RAID 0+1 lost drive 1...
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PLEASE DISREGARD THEY SENT ME A DEAD DRIVE.:doh: So I'm running RAID 0+1 and about 3 weeks ago I lost drive 1 of [0,1,2,3]. I had just purchased it and so it was under warranty. I RMA'd the drive and sent it back. Not having a spare I just decided to wait for it to return and figured I'd order a backup after that. I've since placed the drive and am on the 3rd attempt at restoring it into the RAID volume. It's making a very pronounced clicking noise every 5 minutes or so and that brings bad feelings to my side of the force maybe some anger and betrayal to. 1. This is a SATA RAID of 4, 400 gig drives. Is clicking during a drive restore normal? 2. Should the task of restoring the drive move forward at about 1% per 10 minutes or so? I'm pretty sure I have another dead drive or a problem with my RAID controller. Right now I'm betting they returned my old drive right back to me and I'm going to check the serial numbers if the RAID fails again and I'm sure it will. Anyone have ideas or comments on this? Hold the sarcasm please I think of plenty of my own witty things to say right now I really need to know if the clicking is normal or not... - Rex
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PLEASE DISREGARD THEY SENT ME A DEAD DRIVE.:doh: So I'm running RAID 0+1 and about 3 weeks ago I lost drive 1 of [0,1,2,3]. I had just purchased it and so it was under warranty. I RMA'd the drive and sent it back. Not having a spare I just decided to wait for it to return and figured I'd order a backup after that. I've since placed the drive and am on the 3rd attempt at restoring it into the RAID volume. It's making a very pronounced clicking noise every 5 minutes or so and that brings bad feelings to my side of the force maybe some anger and betrayal to. 1. This is a SATA RAID of 4, 400 gig drives. Is clicking during a drive restore normal? 2. Should the task of restoring the drive move forward at about 1% per 10 minutes or so? I'm pretty sure I have another dead drive or a problem with my RAID controller. Right now I'm betting they returned my old drive right back to me and I'm going to check the serial numbers if the RAID fails again and I'm sure it will. Anyone have ideas or comments on this? Hold the sarcasm please I think of plenty of my own witty things to say right now I really need to know if the clicking is normal or not... - Rex
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code-frog wrote:
Should the task of restoring the drive move forward at about 1% per 10 minutes or so?
It wouldn't surprise me. I recently installed Windows on a SATAII 2x250G mirrored array, and it took about about 2 hours just to format the drive. You're formatting and copying data onto an 800G disk, so it will be really, really slow.
code-frog wrote:
This is a SATA RAID of 4, 400 gig drives. Is clicking during a drive restore normal?
Not as far as I'm aware. The only drives I've ever heard clicking died soon after.
code-frog wrote:
It's making a very pronounced clicking noise every 5 minutes or so
Ack. Not good. I'd say you've got a dead drive or one that very soon will be.
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
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PLEASE DISREGARD THEY SENT ME A DEAD DRIVE.:doh: So I'm running RAID 0+1 and about 3 weeks ago I lost drive 1 of [0,1,2,3]. I had just purchased it and so it was under warranty. I RMA'd the drive and sent it back. Not having a spare I just decided to wait for it to return and figured I'd order a backup after that. I've since placed the drive and am on the 3rd attempt at restoring it into the RAID volume. It's making a very pronounced clicking noise every 5 minutes or so and that brings bad feelings to my side of the force maybe some anger and betrayal to. 1. This is a SATA RAID of 4, 400 gig drives. Is clicking during a drive restore normal? 2. Should the task of restoring the drive move forward at about 1% per 10 minutes or so? I'm pretty sure I have another dead drive or a problem with my RAID controller. Right now I'm betting they returned my old drive right back to me and I'm going to check the serial numbers if the RAID fails again and I'm sure it will. Anyone have ideas or comments on this? Hold the sarcasm please I think of plenty of my own witty things to say right now I really need to know if the clicking is normal or not... - Rex
I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
not sure of the clicking, but when i was test restoring a raid, it took quiet a while (hours...) to rebuild the array.
