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Israel does what it needs to survive as a people. if the countries and peoples on its' border focused on attempting to live a civilized life instead of Israel's destruction then there would be no problem. How's that for logic? Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors.
the world does not go around Israel,you are talking as if it was the only thing Muslims think about and it is not ,where did you get these ideas ? and it is not logic to leave every thing behind and think only of Israel's distruction La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
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the case of Banu Qurayza was a war after wards their was a peace between Muslim and this tribe there was a huge number of deaths between Muslims back then and there was not 6-900 slaughtered as you said ,please state your reference so as I can get back to you with true information La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
http://www.derafsh-kaviyani.com/english/quraiza.html[^]. The banu qurayza were in no way innocent angels, but this action was definitely breaking Mohammed's own rules of war, in sharp contrast to the humane (for the time at least) manner in which he had treated tribes he defeated earlier. I believe some Islamic sources consider it a later Jewish fiction that somehow made it into the hadith.. the Quran only mentions that some were killed and some where taken prisoner. Ryan
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the world does not go around Israel,you are talking as if it was the only thing Muslims think about and it is not ,where did you get these ideas ? and it is not logic to leave every thing behind and think only of Israel's distruction La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
DODO wrote:
the world does not go around Israel
I agree.
DODO wrote:
you are talking as if it was the only thing Muslims think about
sorry, I don't believe this either. what I do believe is that there are extremists that would destroy Israel in a heartbeat if they could. I don't mean to paint all Muslims with that brush, under our individual labels we're all human beings with similar hopes and dreams. Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors.
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I am not sure whether its real or propaganda, but I am pretty sure there is a lot of censoring going on in the media these days. Warning: There are gory images! http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.org/ Rob! PS. No flaming please! I am merely passing on what I received. Use your own judgement. -- modified at 3:03 Wednesday 19th July, 2006
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
But war doesn't need to be the first or only option. Other options that "civilised" society should employ is the paraphernalia of mediation.
Since the pullout in 2000, isreal's been waiting for the lebonese govt to hold up it's side of the bargin and police the border to stop the hezbola attacks. They haven't even tried to do so. There's no indication they ever will try to do so.
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As you know, until recently, Syria was pulling the Lebanon Government's strings. And Lebanon Government is presently unable to do anything to stop this current armed conflict.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
And Lebanon Government is presently unable to do anything to stop this current armed conflict.
Since Lebanon could do nothing, Israel has every right to fix this problem with these terrorists. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
And Lebanon Government is presently unable to do anything to stop this current armed conflict.
Since Lebanon could do nothing, Israel has every right to fix this problem with these terrorists. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
kgaddy wrote:
Israel has every right to fix this problem with these terrorists
By all means eliminate these terrorists on the battlefield. A Beirut housing estate is not a battlefield. It is a place filled with ordinary people - babies, children, pregnant women, and so on. Eliminate the terrorists but NOT extend it to the civilian population. You don't have to terror-bomb densely populated areas. This causes people to react to those acts of barbarity in a not very different way to how Americans reacted when the World Trade Centre buildings were terrorised to destruction. Violence breeds violence - it is a never ending catastophe.
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kgaddy wrote:
Israel has every right to fix this problem with these terrorists
By all means eliminate these terrorists on the battlefield. A Beirut housing estate is not a battlefield. It is a place filled with ordinary people - babies, children, pregnant women, and so on. Eliminate the terrorists but NOT extend it to the civilian population. You don't have to terror-bomb densely populated areas. This causes people to react to those acts of barbarity in a not very different way to how Americans reacted when the World Trade Centre buildings were terrorised to destruction. Violence breeds violence - it is a never ending catastophe.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Eliminate the terrorists but NOT extend it to the civilian population. You don't have to terror-bomb densely populated areas. T
Get the terrorists to hang out in industrial parks instead of appartment buildings.
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War, irrespective of the cause/reason/justification, irrespective of the combatants, is a dirty business. Those pictures appear to be valid. Also see 1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5193662.stm[^] 2. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5193404.stm[^] 3. http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13533752,00.html[^] 4. http://www.itn.co.uk/news/headlines_26ca3494efd56b9998b7824722b7f34d.html[^] and so on... But war doesn't need to be the first or only option. Other options that "civilised" society should employ is the paraphernalia of mediation. As Churchill once said "Jaw-Jaw is better than War-War". And anybody can submit pictures here (they probably require some verification) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4995300.stm[^]
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
paraphernalia of mediation
Has anyone noticed the way American media has a self-imposed censorship against reporting civilian casualties and deaths in Lebanon? Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
paraphernalia of mediation
Has anyone noticed the way American media has a self-imposed censorship against reporting civilian casualties and deaths in Lebanon? Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Are they ashamed of the truth
They are too busy telling the story from the other side's point of view b/c thats what an person wants to see. Look at the home page of Fox news, the most fav "news" channel here in USA. Their motto is "We Report. You Decide.". (Translation: We brainwash you, you become zombie). Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
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kgaddy wrote:
Israel has every right to fix this problem with these terrorists
By all means eliminate these terrorists on the battlefield. A Beirut housing estate is not a battlefield. It is a place filled with ordinary people - babies, children, pregnant women, and so on. Eliminate the terrorists but NOT extend it to the civilian population. You don't have to terror-bomb densely populated areas. This causes people to react to those acts of barbarity in a not very different way to how Americans reacted when the World Trade Centre buildings were terrorised to destruction. Violence breeds violence - it is a never ending catastophe.
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What I am not is a pig loving rag head. Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
pig loving
Dont curse yourself!! Oh Fisticuffs, I Need Your Approval For I Am Misguided Without Your Awesome Insight Please Validate My Existence With You're Internet Powers By Pumpkinhead, Age 15 or something
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Are they ashamed of the truth
They are too busy telling the story from the other side's point of view b/c thats what an person wants to see. Look at the home page of Fox news, the most fav "news" channel here in USA. Their motto is "We Report. You Decide.". (Translation: We brainwash you, you become zombie). Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:
Translation: We brainwash you, you become zombie
:laugh: Oh Fisticuffs, I Need Your Approval For I Am Misguided Without Your Awesome Insight Please Validate My Existence With You're Internet Powers By Pumpkinhead, Age 15 or something
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these kids shoudnt be blamed.They are doing what they were taught by their elders. The person who should be blamed is that fat ass zionist woman who is actually obeying her Yahweh's order.
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these kids shoudnt be blamed.They are doing what they were taught by their elders. The person who should be blamed is that fat ass zionist woman who is actually obeying her Yahweh's order.
I agree. As a father, I know better than to have my son write on a missile. Especially if they can tip it over or something. But the adults appear content. Sick.
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I agree. As a father, I know better than to have my son write on a missile. Especially if they can tip it over or something. But the adults appear content. Sick.
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Just imagine, what would some people full of "logic" would do if these children were Arabs. Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
paraphernalia of mediation
Has anyone noticed the way American media has a self-imposed censorship against reporting civilian casualties and deaths in Lebanon? Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
Hmm, maybe you're seeing a different American media than I am, but I've seen a lebanese body count every day since this "affair" began. Perhaps you're just spreading lies and innuendo? Gotcha!
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Just imagine, what would some people full of "logic" would do if these children were Arabs. Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:
Just imagine, what would some people full of "logic" would do if these children were Arabs.
child bomber[^] child terrorist[^] yet another[^] and another[^] and another[^] what's your point? Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors.
