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  • J Josh Smith

    Mark Nischalke wrote:

    Had meeting with my manager in which he said I don't care if my developers don't document their code or if one can't pick up where the other left off. I just want them to write code faster to keep the client happy.

    Yikes! Sorry to hear that. Tell him that "documentation is a value-add which frees up cycles, thus allowing us to enable our core competencies to touch base with client-facing base-touching ball-parking circle-backing ballparks who touch base with client facing core competencies, enabling us to free up cycles which add value." (phew!) :-D

    :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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    Wow, I'm impressed and confused ;P

    only two letters away from being an asset

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      Wow, I'm impressed and confused ;P

      only two letters away from being an asset

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      Josh Smith
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      Mark Nischalke wrote:

      Wow, I'm impressed and confused

      Exactly. That might help you get what you want out of him. ;)

      :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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        Wow, I'm impressed and confused ;P

        only two letters away from being an asset

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        Paul Conrad
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        Mark Nischalke wrote:

        confused

        Never mind, didn't realize it was about Josh's post. I am impressed with it as well, and a little confused by it. I am sure it would put a manager into a loop that never breaks :)

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          You just have to sit back and say WTF:confused: Had meeting with my manager in which he said I don't care if my developers don't document their code or if one can't pick up where the other left off. I just want them to write code faster to keep the client happy. That was followed up by a conversation with the lead developer saying documentation is necessary in other places but we just write software here; we don't need it. :doh::confused::doh:

          only two letters away from being an asset

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          Chris Maunder
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          Mark Nischalke wrote:

          only two letters away from being an asset

          Love it!

          cheers, Chris Maunder

          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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            Mark Nischalke wrote:

            confused

            Never mind, didn't realize it was about Josh's post. I am impressed with it as well, and a little confused by it. I am sure it would put a manager into a loop that never breaks :)

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            Sorry, I meant it to be for Josh's post

            only two letters away from being an asset

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              Sorry, I meant it to be for Josh's post

              only two letters away from being an asset

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              Paul Conrad
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              You wrote: Sorry, I meant it to be for Josh's post No problem. After the dust settled from Josh's post, I figure it out :laugh:

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              • C Chris Maunder

                Mark Nischalke wrote:

                only two letters away from being an asset

                Love it!

                cheers, Chris Maunder

                CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                Actually had someone use that on me. Always remembered it. He didn't like my reply though. Kiss my asset ;P

                only two letters away from being an asset

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                  You just have to sit back and say WTF:confused: Had meeting with my manager in which he said I don't care if my developers don't document their code or if one can't pick up where the other left off. I just want them to write code faster to keep the client happy. That was followed up by a conversation with the lead developer saying documentation is necessary in other places but we just write software here; we don't need it. :doh::confused::doh:

                  only two letters away from being an asset

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                  Jon Sagara
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                  Leave. Now.

                  Jon Sagara When I grow up, I'm changing my name to Joe Kickass! My Site | My Blog | My Articles

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                  • J Josh Smith

                    Mark Nischalke wrote:

                    Wow, I'm impressed and confused

                    Exactly. That might help you get what you want out of him. ;)

                    :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                    I got what I wanted out of him. Signing my time sheet as I walked out the door ;P

                    only two letters away from being an asset

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                      Leave. Now.

                      Jon Sagara When I grow up, I'm changing my name to Joe Kickass! My Site | My Blog | My Articles

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                      I did

                      only two letters away from being an asset

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                        Actually had someone use that on me. Always remembered it. He didn't like my reply though. Kiss my asset ;P

                        only two letters away from being an asset

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                        Paul Conrad
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                        Mark Nischalke wrote:

                        He didn't like my reply though.

                        And what happened? Could he not handle the truth?

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                          You just have to sit back and say WTF:confused: Had meeting with my manager in which he said I don't care if my developers don't document their code or if one can't pick up where the other left off. I just want them to write code faster to keep the client happy. That was followed up by a conversation with the lead developer saying documentation is necessary in other places but we just write software here; we don't need it. :doh::confused::doh:

                          only two letters away from being an asset

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                          BrockVnm
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                          Mark Nischalke wrote:

                          Had meeting with my manager in which he said I don't care if my developers don't document their code or if one can't pick up where the other left off. I just want them to write code faster to keep the client happy.