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PLEASE DISREGARD THEY SENT ME A DEAD DRIVE.:doh: So I'm running RAID 0+1 and about 3 weeks ago I lost drive 1 of [0,1,2,3]. I had just purchased it and so it was under warranty. I RMA'd the drive and sent it back. Not having a spare I just decided to wait for it to return and figured I'd order a backup after that. I've since placed the drive and am on the 3rd attempt at restoring it into the RAID volume. It's making a very pronounced clicking noise every 5 minutes or so and that brings bad feelings to my side of the force maybe some anger and betrayal to. 1. This is a SATA RAID of 4, 400 gig drives. Is clicking during a drive restore normal? 2. Should the task of restoring the drive move forward at about 1% per 10 minutes or so? I'm pretty sure I have another dead drive or a problem with my RAID controller. Right now I'm betting they returned my old drive right back to me and I'm going to check the serial numbers if the RAID fails again and I'm sure it will. Anyone have ideas or comments on this? Hold the sarcasm please I think of plenty of my own witty things to say right now I really need to know if the clicking is normal or not... - Rex
I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
code-frog wrote:
It's making a very pronounced clicking noise every 5 minutes or so and that brings bad feelings to my side of the force maybe some anger and betrayal to.
Well, my experience has been moreso in non-RAID situations, but when a HDD is clicking that (more or less) means the head has problems reading the platter and the motor doesn't compensate for it (ie, it keeps on trying to move it, etc.). I've never once seen a HDD that started clicking to survive for too long afterwards (two months tops). But, in my experience, the clicking has been a lot more frequent than 5 mins apart. However, maybe with the RAID it tries it so often and if it fails it just doesn't use it (don't for sure about this though). Point is, if you put the clicking HDD in a seperate computer that's not in RAID and it starts to click a lot more often, kiss that sucker goodbye because it's gonna crash. :-D
Jeremy Falcon
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code-frog wrote:
It's making a very pronounced clicking noise every 5 minutes or so and that brings bad feelings to my side of the force maybe some anger and betrayal to.
Well, my experience has been moreso in non-RAID situations, but when a HDD is clicking that (more or less) means the head has problems reading the platter and the motor doesn't compensate for it (ie, it keeps on trying to move it, etc.). I've never once seen a HDD that started clicking to survive for too long afterwards (two months tops). But, in my experience, the clicking has been a lot more frequent than 5 mins apart. However, maybe with the RAID it tries it so often and if it fails it just doesn't use it (don't for sure about this though). Point is, if you put the clicking HDD in a seperate computer that's not in RAID and it starts to click a lot more often, kiss that sucker goodbye because it's gonna crash. :-D
Jeremy Falcon
A clicking sound is never good... Head crash (head bouncing of the disk platters...) IBM / Fujitsu had this problem with their Deathstar deskstar line of drives and it's infamous "click of death". Best way is to get a SMART analysis tool (Google for Speedfan), read the SMART help and check out the drives SMART attributes. When I worked for IBM as desktop support, we would regularly have replacement hardware delieverd that we would have to mark as "new-defect"... Someone in the central parts store would repack a bad drive and restock it... We did not pay for the parts, but for a general public user, this starts to be a nightmare... Forget trying to rebuild the raid, plug the drive in as a standalone drive and check SMART... - Do this with the replacement drive that they send you back too - probably find that the bad sector count is high and the overall drive health warrants a replacement, otherwise, leave the computer alone over a weekend and let the array rebuild... best would be to rebuild the array from the BIOS, and not from Windows as that way there is no concurrent drive access between the RAID bios reconstructing the drive, and I/O requests from Windows at the same time, and the construction will be faster. Good luck! Daniel -- modified at 17:04 Tuesday 8th August, 2006