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    super
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    In this highly polarised world, it seems natural that even news media are biased in some way or other. So my qestion is, which news media(portal/network) do you prefer to get the facts of a particular issue?

    cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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      In this highly polarised world, it seems natural that even news media are biased in some way or other. So my qestion is, which news media(portal/network) do you prefer to get the facts of a particular issue?

      cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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      Farhan Noor Qureshi
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      (In no particular order) BBC, SMH, CNN, http://news.google.com[^], NYT, WP, The Dawn, The Guardian, Times, Times UK, Haaretz, Jerusalem Post, Boston Globe, San Francisco Chronicle, Times of India, etc.


      Farhan Noor Qureshi

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        In this highly polarised world, it seems natural that even news media are biased in some way or other. So my qestion is, which news media(portal/network) do you prefer to get the facts of a particular issue?

        cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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        Eric Dahlvang
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        I get most of my news here[^], but once in awhile I find something interesting here[^].

        --EricDV Sig--------- Some problems are so complex that you have to be highly intelligent and well informed just to be undecided about them. - Laurence J. Peters

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          In this highly polarised world, it seems natural that even news media are biased in some way or other. So my qestion is, which news media(portal/network) do you prefer to get the facts of a particular issue?

          cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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          Jim A Johnson
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          RawStory (www.rawstory.com) and al-Jazeera (can't remember the link, don't have it here)

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            In this highly polarised world, it seems natural that even news media are biased in some way or other. So my qestion is, which news media(portal/network) do you prefer to get the facts of a particular issue?

            cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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            Colin Angus Mackay
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            In the following order for general news: * BBC News[^] * The (Glasgow) Herald[^] * The Scotsman[^] For tech news: * Code Project[^] * The Register[^] * BBC News[^]


            Scottish Developers events: * .NET debugging, tracing and instrumentation by Duncan Edwards Jones and Code Coverage in .NET by Craig Murphy * Developer Day Scotland: are you interested in speaking or attending? My: Website | Blog

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              RawStory (www.rawstory.com) and al-Jazeera (can't remember the link, don't have it here)

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              Lost User
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              Jim A. Johnson wrote:

              al-Jazeera

              :omg:

              "The trouble with jogging is that the ice falls out of your glass." - Martin Mull

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              • S super

                In this highly polarised world, it seems natural that even news media are biased in some way or other. So my qestion is, which news media(portal/network) do you prefer to get the facts of a particular issue?

                cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                Alvaro Mendez
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                Online: http://news.google.com/[^] (my home page) On TV: MSNBC and Comedy Central Alvaro -- modified at 18:59 Monday 24th July, 2006

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                • S super

                  In this highly polarised world, it seems natural that even news media are biased in some way or other. So my qestion is, which news media(portal/network) do you prefer to get the facts of a particular issue?

                  cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                  Allah On Acid
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                  Al Jazeera, they have the most balanced news coverage, made more diverse by the religion of peace... Seriously though, i think Fox News[^] has the most balanced coverage. And yes i was being sarcastic about Al Jazeera for those of you are sarcasm impared

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                    RawStory (www.rawstory.com) and al-Jazeera (can't remember the link, don't have it here)

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                    Rob Graham
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                    That pair of choices certainly explains a lot about you.

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                      In the following order for general news: * BBC News[^] * The (Glasgow) Herald[^] * The Scotsman[^] For tech news: * Code Project[^] * The Register[^] * BBC News[^]


                      Scottish Developers events: * .NET debugging, tracing and instrumentation by Duncan Edwards Jones and Code Coverage in .NET by Craig Murphy * Developer Day Scotland: are you interested in speaking or attending? My: Website | Blog

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                      Allah On Acid
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                      Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                      BBC News[^]

                      BBC news has seemed to have a very liberal pro-Muslim, anti-Christianity, and anti-Israel bias behind it the times i have looked at it.

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                        Al Jazeera, they have the most balanced news coverage, made more diverse by the religion of peace... Seriously though, i think Fox News[^] has the most balanced coverage. And yes i was being sarcastic about Al Jazeera for those of you are sarcasm impared

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                        Mike Gaskey
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                        Seriously though, i think Fox News[^] has the most balanced coverage.

                        shhhh.

                        Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors.

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                          In this highly polarised world, it seems natural that even news media are biased in some way or other. So my qestion is, which news media(portal/network) do you prefer to get the facts of a particular issue?

                          cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                          Christian Graus
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                          Precisely because there is no such thing as an unbiased media, I try to read a variety of sources if I care enough to try to find out about something. I may also read blogs, but I don't make the mistake of presuming that someone who is in the thick of things actually understands what's going on, beyond how it affects them personally. Mostly, I accept that there is no real way to know what's going on in the world beyond some broad brush strokes.

