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thealj wrote:
Oh come on. McCarthyism was nothing more than fear mongering. For God sakes, they brought Oppenheimer before the committee and he spearheaded the Manhattan project. You know - he "fathered" those things you used to keep the commies at bay. They even brought Bohm before the committee too. Totally ridiculous and borderline mass paranoia. But if you are proud of your political ancestry, who am I to strip your will from you.
It was fear-mongering designed to boost McCarthy's career. However, that does not mean that the fear of Communism was unfounded. The USSR was attempting to spread Communism all over the world (many times it was successful) via quiet and covert means. But again, McCarthyism was insignificant grandstanding to help some Senator and pales in comparison to modern left-wing accusations. The only reason the left focuses on McCarthyism is because they are sympathetic to the accused...Communists. If McCarty was hunting Nazis, I'd still call it political grandstanding and you'd call it a triumph in American history.
thealj wrote:
If you think a leftist agenda carries the same weight (threat-wise) as Islamic extremism, then you need to review your notes from Socialism 101; unless, of course, you are too afraid to have kept them. But then again, why should you be? It's not like the right would persecute you for that, right? I mean, they certainly wouldn't want to strip any freedom away from you under the guise of that Patriot Act thingy you've got going there. No, in fact, they'd probably give you a good solid pat on the head for raising the alarm - to...what is it now... "PINKO" or something?
Yeah, it's not like there were several dozen USSR-funded Communist coups around the world. :rolleyes:
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
espeir wrote:
The only reason the left focuses on McCarthyism is because they are sympathetic to the accused...Communists. If McCarty was hunting Nazis, I'd still call it political grandstanding and you'd call it a triumph in American history.
So, much like a sympathetic leftist, since you are not on the front lines in Iraq killing terrorists, this means you sympathize with them as you aren't killing them like a happy and obedient Soldier of the Right would be doing. I smell pinko. :^)
espeir wrote:
Yeah, it's not like there were several dozen USSR-funded Communist coups around the world.
Well, let's take stock of communist countries. I think there are perhaps a whopping THREE of them? Clearly they are destined to rule. I think I'll go shudder in my two left boots.
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espeir wrote:
The only reason the left focuses on McCarthyism is because they are sympathetic to the accused...Communists. If McCarty was hunting Nazis, I'd still call it political grandstanding and you'd call it a triumph in American history.
So, much like a sympathetic leftist, since you are not on the front lines in Iraq killing terrorists, this means you sympathize with them as you aren't killing them like a happy and obedient Soldier of the Right would be doing. I smell pinko. :^)
espeir wrote:
Yeah, it's not like there were several dozen USSR-funded Communist coups around the world.
Well, let's take stock of communist countries. I think there are perhaps a whopping THREE of them? Clearly they are destined to rule. I think I'll go shudder in my two left boots.
thealj wrote:
So, much like a sympathetic leftist, since you are not on the front lines in Iraq killing terrorists, this means you sympathize with them as you aren't killing them like a happy and obedient Soldier of the Right would be doing. I smell pinko.
I don't get it.
thealj wrote:
Well, let's take stock of communist countries. I think there are perhaps a whopping THREE of them? Clearly they are destined to rule. I think I'll go shudder in my two left boots.
Yes there are now. However, during the Cold War there were numerous more. Encroachment was actually a real problem.
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
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That's be cool, but unfortunately the Patriot Act doesn't flush out the "liberal threat". It only targets people blowing up buildings and such.
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
espeir wrote:
That's be cool
Hey, Ebonics! Are you crusading for cultural diversity now?
espeir wrote:
unfortunately the Patriot Act doesn't flush out the "liberal threat". It only targets people blowing up buildings and such.
Yeah, those crazy liberals, causing all that havoc and pumping out that endless rhetoric we have to tirelessly counter and debunk. Man, give me extremism any day...
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thealj wrote:
So, much like a sympathetic leftist, since you are not on the front lines in Iraq killing terrorists, this means you sympathize with them as you aren't killing them like a happy and obedient Soldier of the Right would be doing. I smell pinko.
I don't get it.
thealj wrote:
Well, let's take stock of communist countries. I think there are perhaps a whopping THREE of them? Clearly they are destined to rule. I think I'll go shudder in my two left boots.
