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The WalMart concept does not work everywhere

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  • J Jeremy Falcon

    Marc Clifton wrote:

    What I mean is, profit and greed are synonymous nowadays. They shouldn't be.

    And yet you ban Wal-Mart and use Microsoft products everyday.

    Jeremy Falcon

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    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

    And yet you ban Wal-Mart and use Microsoft products everyday.

    I also don't put Microsoft into the same category as WalMart when it comes to corporate greed and hurting local business people and economies. We'll see how it goes as MS continues to outsource work as it forays into India and China. I look at what the Gates Foundation does, and I'm reasonably impressed. Microsoft indirectly also creates local job opportunities--certain technologies in general do--as if it weren't for these technologies that Microsoft has played a part in, I wouldn't be able to work out here with farmers as my neighbors. Do I sound defensive of MS? I just don't think that Walmart and Microsoft should be put in the same basket. Do you? Marc

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      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

      And yet you ban Wal-Mart and use Microsoft products everyday.

      I also don't put Microsoft into the same category as WalMart when it comes to corporate greed and hurting local business people and economies. We'll see how it goes as MS continues to outsource work as it forays into India and China. I look at what the Gates Foundation does, and I'm reasonably impressed. Microsoft indirectly also creates local job opportunities--certain technologies in general do--as if it weren't for these technologies that Microsoft has played a part in, I wouldn't be able to work out here with farmers as my neighbors. Do I sound defensive of MS? I just don't think that Walmart and Microsoft should be put in the same basket. Do you? Marc

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      Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
      There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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      Chris Richardson
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      Microsoft pays it's employees a livable wage, and gives decent benefits. This may be different elsewhere, but not in the US. So no, they shouldn't be in the same basket. As for me, I've been to Walmart probably twice in the past 3 years, and I absolutely hate going there, for all the reasons you mentioned in your original post. X| X| X|

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        The majority of your post consists of insults. If you need to insult to debate the issue, then I'll pass. You're pretty funny. Enjoy the rest of your day and weekend. I'm not taking the bait anymore.

        This statement is false.

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        Jeremy Falcon
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        Chris S Kaiser wrote:

        I'm not taking the bait anymore.

        Actually, you started the BS, I just called it out for you. You never had a real point, and now you claim you're not taking the bait. It's sad really, CP is becoming less and less interesting with stupid crap like this. And, if you get all upset and cry over being called stubborn, then you're also a sissy boy too. ;P

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          Microsoft pays it's employees a livable wage, and gives decent benefits. This may be different elsewhere, but not in the US. So no, they shouldn't be in the same basket. As for me, I've been to Walmart probably twice in the past 3 years, and I absolutely hate going there, for all the reasons you mentioned in your original post. X| X| X|

          Chris Richardson

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          Jeremy Falcon
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          Chris Richardson wrote:

          Microsoft pays it's employees a livable wage, and gives decent benefits.

          Utter crap. How well do you think MS pays their janitors, etc.? They pay their developers well - just like Wal-Mart pays their higher-ups well. Stop comparing apples to orangle. You're prejudiced without cause or even knowledge about it.

          Jeremy Falcon

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            Jeremy Falcon wrote:

            And yet you ban Wal-Mart and use Microsoft products everyday.

            I also don't put Microsoft into the same category as WalMart when it comes to corporate greed and hurting local business people and economies. We'll see how it goes as MS continues to outsource work as it forays into India and China. I look at what the Gates Foundation does, and I'm reasonably impressed. Microsoft indirectly also creates local job opportunities--certain technologies in general do--as if it weren't for these technologies that Microsoft has played a part in, I wouldn't be able to work out here with farmers as my neighbors. Do I sound defensive of MS? I just don't think that Walmart and Microsoft should be put in the same basket. Do you? Marc

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            Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
            People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
            There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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            Marc Clifton wrote:

            I also don't put Microsoft into the same category as WalMart when it comes to corporate greed and hurting local business people and economies.

            You should, beucase if you don't you have zero idea of what you're talking about.

            Marc Clifton wrote:

            I look at what the Gates Foundation does, and I'm reasonably impressed.

            Why don't you research what Wal-Mart gives away rather than making snap judgements as usual.

            Marc Clifton wrote:

            Do I sound defensive of MS?

            Duh.

            Marc Clifton wrote:

            I just don't think that Walmart and Microsoft should be put in the same basket. Do you?

            There's absolutely nothing different between the two. If you think about it, it's easy to see. If you keep on just trying to argue for the sake of arguing, you'll never see it.

            Jeremy Falcon

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            • J Jeremy Falcon

              Chris S Kaiser wrote:

              I'm not taking the bait anymore.

              Actually, you started the BS, I just called it out for you. You never had a real point, and now you claim you're not taking the bait. It's sad really, CP is becoming less and less interesting with stupid crap like this. And, if you get all upset and cry over being called stubborn, then you're also a sissy boy too. ;P

              Jeremy Falcon

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              Chris S Kaiser
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              Get over it. Move on. Whatever.

              This statement is false.

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              • J Jeremy Falcon

                Chris Richardson wrote:

                Microsoft pays it's employees a livable wage, and gives decent benefits.

                Utter crap. How well do you think MS pays their janitors, etc.? They pay their developers well - just like Wal-Mart pays their higher-ups well. Stop comparing apples to orangle. You're prejudiced without cause or even knowledge about it.