                          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                            In this highly polarised world, it seems natural that even news media are biased in some way or other. So my qestion is, which news media(portal/network) do you prefer to get the facts of a particular issue?

                            cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                            Lost User
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                            The way things are now - The Onion.

                            The tigress is here :-D

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                              Al Jazeera, they have the most balanced news coverage, made more diverse by the religion of peace... Seriously though, i think Fox News[^] has the most balanced coverage. And yes i was being sarcastic about Al Jazeera for those of you are sarcasm impared

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                              Farhan Noor Qureshi
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                              Seriously though, i think Fox News[^] has the most balanced coverage.

                              Fox news is my favorite too. Heck I prefer it even over Comedy central.


                              Farhan Noor Qureshi

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                                Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                                BBC News[^]

                                BBC news has seemed to have a very liberal pro-Muslim, anti-Christianity, and anti-Israel bias behind it the times i have looked at it.

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                                Colin Angus Mackay
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                                liberal

                                liberal - from the latin meaning free. But somewhere along the way the word got bastardised in American English and so I suspect you don't really mean "liberal" as it is properly defined. I do mean liberal as it is properly defined and I am proud to say that I am a liberal person living in a liberal society.

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                                anti-Christianity

                                Obviously seeing as it is the company that brought the world such delights as "Songs of Praise"!

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                                pro-Muslim

                                I wouldn't say so. It seems to be balanced. Could it be that you are so anti-muslim that anything that is actually balanced looks "pro" to you?

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                                anti-Israel

                                Again - I look at the reports and they appear balanced to me. Could it be that they are actually trying to balance out the fact that the UK government seems to have conveniently forgotten about various UNSCRs - Most notably the Security Council's demand that Israel returns to its 1967 borders. One thing about the BBC is that, although it is a state supported organisation, each government has critisied it for being anti-incumbant and pro-opposition, meanwhile the opposition parties have lambasted it for being too pro-incumbent and anti-opposition. To me that suggests they are doing a good job of being fair and balanced by giving fair coverage to both sides for both the pros and cons.


                                Scottish Developers events: * .NET debugging, tracing and instrumentation by Duncan Edwards Jones and Code Coverage in .NET by Craig Murphy * Developer Day Scotland: are you interested in speaking or attending? My: Website | Blog

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                                  liberal

                                  liberal - from the latin meaning free. But somewhere along the way the word got bastardised in American English and so I suspect you don't really mean "liberal" as it is properly defined. I do mean liberal as it is properly defined and I am proud to say that I am a liberal person living in a liberal society.

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                                  anti-Christianity

                                  Obviously seeing as it is the company that brought the world such delights as "Songs of Praise"!

                                  Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:

                                  pro-Muslim

                                  I wouldn't say so. It seems to be balanced. Could it be that you are so anti-muslim that anything that is actually balanced looks "pro" to you?

                                  Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:

                                  anti-Israel

                                  Again - I look at the reports and they appear balanced to me. Could it be that they are actually trying to balance out the fact that the UK government seems to have conveniently forgotten about various UNSCRs - Most notably the Security Council's demand that Israel returns to its 1967 borders. One thing about the BBC is that, although it is a state supported organisation, each government has critisied it for being anti-incumbant and pro-opposition, meanwhile the opposition parties have lambasted it for being too pro-incumbent and anti-opposition. To me that suggests they are doing a good job of being fair and balanced by giving fair coverage to both sides for both the pros and cons.


                                  Scottish Developers events: * .NET debugging, tracing and instrumentation by Duncan Edwards Jones and Code Coverage in .NET by Craig Murphy * Developer Day Scotland: are you interested in speaking or attending? My: Website | Blog

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                                  Farhan Noor Qureshi
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                                  Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                                  Could it be that you are so anti-muslim that anything that is actually balanced looks "pro" to you?

                                  The dude watches Fox "news" and considers it "balanced" "most balanced". Go figure. :-D Edit: http://www.codeproject.com/script/comments/forums.asp?msg=1593234&forumid=2605#xx1593234xx[^] -- modified at 18:45 Monday 24th July, 2006

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                                    liberal

                                    liberal - from the latin meaning free. But somewhere along the way the word got bastardised in American English and so I suspect you don't really mean "liberal" as it is properly defined. I do mean liberal as it is properly defined and I am proud to say that I am a liberal person living in a liberal society.

                                    Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:

                                    anti-Christianity

                                    Obviously seeing as it is the company that brought the world such delights as "Songs of Praise"!

                                    Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:

                                    pro-Muslim

                                    I wouldn't say so. It seems to be balanced. Could it be that you are so anti-muslim that anything that is actually balanced looks "pro" to you?