                          Sounds like my office. When I first started working I asked for the documentation and they said the code was the documentation!

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                            Mark Nischalke wrote:

                            Had meeting with my manager in which he said I don't care if my developers don't document their code or if one can't pick up where the other left off. I just want them to write code faster to keep the client happy.

                            Sounds like my office. When I first started working I asked for the documentation and they said the code was the documentation!

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                            That disappoints me. One of the arguements here against documentation was, no one else does it. To which my reply was, yes they do. You've proven me wrong.:(( There is nothing left to do but give up on life :^):sigh: I'd use VB and code myself a knife, but it wouldn't do the job; it won't be very # you C ;P

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                              That disappoints me. One of the arguements here against documentation was, no one else does it. To which my reply was, yes they do. You've proven me wrong.:(( There is nothing left to do but give up on life :^):sigh: I'd use VB and code myself a knife, but it wouldn't do the job; it won't be very # you C ;P

                              only two letters away from being an asset

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                              Mark Nischalke wrote:

                              To which my reply was, yes they do. You've proven me wrong.

                              Hmmm, if it makes you feel better, I document all of my code and would not be caught with undocumented code. There is the idea of self-documenting code, but I am not sure about it. Does it really hurt to document the code. Come on, a comment every 3-5 lines or so can't really kill anyone.

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                                Mark Nischalke wrote:

                                To which my reply was, yes they do. You've proven me wrong.

                                Hmmm, if it makes you feel better, I document all of my code and would not be caught with undocumented code. There is the idea of self-documenting code, but I am not sure about it. Does it really hurt to document the code. Come on, a comment every 3-5 lines or so can't really kill anyone.

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                                Come on, a comment every 3-5 lines or so can't really kill anyone.

                                I agree. The arguement here was, "We don't have time for that". Again, WTF???:confused:

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                                  PaulC1972 wrote:

                                  Come on, a comment every 3-5 lines or so can't really kill anyone.

                                  I agree. The arguement here was, "We don't have time for that". Again, WTF???:confused:

                                  only two letters away from being an asset

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                                  Paul Conrad
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                                  Mark Nischalke wrote:

                                  We don't have time for that

                                  Sure there is time for it. Cut back on anti-productivity meetings :-D

                                  Mark Nischalke wrote:

                                  Again, WTF???

                                  Yeah, totally. How about the time spent by a new developer examining the code and trying to figure it out?

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                                  • J Josh Smith

                                    Mark Nischalke wrote:

                                    Had meeting with my manager in which he said I don't care if my developers don't document their code or if one can't pick up where the other left off. I just want them to write code faster to keep the client happy.

                                    Yikes! Sorry to hear that. Tell him that "documentation is a value-add which frees up cycles, thus allowing us to enable our core competencies to touch base with client-facing base-touching ball-parking circle-backing ballparks who touch base with client facing core competencies, enabling us to free up cycles which add value." (phew!) :-D

                                    :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                                      You just have to sit back and say WTF:confused: Had meeting with my manager in which he said I don't care if my developers don't document their code or if one can't pick up where the other left off. I just want them to write code faster to keep the client happy. That was followed up by a conversation with the lead developer saying documentation is necessary in other places but we just write software here; we don't need it. :doh::confused::doh:

                                      only two letters away from being an asset

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                                      Run away. Now.

                                      The tigress is here :-D

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                                        You just have to sit back and say WTF:confused: Had meeting with my manager in which he said I don't care if my developers don't document their code or if one can't pick up where the other left off. I just want them to write code faster to keep the client happy. That was followed up by a conversation with the lead developer saying documentation is necessary in other places but we just write software here; we don't need it. :doh::confused::doh:

                                        only two letters away from being an asset

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                                        Get the ol' resume updated - it's time to move on...

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