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Hasbona Allah wa ne3ma alwakeel I don’t know if it is real or not but it is not new for Israeli's to kill women and children with on the right and cry the hell out of their faces for a tiny scar, it is a nation known of laying and deceiving since the age of Moses or else tell me why are they attacking Lebanon this hard unless it is useful for them why are they attacking Lebanese infrastructure ,I am against killing any civilian any man ,any woman and of course any child whether it was Muslim Christian Jewish or what ever a human being is a sole no matter race or religion ,hope to hear some sense if it is not so we Arabs have to get united against this brutal attack economically and warlike La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
DODO wrote:
is a nation known of laying and deceiving since the age of Moses
that's pure pigshit.
DODO wrote:
else tell me why are they attacking Lebanon this hard
because Lebanon allowed Hezbollah to build a terrorist / war machine near the Israeli border with 1,000s of missles capable of striking civilians and Hezbollah is supported and funded with monies from Iran and armed by Syria - all committed to the destruction of Israel. It was time for Israel to destroy all of that. Had Lebanon held up their end of UN agreements that they disarm Hezbollah, this wouldn't have happened. Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors.
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Yes, I believe there was a lovely custom in Yemen where when a Muslim was convicted of murdering a Jew protected by another tribe would be punished by having another Jew killed that was protected by his own. Oh, and they were living in subjugation, not peace - during the 19th century were not allowed to wear new clothes or ride animals and were subject to exorbitant taxation. Submission is not peace. Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
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Submission is not peace. of course it is not but where did you get this from, my sister in law is from Yemen and she said other wise, any way my grand ma had a Jewish neighbor who left Egypt after 1973 war they used to bake cookies for Muslim Byram(Muslim festival) together and eat in Ramadan (fasting month for Muslims) together in my grand ma's house and vise versa ,that what I heard in my family , don’t believe every thing you hear, speaking your way do you know what the Israeli army did to pregnant women in sabra and shatila , search as I cant speak more about this La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
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I think if you know nothing about something you better not get in a discussion about it,I believe you have never met a Muslim in your life who spoke to you honestly about Islam ,if I called my self Merlin Monro does this make me as beautiful as she was,so if any one goes to a market kills innocent people and himself and calls him self a Muslim that does not mean he is ,you can call your self whatever you want ! one thing ,prophet Mohamed Peace be upon him used to conqure in daylight never at night do you know why,so as not to scare children and panic pregnent women is this a terrorist act ? La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
Nope, but the slaughter of 6-900 'men' (old enough to have grown pubes) from the Banu Qurayza tribe sure was. A competent general he certainly was, though not up to the standards of Alexander. A reasonable lawmaker for his time and place. A prophet.. no. Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
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DODO wrote:
is a nation known of laying and deceiving since the age of Moses
that's pure pigshit.
DODO wrote:
else tell me why are they attacking Lebanon this hard
because Lebanon allowed Hezbollah to build a terrorist / war machine near the Israeli border with 1,000s of missles capable of striking civilians and Hezbollah is supported and funded with monies from Iran and armed by Syria - all committed to the destruction of Israel. It was time for Israel to destroy all of that. Had Lebanon held up their end of UN agreements that they disarm Hezbollah, this wouldn't have happened. Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors.
Actually, they are targetting Hezbollah positions inside Lebanon, not Lebanon itself. There is quite a difference between the two.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
DODO wrote:
is a nation known of laying and deceiving since the age of Moses
that's pure pigshit.
DODO wrote:
else tell me why are they attacking Lebanon this hard
because Lebanon allowed Hezbollah to build a terrorist / war machine near the Israeli border with 1,000s of missles capable of striking civilians and Hezbollah is supported and funded with monies from Iran and armed by Syria - all committed to the destruction of Israel. It was time for Israel to destroy all of that. Had Lebanon held up their end of UN agreements that they disarm Hezbollah, this wouldn't have happened. Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors.
Oh since when did Israel the good and obedient country held up any UN agreement and if so Hezballah,Iran and Syria if they are together as you said and don’t forget Lebanon who is under the attack if all these countries together on one side wouldn’t they have destroyed Israel ,please think before you believe in something I think you have some logic as a programmer and why did not the Lebanese army responded to all these attacks La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
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Actually, they are targetting Hezbollah positions inside Lebanon, not Lebanon itself. There is quite a difference between the two.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Oh since when did Israel the good and obedient country held up any UN agreement and if so Hezballah,Iran and Syria if they are together as you said and don’t forget Lebanon who is under the attack if all these countries together on one side wouldn’t they have destroyed Israel ,please think before you believe in something I think you have some logic as a programmer and why did not the Lebanese army responded to all these attacks La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
Israel does what it needs to survive as a people. if the countries and peoples on its' border focused on attempting to live a civilized life instead of Israel's destruction then there would be no problem. How's that for logic? Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors.