                                    Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:

                                    anti-Israel

                                    Again - I look at the reports and they appear balanced to me. Could it be that they are actually trying to balance out the fact that the UK government seems to have conveniently forgotten about various UNSCRs - Most notably the Security Council's demand that Israel returns to its 1967 borders. One thing about the BBC is that, although it is a state supported organisation, each government has critisied it for being anti-incumbant and pro-opposition, meanwhile the opposition parties have lambasted it for being too pro-incumbent and anti-opposition. To me that suggests they are doing a good job of being fair and balanced by giving fair coverage to both sides for both the pros and cons.


                                    Scottish Developers events: * .NET debugging, tracing and instrumentation by Duncan Edwards Jones and Code Coverage in .NET by Craig Murphy * Developer Day Scotland: are you interested in speaking or attending? My: Website | Blog

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                                    Allah On Acid
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                                    Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                                    liberal - from the latin meaning free. But somewhere along the way the word got bastardised in American English and so I suspect you don't really mean "liberal" as it is properly defined. I do mean liberal as it is properly defined and I am proud to say that I am a liberal person living in a liberal society.

                                    Perhaps i should use a different word on an international forum like this, but in America, liberal means the opposite of the true latin meaning of the word.

                                    Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                                    I wouldn't say so. It seems to be balanced. Could it be that you are so anti-muslim that anything that is actually balanced looks "pro" to you?

                                    Does this not seem a little biased in Islam's favor? BBC definition of Islam[^] Islam began in Arabia and was revealed to humanity by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Those who follow Islam are called Muslims. Muslims believe that there is only one God. The Arabic word for God is Allah. BBC definition of Christianity[^] Christianity is the world's biggest religion, with about 2.1 billion followers worldwide. It is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ who lived in the Holy Land 2,000 years ago. It says that Mohammad was a prophet, and even includes the pbuh, but does it say that Jesus is God's Son, or that he died for Man's Sins?

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                                      Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                                      BBC News[^]

                                      BBC news has seemed to have a very liberal pro-Muslim, anti-Christianity, and anti-Israel bias behind it the times i have looked at it.

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      Perhaps you're just used to a conservative, anti Muslim, pro Christianity and pro Israel press ?

                                      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                        Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                                        Could it be that you are so anti-muslim that anything that is actually balanced looks "pro" to you?

                                        The dude watches Fox "news" and considers it "balanced" "most balanced". Go figure. :-D Edit: http://www.codeproject.com/script/comments/forums.asp?msg=1593234&forumid=2605#xx1593234xx[^] -- modified at 18:45 Monday 24th July, 2006

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                                        Colin Angus Mackay
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                                        Point taken - While I don't read Fox News, I do take my information from multiple sources. For example the two broadsheet papers in Scotland tend to have differing opinions so I try to read both and then from that to work out the truth. I don't automatically believe what those sources tell me either. For example today I wrote to The Scotsman "Criticising is easy. If you had provided some constructive criticism, whereby you offer an alternative, I might be able to see your point of view. As it is, all I see is the continual cynical, sceptical, contemptuous reporting of anything that might benefit Scotland by The Scotsman." As you can probably tell, the author of one of their article irked me for the last time.


                                        Scottish Developers events: * .NET debugging, tracing and instrumentation by Duncan Edwards Jones and Code Coverage in .NET by Craig Murphy * Developer Day Scotland: are you interested in speaking or attending? My: Website | Blog

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                                          Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                                          liberal - from the latin meaning free. But somewhere along the way the word got bastardised in American English and so I suspect you don't really mean "liberal" as it is properly defined. I do mean liberal as it is properly defined and I am proud to say that I am a liberal person living in a liberal society.

                                          Perhaps i should use a different word on an international forum like this, but in America, liberal means the opposite of the true latin meaning of the word.

                                          Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                                          I wouldn't say so. It seems to be balanced. Could it be that you are so anti-muslim that anything that is actually balanced looks "pro" to you?

                                          Does this not seem a little biased in Islam's favor? BBC definition of Islam[^] Islam began in Arabia and was revealed to humanity by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Those who follow Islam are called Muslims. Muslims believe that there is only one God. The Arabic word for God is Allah. BBC definition of Christianity[^] Christianity is the world's biggest religion, with about 2.1 billion followers worldwide. It is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ who lived in the Holy Land 2,000 years ago. It says that Mohammad was a prophet, and even includes the pbuh, but does it say that Jesus is God's Son, or that he died for Man's Sins?

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                                          Christian Graus
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                                          Hmmm... you seem to have a point, but I'd be cautious of assuming this was due to intentional bias. It's too easy to look for conspiracy where there is none.

                                          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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