sheeps nothing else * NO POINTS WITHOUT EXPLAINATION Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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Universal DBA | Ajax Rating | ExplorerTree -- mQuartz... wrote:
He calls them together (the sons, not the sheeps) and tells them how many sheeps (not sons) he owns AND Adds that 3. Nobody having more than 10 sheeps, which as we all know is a crime.
This ONLY says that the sons cannot have more than 10 sheeps nothing else Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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Threads are all mixed up when it ends, could you please post the solution under your original post ? I'll give a try to the easy part... since I assume you're not talking UFAs (unrestricted free-agents) I'll try manufacturing thanks!
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when it ends, could you please post the solution under your original post ?
ofcourse
HollyHooo wrote:
since I assume you're not talking UFAs (unrestricted free-agents) I'll try manufacturing
perfect :-> Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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Very nice analysis but whats the answer you said ? i am not able to figure out from your explaination Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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IF THE QUESTION IS RIGHT THAT MEANS THE ASSUMPTIONS ARE WRONG right or wrong ? Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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Quartz... wrote:
He calls them together (the sons, not the sheeps) and tells them how many sheeps (not sons) he owns AND Adds that 3. Nobody having more than 10 sheeps, which as we all know is a crime.
This ONLY says that the sons cannot have more than 10 sheeps nothing else Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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Nobody means nobody , not "son" EDIT : CHANGE YOUR ENIGMA, IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE JFarceur -- modified at 21:57 Thursday 13th July, 2006
He summoned all teh three sons and he is talking to them and He announces that --> nobody gets more than 10 that means only son, Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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I suppose that there is no answer, unless the old man is a criminal, which is my answer. JFarceur
ok assume that "more than 10" principle doesn't applies to old man Can you get an answer now ? Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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A guy is owner of a certain number of sheeps for god's sakes and also the father of three sons who for some reason are expert logicians like Cpians So here comes the question Clever as you are will think to yourself, now all this guy needs is to believe he's about to die so that he can make a will to divide the sheeps among the sons, right? Right, Except He calls them together (the sons, not the sheeps) and tells them how many sheeps (not sons) he owns AND Adds that 1. The eldest will inherit the most sheeps 2. The youngest the least 3. Nobody having more than 10 sheeps, which as we all know is a crime. 4. He then whispers in each son's ear how many sheeps he personally will inherit. After that he proceeds from the eldest to the youngest, asking each ALOUD if he can calculate how many sheeps each of his brothers will inherit and each replies, "NO". He does it again and again each replies, "No" But then the eldest son on being asked the question once more says, "Yes, each of the last two 'noes' (that's the plural of 'no') gave me some information, and I now know (no plural of 'knows') how many sheeps each of us will inherit." What's the bet you're already wondering how may sheeps each son will get?
QUESTION IS HOW MANY SHEEPS EACH ONE WILL GETeasy ????? are you ready to take the challenge ? ha ha ha can you hear me laughing * OK try this easy one Can you tell me the only common word in english literature which has U , F, and A somewhere in the word in the same sequence HINT FOR THE FIRST QUESTIONQuartz... wrote:
He calls them together (the sons, not the sheeps) and tells them how many sheeps (not sons) he owns AND Adds that 3. Nobody having more than 10 sheeps, which as we all know is a crime.
This ONLY says that the sons cannot have more than 10 sheeps nothing else * NO POINTS WITHOUT EXPLAINATION Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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Universal DBA | Ajax Rating | ExplorerTree -- mDARN , SORRY GUYS IF I GOT YOU CONFUSED OK "MORE THAN 10 RULE" does not applies to the OLD MAN HE WAS ANNOUNCING TO THE SONS THAT
Nobody having (**INHERITING**) more than 10 sheeps, which as we all know is a crime.CRIME HERE WAS INHERITING MORE THAN 10 SHEEPS, NOT OWNING MORE THAN 10 SHEEPSANY SOLUTIONS NOW Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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DARN , SORRY GUYS IF I GOT YOU CONFUSED OK "MORE THAN 10 RULE" does not applies to the OLD MAN HE WAS ANNOUNCING TO THE SONS THAT
Nobody having (**INHERITING**) more than 10 sheeps, which as we all know is a crime.CRIME HERE WAS INHERITING MORE THAN 10 SHEEPS, NOT OWNING MORE THAN 10 SHEEPSANY SOLUTIONS NOW Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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Universal DBA | Ajax Rating | ExplorerTreeQuartz... wrote:
ANY SOLUTIONS NOW
yes please
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A guy is owner of a certain number of sheeps for god's sakes and also the father of three sons who for some reason are expert logicians like Cpians So here comes the question Clever as you are will think to yourself, now all this guy needs is to believe he's about to die so that he can make a will to divide the sheeps among the sons, right? Right, Except He calls them together (the sons, not the sheeps) and tells them how many sheeps (not sons) he owns AND Adds that 1. The eldest will inherit the most sheeps 2. The youngest the least 3. Nobody having more than 10 sheeps, which as we all know is a crime. 4. He then whispers in each son's ear how many sheeps he personally will inherit. After that he proceeds from the eldest to the youngest, asking each ALOUD if he can calculate how many sheeps each of his brothers will inherit and each replies, "NO". He does it again and again each replies, "No" But then the eldest son on being asked the question once more says, "Yes, each of the last two 'noes' (that's the plural of 'no') gave me some information, and I now know (no plural of 'knows') how many sheeps each of us will inherit." What's the bet you're already wondering how may sheeps each son will get?
QUESTION IS HOW MANY SHEEPS EACH ONE WILL GETeasy ????? are you ready to take the challenge ? ha ha ha can you hear me laughing * OK try this easy one Can you tell me the only common word in english literature which has U , F, and A somewhere in the word in the same sequence HINT FOR THE FIRST QUESTIONQuartz... wrote:
He calls them together (the sons, not the sheeps) and tells them how many sheeps (not sons) he owns AND Adds that 3. Nobody having more than 10 sheeps, which as we all know is a crime.
This ONLY says that the sons cannot have more than 10 sheeps nothing else * NO POINTS WITHOUT EXPLAINATION Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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Universal DBA | Ajax Rating | ExplorerTree -- mthe sons can have 10, 6 and 3 Sheeps OR 9, 7 and 3 sheeps
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