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Nope, but the slaughter of 6-900 'men' (old enough to have grown pubes) from the Banu Qurayza tribe sure was. A competent general he certainly was, though not up to the standards of Alexander. A reasonable lawmaker for his time and place. A prophet.. no. Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
the case of Banu Qurayza was a war after wards their was a peace between Muslim and this tribe there was a huge number of deaths between Muslims back then and there was not 6-900 slaughtered as you said ,please state your reference so as I can get back to you with true information La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
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DODO wrote:
hope to hear some sense if it is not so we Arabs have to get united against this brutal attack economically and warlike
Hey, after the brave masses of moderate muslims finish Israel off, do you think you could hang together long enough to do something about all those fucking Islamic terrorists? "You have no concept of the depth and complexity of my beliefs." Jim A. Johnson
Stan Shannon wrote:
after the brave masses of moderate muslims finish Israel off,
Like you,we also hate terrorism.Last time I heard you were agaisnt terrorism?Why re you being an obstacle? Its better to getrid of root of all devils
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War, irrespective of the cause/reason/justification, irrespective of the combatants, is a dirty business. Those pictures appear to be valid. Also see 1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5193662.stm[^] 2. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5193404.stm[^] 3. http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13533752,00.html[^] 4. http://www.itn.co.uk/news/headlines_26ca3494efd56b9998b7824722b7f34d.html[^] and so on... But war doesn't need to be the first or only option. Other options that "civilised" society should employ is the paraphernalia of mediation. As Churchill once said "Jaw-Jaw is better than War-War". And anybody can submit pictures here (they probably require some verification) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4995300.stm[^]
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
But war doesn't need to be the first or only option. Other options that "civilised" society should employ is the paraphernalia of mediation.
Since the pullout in 2000, isreal's been waiting for the lebonese govt to hold up it's side of the bargin and police the border to stop the hezbola attacks. They haven't even tried to do so. There's no indication they ever will try to do so.
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Israel does what it needs to survive as a people. if the countries and peoples on its' border focused on attempting to live a civilized life instead of Israel's destruction then there would be no problem. How's that for logic? Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors.
What are you? a)american b)Israelite c)Zionist d)idiot e)moron f)All of the above
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Hasbona Allah wa ne3ma alwakeel I don’t know if it is real or not but it is not new for Israeli's to kill women and children with on the right and cry the hell out of their faces for a tiny scar, it is a nation known of laying and deceiving since the age of Moses or else tell me why are they attacking Lebanon this hard unless it is useful for them why are they attacking Lebanese infrastructure ,I am against killing any civilian any man ,any woman and of course any child whether it was Muslim Christian Jewish or what ever a human being is a sole no matter race or religion ,hope to hear some sense if it is not so we Arabs have to get united against this brutal attack economically and warlike La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
if yes then get ready to face quality troll and crap by this american cabal.
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What are you? a)american b)Israelite c)Zionist d)idiot e)moron f)All of the above
What I am not is a pig loving rag head. Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors.
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Israel does what it needs to survive as a people. if the countries and peoples on its' border focused on attempting to live a civilized life instead of Israel's destruction then there would be no problem. How's that for logic? Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors.
the world does not go around Israel,you are talking as if it was the only thing Muslims think about and it is not ,where did you get these ideas ? and it is not logic to leave every thing behind and think only of Israel's distruction La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
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the case of Banu Qurayza was a war after wards their was a peace between Muslim and this tribe there was a huge number of deaths between Muslims back then and there was not 6-900 slaughtered as you said ,please state your reference so as I can get back to you with true information La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
http://www.derafsh-kaviyani.com/english/quraiza.html[^]. The banu qurayza were in no way innocent angels, but this action was definitely breaking Mohammed's own rules of war, in sharp contrast to the humane (for the time at least) manner in which he had treated tribes he defeated earlier. I believe some Islamic sources consider it a later Jewish fiction that somehow made it into the hadith.. the Quran only mentions that some were killed and some where taken prisoner. Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
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the world does not go around Israel,you are talking as if it was the only thing Muslims think about and it is not ,where did you get these ideas ? and it is not logic to leave every thing behind and think only of Israel's distruction La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
DODO wrote:
the world does not go around Israel
I agree.
DODO wrote:
you are talking as if it was the only thing Muslims think about
sorry, I don't believe this either. what I do believe is that there are extremists that would destroy Israel in a heartbeat if they could. I don't mean to paint all Muslims with that brush, under our individual labels we're all human beings with similar hopes and dreams. Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors.
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I am not sure whether its real or propaganda, but I am pretty sure there is a lot of censoring going on in the media these days. Warning: There are gory images! http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.org/ Rob! PS. No flaming please! I am merely passing on what I received. Use your own judgement. -- modified at 3:03 Wednesday 19th July, 2006
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
But war doesn't need to be the first or only option. Other options that "civilised" society should employ is the paraphernalia of mediation.
Since the pullout in 2000, isreal's been waiting for the lebonese govt to hold up it's side of the bargin and police the border to stop the hezbola attacks. They haven't even tried to do so. There's no indication they ever will try to do so.
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As you know, until recently, Syria was pulling the Lebanon Government's strings. And Lebanon Government is presently unable to do anything to stop this current armed conflict.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
And Lebanon Government is presently unable to do anything to stop this current armed conflict.
Since Lebanon could do nothing, Israel has every right to fix this problem with these terrorists. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
And Lebanon Government is presently unable to do anything to stop this current armed conflict.
Since Lebanon could do nothing, Israel has every right to fix this problem with these terrorists. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
kgaddy wrote:
Israel has every right to fix this problem with these terrorists
By all means eliminate these terrorists on the battlefield. A Beirut housing estate is not a battlefield. It is a place filled with ordinary people - babies, children, pregnant women, and so on. Eliminate the terrorists but NOT extend it to the civilian population. You don't have to terror-bomb densely populated areas. This causes people to react to those acts of barbarity in a not very different way to how Americans reacted when the World Trade Centre buildings were terrorised to destruction. Violence breeds violence - it is a never ending catastophe.