Yes there are now. However, during the Cold War there were numerous more. Encroachment was actually a real problem.
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
espeir wrote:
I don't get it.
Hey - if you aren't persecuting (ie: killing) them, you're sympathizing with them. Remember McCarthyism? If you can't figure that out, maybe you belong with the left.
espeir wrote:
Yes there are now. However, during the Cold War there were numerous more. Encroachment was actually a real problem.
Centrally planned economies (read: communism) are self-defeating. There never really was any long-term threat. That is why the policy of mutually assured destruction was so successful. It was simply a waiting game - a wait sufficiently long for any communist state to self-implode. Why do you think China is allowing some free-market principles to encroach upon their beloved communist principles? They know where it's at.
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espeir wrote:
That's be cool
Hey, Ebonics! Are you crusading for cultural diversity now?
espeir wrote:
unfortunately the Patriot Act doesn't flush out the "liberal threat". It only targets people blowing up buildings and such.
Yeah, those crazy liberals, causing all that havoc and pumping out that endless rhetoric we have to tirelessly counter and debunk. Man, give me extremism any day...
thealj wrote:
Hey, Ebonics! Are you crusading for cultural diversity now?
Straight up, yo. (The "d" is right next to the "s")
thealj wrote:
Yeah, those crazy liberals, causing all that havoc and pumping out that endless rhetoric we have to tirelessly counter and debunk. Man, give me extremism any day...
Conservatives have already successfully debunked liberalism. That's why we rule the world. We won the intellectual debate. Liberals, however, are now seeking to undermine US elections since they can't win with debate. For the time being, we'll do our best to make sure their cheating is kept to a minimum and prevent people from blowing up buildings.
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
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espeir wrote:
I don't get it.
Hey - if you aren't persecuting (ie: killing) them, you're sympathizing with them. Remember McCarthyism? If you can't figure that out, maybe you belong with the left.
espeir wrote:
Yes there are now. However, during the Cold War there were numerous more. Encroachment was actually a real problem.
Centrally planned economies (read: communism) are self-defeating. There never really was any long-term threat. That is why the policy of mutually assured destruction was so successful. It was simply a waiting game - a wait sufficiently long for any communist state to self-implode. Why do you think China is allowing some free-market principles to encroach upon their beloved communist principles? They know where it's at.
thealj wrote:
Hey - if you aren't persecuting (ie: killing) them, you're sympathizing with them. Remember McCarthyism? If you can't figure that out, maybe you belong with the left.
I admit I can't figure that out. McCarthy didn't kill anybody, nor did he equate not actively killing Communists to being one....So what's your point? Also note that these types of baseless accusations were what drove McCarthyism. They're regularly employed by the left.
thealj wrote:
Centrally planned economies (read: communism) are self-defeating. There never really was any long-term threat. That is why the policy of mutually assured destruction was so successful. It was simply a waiting game - a wait sufficiently long for any communist state to self-implode. Why do you think China is allowing some free-market principles to encroach upon their beloved communist principles? They know where it's at.
I agree that they're self-defeating, but the world was a different place under USSR-rule. America wanted to ensure that Communism did not take hold here for obvious reasons.
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
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Let's see (Republican) McCarthyism - Congressional hearings, blacklisting, careers destroyed, people informing on each other. Liberal McCarthyism - nasty blog posts. Oh the horror!
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
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thealj wrote:
Hey, Ebonics! Are you crusading for cultural diversity now?
Straight up, yo. (The "d" is right next to the "s")
thealj wrote:
Yeah, those crazy liberals, causing all that havoc and pumping out that endless rhetoric we have to tirelessly counter and debunk. Man, give me extremism any day...
Conservatives have already successfully debunked liberalism. That's why we rule the world. We won the intellectual debate. Liberals, however, are now seeking to undermine US elections since they can't win with debate. For the time being, we'll do our best to make sure their cheating is kept to a minimum and prevent people from blowing up buildings.
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
espeir wrote:
For the time being, we'll do our best to make sure their cheating is kept to a minimum and prevent people from blowing up buildings.
