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  • B bob16972

    I had already changed that once, but apparently my "modify" did not stick. I saw a comment like yours coming right after I originally posted it so I thought Id modify it but technology apparently failed me. I went ahead and re-clarified it. The "DialogResult.OK" could potentially be valid in other namespaces so my statement should bear some weight. For what it's worth...

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    J Dunlap
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    Unlikely - but in the case that there is a clash you can rename one of them locally:

    using WFDialogResult = System.Windows.Forms.DialogResult;

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    • B bob16972

      I was just casually strolling through VB'land and came across a question that had a snippet with this in it... If Result = System.Windows.Forms.DialogResult.OK Then I'm not a .NET person so forgive my inexperienced eyes, but are they really serious? That's quite long winded for something so trivial and probably common place. It makes me embrace my simple native loving VC++ 6.0 even tighter. This is a sad world indeed if that's progress. We are just asking for a repetitive motion injury with coding like that!

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      The bit I don't get is why they have to store the result. The preceding line is almost certainly Dim Result as System.Windows.Forms.DialogResult = myForm.ShowDialog() Given that System.Windows.Forms is scope automatically anyhow, the code should look like this: if myForms.ShowDialog = DialogResult.OK Then

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        The bit I don't get is why they have to store the result. The preceding line is almost certainly Dim Result as System.Windows.Forms.DialogResult = myForm.ShowDialog() Given that System.Windows.Forms is scope automatically anyhow, the code should look like this: if myForms.ShowDialog = DialogResult.OK Then

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        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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        Christian Graus wrote:

        Given that System.Windows.Forms is scope automatically anyhow, the code should look like this: if myForms.ShowDialog = DialogResult.OK Then

        Automatic due to a Koenig-like lookup, or because the wizard has injected a using System.Windows.Forms line somewhere in the file? If the former, then :cool:

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        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

          Christian Graus wrote:

          Given that System.Windows.Forms is scope automatically anyhow, the code should look like this: if myForms.ShowDialog = DialogResult.OK Then

          Automatic due to a Koenig-like lookup, or because the wizard has injected a using System.Windows.Forms line somewhere in the file? If the former, then :cool:

          -- From the Makers of Futurama

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          Christian Graus
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          Latter, I am afraid. In C#, you also can't put a using statement for a single object in a namespace, AFAIK you can't do the equivelant of using std::cout;

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          • B bob16972

            "using" directives can cause name clashing, can they not?

            -- modified at 12:33 Saturday 22nd July, 2006 How exactly is someone reading the code supposed to know which namespace something is from? If you have 25 "using" statements, they are going to have a hard time tracking down which class to look up in MSDN to understand it's usage later on when somebody else is maintaining your code. Am I missing something?

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            bob16972 wrote:

            "using" directives can cause name clashing, can they not?

            Yes, but it's rare. The convenience of not having to always fully qualify type names far outweighs the possibility of name collisions. If a collision occurs, the compiler will let you know.

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            How exactly is someone reading the code supposed to know which namespace something is from? If you have 25 "using" statements, they are going to have a hard time tracking down which class to look up in MSDN to understand it's usage later on when somebody else is maintaining your code. Am I missing something?

            Yes: 1. The Visual Studio IDE is happy to show you a tool tip with the fully qualified name of the class when you hover over it. 2. Visual Studio is smart enough to bring up the proper help page for a class, even when it's not fully qualified. Regards, Alvaro


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            • A Alvaro Mendez

              bob16972 wrote:

              "using" directives can cause name clashing, can they not?

              Yes, but it's rare. The convenience of not having to always fully qualify type names far outweighs the possibility of name collisions. If a collision occurs, the compiler will let you know.

              bob16972 wrote:

              How exactly is someone reading the code supposed to know which namespace something is from? If you have 25 "using" statements, they are going to have a hard time tracking down which class to look up in MSDN to understand it's usage later on when somebody else is maintaining your code. Am I missing something?

              Yes: 1. The Visual Studio IDE is happy to show you a tool tip with the fully qualified name of the class when you hover over it. 2. Visual Studio is smart enough to bring up the proper help page for a class, even when it's not fully qualified. Regards, Alvaro


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              Thanks for the info! I guess I never really noticed all the potential information from hovering. Most of the time it's redundant to what's on the code page so I'm guessing I got used to blanking it out and ignoring it.

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              • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                Christian Graus wrote:

                Given that System.Windows.Forms is scope automatically anyhow, the code should look like this: if myForms.ShowDialog = DialogResult.OK Then

                Automatic due to a Koenig-like lookup, or because the wizard has injected a using System.Windows.Forms line somewhere in the file? If the former, then :cool:

                -- From the Makers of Futurama

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                Nemanja Trifunovic
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                Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                Automatic due to a Koenig-like lookup

                :-D You give them way too much credit, my friend.


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                • P peterchen

                  As far as house rule goes "Using namespace" in a header is off limits, but not in a cpp


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                  Igor Sukhov
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                  Thanks to the .NET we don't have to care about headers and source files, compilation and linking anymore. Does anybody know Microsoft plans for WTF (like Windows Transofrmation Foundation) abbreviation ?

                  Best regards, ----------- Igor Sukhovhttp://sukhov.net

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                    Thanks to the .NET we don't have to care about headers and source files, compilation and linking anymore. Does anybody know Microsoft plans for WTF (like Windows Transofrmation Foundation) abbreviation ?

                    Best regards, ----------- Igor Sukhovhttp://sukhov.net

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                    Thank god! using namespace "feels" ok in e.g. C# since it has a well defined scope. using namespace in a C++ header, otoh, is recipe for header-sorting disaster. The C++ compilation model is IMO the worst legacy about the language, and it would still be fixable.


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                    • B bob16972

                      I was just casually strolling through VB'land and came across a question that had a snippet with this in it... If Result = System.Windows.Forms.DialogResult.OK Then I'm not a .NET person so forgive my inexperienced eyes, but are they really serious? That's quite long winded for something so trivial and probably common place. It makes me embrace my simple native loving VC++ 6.0 even tighter. This is a sad world indeed if that's progress. We are just asking for a repetitive motion injury with coding like that!

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                      Lost User
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                      Its the same in C++, if you use namespaceing. What is bizarre is that OK, an oft used constant, should be buried so deep. I suppose it is consistent, but where would you put 'TRUE' and 'FALSE'? How about, System.Logic.Boolean.Dualisim.Values.TRUE. Or should that be System.Logic.Dualism.Boolean.Values.TRUE. Kind of makes you wonder where you fit 'mu' logic but there you go.

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