                Jeremy Falcon

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                Chris S Kaiser
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                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                Stop comparing apples to orangle.

                But the orangle is just so tasty. :laugh:

                This statement is false.

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                • J Jeremy Falcon

                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  I also don't put Microsoft into the same category as WalMart when it comes to corporate greed and hurting local business people and economies.

                  You should, beucase if you don't you have zero idea of what you're talking about.

                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  I look at what the Gates Foundation does, and I'm reasonably impressed.

                  Why don't you research what Wal-Mart gives away rather than making snap judgements as usual.

                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  Do I sound defensive of MS?

                  Duh.

                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  I just don't think that Walmart and Microsoft should be put in the same basket. Do you?

                  There's absolutely nothing different between the two. If you think about it, it's easy to see. If you keep on just trying to argue for the sake of arguing, you'll never see it.

                  Jeremy Falcon

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                  Chris S Kaiser
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                  So what? Do you have this crap in a bullet list that you just cut and paste from? Is everyone who has different data than you full of it and just arguing for arguments sake? It sounds like you are arguing for arguments sake. Why don't you produce some data to back up your claims. Now its your turn to prove it.

                  This statement is false.

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                  • J Jeremy Falcon

                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    I also don't put Microsoft into the same category as WalMart when it comes to corporate greed and hurting local business people and economies.

                    You should, beucase if you don't you have zero idea of what you're talking about.

                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    I look at what the Gates Foundation does, and I'm reasonably impressed.

                    Why don't you research what Wal-Mart gives away rather than making snap judgements as usual.

                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    Do I sound defensive of MS?

                    Duh.

                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    I just don't think that Walmart and Microsoft should be put in the same basket. Do you?

                    There's absolutely nothing different between the two. If you think about it, it's easy to see. If you keep on just trying to argue for the sake of arguing, you'll never see it.

                    Jeremy Falcon

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                    There's absolutely nothing different between the two. If you think about it, it's easy to see. If you keep on just trying to argue for the sake of arguing, you'll never see it.

                    OK. I looked up Microsoft / Bill Gates charity and found a lot of links on a lot of different areas. I took a few minutes and looked up Walmart / Waltons charity and found a criticism that Walmart's charity is self serving (I fail to see that B.G's $250 million to AIDS is self serving) and I also found this: They have donated at least $701 million to education charities since 1998. (Flash graphic: Wal-Mart execs' philanthropy) That pales beside the $1.05 billion given to education by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. So anyways, rather than argue, can you take a few minutes yourself and elaborate on:

                    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                    You should, beucase if you don't you have zero idea of what you're talking about.

                    and

                    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                    Why don't you research what Wal-Mart gives away rather than making snap judgements as usual.

                    As you think I'm obviously missing the right picture here. The only things I found justify my views. Marc

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                    Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
                    People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                    There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                      So what? Do you have this crap in a bullet list that you just cut and paste from? Is everyone who has different data than you full of it and just arguing for arguments sake? It sounds like you are arguing for arguments sake. Why don't you produce some data to back up your claims. Now its your turn to prove it.

                      This statement is false.

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                      Jeremy Falcon
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                      Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                      Why don't you produce some data to back up your claims. Now its your turn to prove it.

                      Google it, it's all there.

                      Jeremy Falcon

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                        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                        There's absolutely nothing different between the two. If you think about it, it's easy to see. If you keep on just trying to argue for the sake of arguing, you'll never see it.

                        OK. I looked up Microsoft / Bill Gates charity and found a lot of links on a lot of different areas. I took a few minutes and looked up Walmart / Waltons charity and found a criticism that Walmart's charity is self serving (I fail to see that B.G's $250 million to AIDS is self serving) and I also found this: They have donated at least $701 million to education charities since 1998. (Flash graphic: Wal-Mart execs' philanthropy) That pales beside the $1.05 billion given to education by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. So anyways, rather than argue, can you take a few minutes yourself and elaborate on:

                        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                        You should, beucase if you don't you have zero idea of what you're talking about.

                        and

                        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                        Why don't you research what Wal-Mart gives away rather than making snap judgements as usual.

                        As you think I'm obviously missing the right picture here. The only things I found justify my views. Marc

                        XPressTier

                        Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
                        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                        Jeremy Falcon
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                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                        OK. I looked up Microsoft / Bill Gates charity and found a lot of links on a lot of different areas.

                        I never claimed the Waltons/Wal-Mart donated as much as Bill Gates. Neither does Larry Elison, but I don't see you bad mouthing Oracle as much as Wal-Mart. My point was, Wal-Mart has done their fair share you act like they don't.

                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                        So anyways, rather than argue, can you take a few minutes yourself and elaborate on:

                        Simple, Wal-Mart acts no different than other companies, but you pin it purely out of bias. None of you have given one good reason why Wal-Mart is so worse than other businesses.

                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                        The only things I found justify my views.

                        You didn't look hard enough so you could a small search to justify your views.

                        Jeremy Falcon

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                        • C Chris S Kaiser

                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                          Stop comparing apples to orangle.

                          But the orangle is just so tasty. :laugh:

                          This statement is false.

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                          Jeremy Falcon
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                          Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                          But the orangle is just so tasty.

                          :laugh:

                          Jeremy Falcon

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