You do that. I have a steak and beer to demolish now. I hear that the cow it came from was a communist sympathizer, but the beer was union brewed. I guess my meal is centre. I'll check in later.
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led mike wrote:
I must be having a moment but I still don't get the point
okay - I guess I'm be obscure. Before I net it out, I need to give some back ground. I grew up a Democrat. My father was a blue collar union steelworker, a committed Democrat. In those days both parties cared deeply about the defense of the country. The differences were marginal, especially in my youth which was immediately post-WWII. In the Veitnam era the Demoract part became nearly violently anti-war and stayed that way for a long time. Carter was the epitome, anti-war and a cowardly leader combined. Clinton for all his moral mishaps brought the Democrat party to the middle where the majority of Americans live - that is why, even with his moral turpitude the majority of the country stood behind him. The Iraq war is bringing the nut job Democrats out of the wood work pushing good men like Leiberman aside. Instead of working with the current administration to bring about a decent out come they're pushing solely for political gain, much like the bemoaned McCathyites (Republicans) did on the push against communism. Lanny Davis is decrying that extremism. Remember, he's a loyal Democrat but a Democrat who lives in the middle and not the extreme left (Dean, Soros, Lamont). Lanny is one of the first to speak up, and that is good. But watch the primaries. If the Democrats continue running to the left, dropping Leiberman in favor of Lamont then you'll see bigger Republican majorities because of the two choices that is the logical place for the middle to go.
Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. dennisd45 wrote: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced
Mike Gaskey wrote:
If the Democrats continue running to the left, dropping Leiberman in favor of Lamont then you'll see bigger Republican majorities because of the two choices that is the logical place for the middle to go.
I disagree. After all the incompetence and corruption, you'd think most Americans would throw the bums out and vote Democratic. However, the Republicans have gotten very good at winning elections with their sleazy fear-mongering tactics, so it wouldn't surprise me if their majority prevailed. Alvaro
Josh: So you have been married twice? You must have been young the first time around. Christian: Yeah, we were young and stupid. I was young, and she was...
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dennisd45 wrote:
Clearly, you haven't a clue about McCarthy and his times. Here is my answer: No. You cannot infer from this answer that I support McCarthy or his methods. Actually you cannot infer anything at all. Now, answer my question: If McCarthy was such a patriot why did Eisenhower shut him down?
So then why do you refuse to answer my question? Do you then support Nazis and Muslim Extremists in key positions of our government in the same what that you support Communists in those positions? And Eisenhower (A Republican) was constitutionally not capable of shutting down McCarthy's hearings. McCarthy withered away because he was a jerk and lost political power after a while. Nobody likes jerks. Republicans didn't even care for him all that much either. However, McCarthyism was not a big deal or very influential. Today liberals make a big deal about it for one reason...They sympathize with the victims...Communists. You continue to refuse to state that you believe Nazis and Communists should hold key government positions.
dennisd45 wrote:
Sham election? They gave up power. How is that sham? How can you be so ignorant of recent history?
Gave up power? They won in a landslide victory. Kind of like Castro.
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
espeir wrote:
So then why do you refuse to answer my question?
You must be blind, along with all the rest of your infirmities. Reread my post, the answer is clearly marked.
espeir wrote:
Do you then support Nazis and Muslim Extremists in key positions of our government in the same what that you support Communists in those positions?
A troll question. Get serious.
espeir wrote:
Today liberals make a big deal about it for one reason...They sympathize with the victims...Communists.
Your ignorance of history is truly astounding. His victims were not communists. I am finished with this topic. McCarthy was a little monster and the people whose lives he damaged or destroyed were innocent victims, and you are alone in believing that he is some sort of hero.
espeir wrote:
dennisd45 wrote: Sham election? They gave up power. How is that sham? How can you be so ignorant of recent history? Gave up power? They won in a landslide victory. Kind of like Castro.
Your ignorance of history is astounding - again. Yes, they gave up power.
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
If the Democrats continue running to the left, dropping Leiberman in favor of Lamont then you'll see bigger Republican majorities because of the two choices that is the logical place for the middle to go.
