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As bad, if not worse than a "can't do" attitude is a "can do" one, in which the person continually fail to properly estimate the time and effort to "do". Of course, we all know what happens to "can't do" people. They get replaced with "can do" people, who really don't have a clue how to do. Marc Pensieve
Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
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As bad, if not worse than a "can't do" attitude is a "can do" one, in which the person continually fail to properly estimate the time and effort to "do". Of course, we all know what happens to "can't do" people. They get replaced with "can do" people, who really don't have a clue how to do. Marc Pensieve
Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
Optimism is a positive trait! Why must you always degrade my low time estimates? A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane
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As bad, if not worse than a "can't do" attitude is a "can do" one, in which the person continually fail to properly estimate the time and effort to "do". Of course, we all know what happens to "can't do" people. They get replaced with "can do" people, who really don't have a clue how to do. Marc Pensieve
Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
Marc Clifton wrote:
"can do" people who really don't have a clue how to do
Those are the ones to try to avoid.
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As bad, if not worse than a "can't do" attitude is a "can do" one, in which the person continually fail to properly estimate the time and effort to "do". Of course, we all know what happens to "can't do" people. They get replaced with "can do" people, who really don't have a clue how to do. Marc Pensieve
Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
Whatch it buddy, I resemble that remark. Ok, so a side question, how many people are good at time estimates? Do you account for lounge posts? I did construction with my dad as a teenager, and he could never estimate properly, always took longer than he bid for. Excellent carpenter, they all loved his work, but bad estimator. But then he was working for a set bid price and paid the penalty himself for this. I'll blame it on genetics. This statement is false.
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I followed something pretty close to Wally at times when dealing with difficult people and or bosses. I call it Marginal Compliance. Think of it a stylized social engineering of the boss, co-workerm and, customers. :) Luckily, I haven’t had to employ it in a long time. My current boss and most of my coworkers are great. But, when I used it in the past it was incredibly fun. A co-worker and I actually wrote a paper on it. We tried to get it published but, the management and business magazines that we submitted it to wanted noting to do with it since it was an indirect shot at all of the productivity gurus. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
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Whatch it buddy, I resemble that remark. Ok, so a side question, how many people are good at time estimates? Do you account for lounge posts? I did construction with my dad as a teenager, and he could never estimate properly, always took longer than he bid for. Excellent carpenter, they all loved his work, but bad estimator. But then he was working for a set bid price and paid the penalty himself for this. I'll blame it on genetics. This statement is false.
Chris S Kaiser wrote:
they all loved his work, but bad estimator
Something I've had to work on quite a bit - and still do. :sigh: [But then I usually get contracts for tasks that involve a lot of things that most people don't know, that I know in my head how to do, but haven't actually done fully in practice.]
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Whatch it buddy, I resemble that remark. Ok, so a side question, how many people are good at time estimates? Do you account for lounge posts? I did construction with my dad as a teenager, and he could never estimate properly, always took longer than he bid for. Excellent carpenter, they all loved his work, but bad estimator. But then he was working for a set bid price and paid the penalty himself for this. I'll blame it on genetics. This statement is false.
Chris S Kaiser wrote:
how many people are good at time estimates?
I personally feel that I do an okay job at time estimates. I did my Master's Thesis studying the Personal Software Process (PSP). I feel that in order to be good at time estimates, one should be well experienced and have a good understanding of his or her abilities :)
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Whatch it buddy, I resemble that remark. Ok, so a side question, how many people are good at time estimates? Do you account for lounge posts? I did construction with my dad as a teenager, and he could never estimate properly, always took longer than he bid for. Excellent carpenter, they all loved his work, but bad estimator. But then he was working for a set bid price and paid the penalty himself for this. I'll blame it on genetics. This statement is false.
Chris S Kaiser wrote:
how many people are good at time estimates?
I'm actually fairly good at it, but yes, I understand your point. :)
Chris S Kaiser wrote:
But then he was working for a set bid price and paid the penalty himself for this.
I have a contractor acquaintance that is this problem. And it's worse for him because he subcontracts a lot of work. Apparently, he loses money on a lot of projects. Marc Pensieve
Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
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I followed something pretty close to Wally at times when dealing with difficult people and or bosses. I call it Marginal Compliance. Think of it a stylized social engineering of the boss, co-workerm and, customers. :) Luckily, I haven’t had to employ it in a long time. My current boss and most of my coworkers are great. But, when I used it in the past it was incredibly fun. A co-worker and I actually wrote a paper on it. We tried to get it published but, the management and business magazines that we submitted it to wanted noting to do with it since it was an indirect shot at all of the productivity gurus. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
Chris Austin wrote:
We tried to get it published but,
Do I smell a Code Project article? This statement is false.
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Chris S Kaiser wrote:
how many people are good at time estimates?
I'm actually fairly good at it, but yes, I understand your point. :)
Chris S Kaiser wrote:
But then he was working for a set bid price and paid the penalty himself for this.
I have a contractor acquaintance that is this problem. And it's worse for him because he subcontracts a lot of work. Apparently, he loses money on a lot of projects. Marc Pensieve
Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
For my dad it translated to lost time. Or rather a lower wage. This statement is false.
