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  • R Red Stateler

    Another lie. If all generalities are wrong, then the generalization you just made about generalities must therefore be wrong. It's almost impossible not to lie.

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    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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    I told a woman once that her butt did look fat. As for the statement, it is just a logical paradox that proves itself while disproving itself. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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      Why? Why? Why? -- modified at 10:39 Monday 17th July, 2006

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      Dave Kreskowiak
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      I'll tell you, but you shouldn't believe me... Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

        I told a woman once that her butt did look fat. As for the statement, it is just a logical paradox that proves itself while disproving itself. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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        Red Stateler
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        Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

        I told a woman once that her butt did look fat.

        Only once? Then you ARE a liar!

        Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

        As for the statement, it is just a logical paradox that proves itself while disproving itself.

        It is unless you know this fact, then state it as though it's truth. Then it becomes a lie. Of course it wouldn't be a lie if you failed to recognize it as fallacy before stating it.

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          John, You are someone I adore.

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          Mircea Grelus
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          :laugh: regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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          • R Red Stateler

            Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

            I told a woman once that her butt did look fat.

            Only once? Then you ARE a liar!

            Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

            As for the statement, it is just a logical paradox that proves itself while disproving itself.

            It is unless you know this fact, then state it as though it's truth. Then it becomes a lie. Of course it wouldn't be a lie if you failed to recognize it as fallacy before stating it.

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            Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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            Stating a common paradox does not make me a liar. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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            • N Nish Nishant

              QAck wrote:

              Why? Why? Why?

              It's part of social etiquette to lie. When you say good morning or good day to someone, you rarely mean it. Same for "good to meet you", "you look beautiful", "that's a nice dress", "how are you" etc. Social rules train us to lie to people. Regards, Nish


              Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
              Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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              J Dunlap
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              Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

              When you say good morning or good day to someone, you rarely mean it. Same for "good to meet you", "you look beautiful", "that's a nice dress", "how are you" etc.

              Hmm... when I say those things I usually mean it.

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                :laugh: regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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                ;):rose:

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                • Q QAck

                  Why? Why? Why? -- modified at 10:39 Monday 17th July, 2006

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                  Theoretially its impossible not to lie. Language is corrupt. Almost all of it depends on inference and figuring out what the other person is saying. You just don't have the proper decryption algorithm. We had an experiment in school when first learning C++. And it was all about how much we take for granted in our speech. The first lesson was that the compiler does what its told literally, no figurative mechanism. No, language is corrupt. Look at me sig. This statement is false.

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                    I'll tell you, but you shouldn't believe me... Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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                    :laugh:

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                    • C Chris S Kaiser

                      Theoretially its impossible not to lie. Language is corrupt. Almost all of it depends on inference and figuring out what the other person is saying. You just don't have the proper decryption algorithm. We had an experiment in school when first learning C++. And it was all about how much we take for granted in our speech. The first lesson was that the compiler does what its told literally, no figurative mechanism. No, language is corrupt. Look at me sig. This statement is false.

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                      QAck
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                      Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                      Almost all of it depends on inference and figuring out what the other person is saying

                      In college whenever we raise a question, the lecturer says, "I'll get back to you on this"

                      Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                      You just don't have the proper decryption algorithm.

                      from our experiences, we learnt to decrypt it perfectly:laugh:

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                      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                        Stating a common paradox does not make me a liar. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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                        It is if you try to present it as truth, knowing that it is not.

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                        • R Red Stateler

                          It is if you try to present it as truth, knowing that it is not.

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                          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                          You use it to show the obvious fallacy in someones arrogant assumption? A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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                          • R Red Stateler

                            Another lie. If all generalities are wrong, then the generalization you just made about generalities must therefore be wrong. It's almost impossible not to lie.

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                            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                              You use it to show the obvious fallacy in someones arrogant assumption? A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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                              Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                              You use it to show the obvious fallacy in someones arrogant assumption?

                              The facts that it wasn't arrogant, wasn't an assumption and your fallacy is irrelevant as I was stating a basic fact of human nature (as basic as saying all living people are alive) demonstrates that you're able to combine three lies in one sentence only minutes after claiming you never lie.

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                                Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                                Almost all of it depends on inference and figuring out what the other person is saying

                                In college whenever we raise a question, the lecturer says, "I'll get back to you on this"

                                Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                                You just don't have the proper decryption algorithm.

                                from our experiences, we learnt to decrypt it perfectly:laugh:

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                                Chris S Kaiser
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                                To decrypt a lie would be to get at its true meaning, meaning you would have the truth and it wouldn't be a lie anymore, so if your decrypting perfectly you wouldn't need to ask why people lie. :laugh: This statement is false.

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                                • J Jim Crafton

                                  Or the infamous, "Honey, does this dress make me look fat?" "No dear, you'd look beautiful in a burlap sack." "You're saying the dress looks like a burlap sack!!??" "Uh, no, just that you look great in what ever you choose to wear!" "So you don't like the dress?" "No, I..." "But you think it looks cheap?" "No, I..." "Are you seeing someone else? Do you even love me anymore?!!!" "But...", meanwhile a desparate search for the System Reset Button begins... ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                                  Lost User
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                                  The art of helping a man dig a hole under himself is so unappreciated :(( Elaine (innocent fluffy tigress) The tigress is here :-D

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                                  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                    I like to sleep well at night. I will, however, abstain from questions that do not deserve answering. And whenever a motorist stops and demands that I give them directions I will happily direct them the wrong way (Never yell at some one like you deserve directions, btw) and preferably to the nearest high crime zone. A nice link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar\_paradox A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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                                    Jeremy Falcon
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                                    Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                                    And whenever a motorist stops and demands that I give them directions I will happily direct them the wrong way (Never yell at some one like you deserve directions, btw) and preferably to the nearest high crime zone.

                                    That makes you a liar then. Look up the defintion of the word "lie". :) Jeremy Falcon

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                                    • J Jim Crafton

                                      Or the infamous, "Honey, does this dress make me look fat?" "No dear, you'd look beautiful in a burlap sack." "You're saying the dress looks like a burlap sack!!??" "Uh, no, just that you look great in what ever you choose to wear!" "So you don't like the dress?" "No, I..." "But you think it looks cheap?" "No, I..." "Are you seeing someone else? Do you even love me anymore?!!!" "But...", meanwhile a desparate search for the System Reset Button begins... ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                                      > "Honey, does this dress make me look fat?" Of course, the only correct answer to that one (to quote the wise Al Bundy) is "no, it's the fat that makes you look fat".

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