I disagree. After all the incompetence and corruption, you'd think most Americans would throw the bums out and vote Democratic. However, the Republicans have gotten very good at winning elections with their sleazy fear-mongering tactics, so it wouldn't surprise me if their majority prevailed. Alvaro
Josh: So you have been married twice? You must have been young the first time around. Christian: Yeah, we were young and stupid. I was young, and she was...
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
I disagree. After all the incompetence and corruption, you'd think most Americans would throw the bums out and vote Democratic. However, the Republicans have gotten very good at winning elections with their sleazy fear-mongering tactics, so it wouldn't surprise me if their majority prevailed.
The Republicans definitely need to be punished for their reckless spending habits, but electing Democrats instead is like shooting yourself in the head because you stubbed your toe.
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
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So the right is finally driving the left to join them in their abandon of civil discourse. What's your point?
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
So the right is finally driving the left to join them in their abandon of civil discourse
Huh? How is the right "forcing" the left to do anything? In my experience this kind of vitriolic discourse that Mr Davis laments has been going on for more than 25 years, and was started by the left and got into fever pitch when the left lost power in Congress in the 80s. It's been my sad experience that whenever I use logic to pick apart someone's arguments or when I demand that someone support their argument with facts and logic they attack me and raise their voice and use emotion to try to win the argument, rather than using logic. I just had that experience with someone in my family. I see a lot of it on both sides of the political spectrum, but far more on the left than on the right. The left is just in denial.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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espeir wrote:
So then why do you refuse to answer my question?
You must be blind, along with all the rest of your infirmities. Reread my post, the answer is clearly marked.
espeir wrote:
Do you then support Nazis and Muslim Extremists in key positions of our government in the same what that you support Communists in those positions?
A troll question. Get serious.
espeir wrote:
Today liberals make a big deal about it for one reason...They sympathize with the victims...Communists.
Your ignorance of history is truly astounding. His victims were not communists. I am finished with this topic. McCarthy was a little monster and the people whose lives he damaged or destroyed were innocent victims, and you are alone in believing that he is some sort of hero.
espeir wrote:
dennisd45 wrote: Sham election? They gave up power. How is that sham? How can you be so ignorant of recent history? Gave up power? They won in a landslide victory. Kind of like Castro.
Your ignorance of history is astounding - again. Yes, they gave up power.
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
dennisd45 wrote:
You must be blind, along with all the rest of your infirmities. Reread my post, the answer is clearly marked.
OK, so then you DON'T think Muslim Extremsists should hold government positions, but you DO believe that Communists should? I rest my case.
dennisd45 wrote:
A troll question. Get serious.
Not at all. You believe that it's OK for Communists to hold key government positions because you're a left-wing extremist and agree with their ideology. However, you believe that Nazis and Muslim Extremists should not hold such positions. I, however, believe that neither should hold key positions because I'm a Republican and a defender of democracy.
dennisd45 wrote:
Your ignorance of history is truly astounding. His victims were not communists. I am finished with this topic. McCarthy was a little monster and the people whose lives he damaged or destroyed were innocent victims, and you are alone in believing that he is some sort of hero.
What are you talking about? His "victims" included such noted Communists as Charlie Chaplin. McCarthy never victimized anybody. They victimized themselves by being Communists.
dennisd45 wrote:
Your ignorance of history is astounding - again. Yes, they gave up power.
Yeah, I know...Just like Castro.
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
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led mike wrote:
I must be having a moment but I still don't get the point
okay - I guess I'm be obscure. Before I net it out, I need to give some back ground. I grew up a Democrat. My father was a blue collar union steelworker, a committed Democrat. In those days both parties cared deeply about the defense of the country. The differences were marginal, especially in my youth which was immediately post-WWII. In the Veitnam era the Demoract part became nearly violently anti-war and stayed that way for a long time. Carter was the epitome, anti-war and a cowardly leader combined. Clinton for all his moral mishaps brought the Democrat party to the middle where the majority of Americans live - that is why, even with his moral turpitude the majority of the country stood behind him. The Iraq war is bringing the nut job Democrats out of the wood work pushing good men like Leiberman aside. Instead of working with the current administration to bring about a decent out come they're pushing solely for political gain, much like the bemoaned McCathyites (Republicans) did on the push against communism. Lanny Davis is decrying that extremism. Remember, he's a loyal Democrat but a Democrat who lives in the middle and not the extreme left (Dean, Soros, Lamont). Lanny is one of the first to speak up, and that is good. But watch the primaries. If the Democrats continue running to the left, dropping Leiberman in favor of Lamont then you'll see bigger Republican majorities because of the two choices that is the logical place for the middle to go.
Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. dennisd45 wrote: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced
Mike Gaskey wrote:
The Iraq war is bringing the nut job Democrats out of the wood work pushing good men like Leiberman aside. Instead of working with the current administration to bring about a decent out come they're pushing solely for political gain, much like the bemoaned McCathyites (Republicans) did on the push against communism.
I agree with you, but I think that most democrats believe that the Bush administration can't be trusted and can't be worked-with. While I may disagree with them, given their view of Bush and Republicans in general, I can't blame them for reacting the way they are.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
The Iraq war is bringing the nut job Democrats out of the wood work pushing good men like Leiberman aside. Instead of working with the current administration to bring about a decent out come they're pushing solely for political gain, much like the bemoaned McCathyites (Republicans) did on the push against communism.
I agree with you, but I think that most democrats believe that the Bush administration can't be trusted and can't be worked-with. While I may disagree with them, given their view of Bush and Republicans in general, I can't blame them for reacting the way they are.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
ahz wrote:
I can't blame them for reacting the way the are.
I can.
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
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dennisd45 wrote:
You must be blind, along with all the rest of your infirmities. Reread my post, the answer is clearly marked.
OK, so then you DON'T think Muslim Extremsists should hold government positions, but you DO believe that Communists should? I rest my case.
dennisd45 wrote:
A troll question. Get serious.
Not at all. You believe that it's OK for Communists to hold key government positions because you're a left-wing extremist and agree with their ideology. However, you believe that Nazis and Muslim Extremists should not hold such positions. I, however, believe that neither should hold key positions because I'm a Republican and a defender of democracy.
dennisd45 wrote:
Your ignorance of history is truly astounding. His victims were not communists. I am finished with this topic. McCarthy was a little monster and the people whose lives he damaged or destroyed were innocent victims, and you are alone in believing that he is some sort of hero.
What are you talking about? His "victims" included such noted Communists as Charlie Chaplin. McCarthy never victimized anybody. They victimized themselves by being Communists.
dennisd45 wrote:
Your ignorance of history is astounding - again. Yes, they gave up power.
Yeah, I know...Just like Castro.
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
Not a single intelligent word in your entire post. All trolling. Ignorantly attempting to put words in my mouth. Only your stupidity allows you to believe that I said anything about communists in the government.
espeir wrote:
His "victims" included such noted Communists as Charlie Chaplin
The republic is saved!!
espeir wrote:
You believe that it's OK for Communists to hold key government positions because you're a left-wing extremist and agree with their ideology.
Never said any such thing. Troll troll troll.
espeir wrote:
dennisd45 wrote: Your ignorance of history is astounding - again. Yes, they gave up power. Yeah, I know...Just like Castro.
More ignorant trolling. Look it up, asshole. they gave up power after they lost the election
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
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Not a single intelligent word in your entire post. All trolling. Ignorantly attempting to put words in my mouth. Only your stupidity allows you to believe that I said anything about communists in the government.
espeir wrote:
His "victims" included such noted Communists as Charlie Chaplin
The republic is saved!!
espeir wrote:
You believe that it's OK for Communists to hold key government positions because you're a left-wing extremist and agree with their ideology.
Never said any such thing. Troll troll troll.
espeir wrote:
dennisd45 wrote: Your ignorance of history is astounding - again. Yes, they gave up power. Yeah, I know...Just like Castro.
More ignorant trolling. Look it up, asshole. they gave up power after they lost the election
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
dennisd45 wrote:
Not a single intelligent word in your entire post. All trolling. Ignorantly attempting to put words in my mouth. Only your stupidity allows you to believe that I said anything about communists in the government.
Well I asked you numerous times whether or not you oppose Communists in key government positions and you refuse to answer, despite giving an answer about Nazis and Muslim Extremists. I'm confident that my inference is correct.
dennisd45 wrote:
The republic is saved!!
Well you keep saying how innocent people were "destroyed". Guess what, those "innocent people" actually WERE communists.
dennisd45 wrote:
Never said any such thing. Troll troll troll.
Then why won't you deny it? You admit that you don't want Nazis or Muslim Extremists in our government. Answer: Because you're a leftist and you support Communism. It's as simple as that.
dennisd45 wrote:
More ignorant trolling. Look it up, asshole. they gave up power after they lost the election
Just like Castro!
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45 "I fully support Communists in key positions of our government. I believe that they contribute positively to the liberal ideal." -dennisd45
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dennisd45 wrote:
Not a single intelligent word in your entire post. All trolling. Ignorantly attempting to put words in my mouth. Only your stupidity allows you to believe that I said anything about communists in the government.
Well I asked you numerous times whether or not you oppose Communists in key government positions and you refuse to answer, despite giving an answer about Nazis and Muslim Extremists. I'm confident that my inference is correct.
dennisd45 wrote:
The republic is saved!!
Well you keep saying how innocent people were "destroyed". Guess what, those "innocent people" actually WERE communists.
dennisd45 wrote:
Never said any such thing. Troll troll troll.
Then why won't you deny it? You admit that you don't want Nazis or Muslim Extremists in our government. Answer: Because you're a leftist and you support Communism. It's as simple as that.
dennisd45 wrote:
More ignorant trolling. Look it up, asshole. they gave up power after they lost the election
Just like Castro!
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45 "I fully support Communists in key positions of our government. I believe that they contribute positively to the liberal ideal." -dennisd45
Respond to this post. I wish to see this subject line again. What a troll. espeir says "Joseph McCarthy was a great man who deserved to be President! Long live Joe McCarthy, long live McCarthyism!"
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
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Respond to this post. I wish to see this subject line again. What a troll. espeir says "Joseph McCarthy was a great man who deserved to be President! Long live Joe McCarthy, long live McCarthyism!"
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
dennisd45 wrote:
Respond to this post. I wish to see this subject line again.
OK.
dennisd45 wrote:
espeir says "Joseph McCarthy was a great man who deserved to be President! Long live Joe McCarthy, long live McCarthyism!"
I never said he was a great man. I said he was a self-serving politician and was harmless. You (and every other leftist) makes a big deal about some guy pointing out Communists ONLY because you are sympathetic to communism. No other reason. Personally, I think McCarthy was a jerk, but there's no shortage of those in the world. So who cares? Answer: Communists. Did you see the new quote I added to my sig?
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45 "I fully support Communists in key positions of our government. I believe that they contribute positively to the liberal ideal." -dennisd45
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thealj wrote:
Hey - if you aren't persecuting (ie: killing) them, you're sympathizing with them. Remember McCarthyism? If you can't figure that out, maybe you belong with the left.
I admit I can't figure that out. McCarthy didn't kill anybody, nor did he equate not actively killing Communists to being one....So what's your point? Also note that these types of baseless accusations were what drove McCarthyism. They're regularly employed by the left.
thealj wrote:
Centrally planned economies (read: communism) are self-defeating. There never really was any long-term threat. That is why the policy of mutually assured destruction was so successful. It was simply a waiting game - a wait sufficiently long for any communist state to self-implode. Why do you think China is allowing some free-market principles to encroach upon their beloved communist principles? They know where it's at.
I agree that they're self-defeating, but the world was a different place under USSR-rule. America wanted to ensure that Communism did not take hold here for obvious reasons.
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
espeir wrote:
I admit I can't figure that out. McCarthy didn't kill anybody, nor did he equate not actively killing Communists to being one....So what's your point?
My point is that since you are not actively pursuing, persecuting, indicting, fighting, interrogating, (insert whatever McCarthy era tactic you like here) muslim extremists, then you are and Islamic sympathizer. Because of your sympathetic (or apathetic if you like) attitude towards these heinous oppressors of democracy, you are also therefore exhibiting leftist tendencies. How can you claim to be a representative of the right?
espeir wrote:
Also note that these types of baseless accusations were what drove McCarthyism. They're regularly employed by the left.
Are you suggesting McCarthy was a leftist? -- modified at 15:22 Tuesday 8th August, 2006