How and when you tell your boss you're looking for a new job?
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1. you're an idiot 2. you're an idiot 3. you're an idiot if you don't get that job, your kinda of.. screwed and an idiot idiot. -- modified at 18:17 Tuesday 15th August, 2006
You don't see a WTF in spawning hundreds of threads ?? Or using code found on places like codeproject.com in production applications ... Code that is most likely untested, or barely test, more often than not, not made by reputable developers/development groups/etc ?? .... Wow ...
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Hello there The job i'm in today is really getting boring, so I think i need a change and i'm looking for a new job, actually the last week I went to a interview, and I'm waiting for them to give a call...:laugh:. I talk to my boss about this one and it seems not to be the better. Now he is thinking (:~ I suppose) not to give me new proyects. Why I'm thinking that?.. well, by now I was about to finish a project, and yesterday he ask me to give that project to another person here in the company. Do you think i was wrong on tellin' my boss about this interview? eLFeR
eLFeRNaNDiTo wrote:
Do you think i was wrong on tellin' my boss about this interview?
Yes, it was not a smart idea to go telling your boss about the interview. Normally a person doesn't do that until after they have been offered a job at the new company. You could have very well planted seeds of distrust with your current boss and now for any new projects, pay raises, promotions, etc, you pretty much shot it all down.
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Hello there The job i'm in today is really getting boring, so I think i need a change and i'm looking for a new job, actually the last week I went to a interview, and I'm waiting for them to give a call...:laugh:. I talk to my boss about this one and it seems not to be the better. Now he is thinking (:~ I suppose) not to give me new proyects. Why I'm thinking that?.. well, by now I was about to finish a project, and yesterday he ask me to give that project to another person here in the company. Do you think i was wrong on tellin' my boss about this interview? eLFeR
eLFeRNaNDiTo wrote:
Do you think i was wrong on tellin' my boss about this interview?
Yes, You tell your boss with your letter of resignation. No emotions just bye in 2 weeks.
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Varindir Rajesh Mahdihar wrote:
You don't see a WTF in spawning hundreds of threads ?? Or using code found on places like codeproject.com in production applications ... Code that is most likely untested, or barely test, more often than not, not made by reputable developers/development groups/etc ?? .... Wow ...
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Hello there The job i'm in today is really getting boring, so I think i need a change and i'm looking for a new job, actually the last week I went to a interview, and I'm waiting for them to give a call...:laugh:. I talk to my boss about this one and it seems not to be the better. Now he is thinking (:~ I suppose) not to give me new proyects. Why I'm thinking that?.. well, by now I was about to finish a project, and yesterday he ask me to give that project to another person here in the company. Do you think i was wrong on tellin' my boss about this interview? eLFeR
Think about it from your boss's perspective. Would you give an employee who just said he was looking for new employment any new projects? I certainly wouldn't.
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Hello there The job i'm in today is really getting boring, so I think i need a change and i'm looking for a new job, actually the last week I went to a interview, and I'm waiting for them to give a call...:laugh:. I talk to my boss about this one and it seems not to be the better. Now he is thinking (:~ I suppose) not to give me new proyects. Why I'm thinking that?.. well, by now I was about to finish a project, and yesterday he ask me to give that project to another person here in the company. Do you think i was wrong on tellin' my boss about this interview? eLFeR
As stated by others, it is foolish to tell your boss anything until you are ready to give notice of quit, even if your boss happens to be a personal friend. UNLESS You are in the middle of negotiating a pay rise in which case you could use this as a lever to achieve better terms but that presupposes that you have become a key worker who would be sorely missed. On the other hand, it could quicken your departure if you are not a key worker.
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As stated by others, it is foolish to tell your boss anything until you are ready to give notice of quit, even if your boss happens to be a personal friend. UNLESS You are in the middle of negotiating a pay rise in which case you could use this as a lever to achieve better terms but that presupposes that you have become a key worker who would be sorely missed. On the other hand, it could quicken your departure if you are not a key worker.
:~ :sigh: After all, I think everyone have a little reason...but, I forgot to say something to you, in the other company works the wife of an office companion here. That which of any way, my boss was to finding out, don't you believe it. On the other hand, in opposition to which Richard says, in this company there are no key workers. In fact, the slogan of the owners is “Nobody is essential”. Anyway, I was trying to be honest, right?.... So, what you think now?.... eLFeR
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1. you're an idiot 2. you're an idiot 3. you're an idiot if you don't get that job, your kinda of.. screwed and an idiot idiot. -- modified at 18:17 Tuesday 15th August, 2006
You don't see a WTF in spawning hundreds of threads ?? Or using code found on places like codeproject.com in production applications ... Code that is most likely untested, or barely test, more often than not, not made by reputable developers/development groups/etc ?? .... Wow ...
1 for rudeness.
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:~ :sigh: After all, I think everyone have a little reason...but, I forgot to say something to you, in the other company works the wife of an office companion here. That which of any way, my boss was to finding out, don't you believe it. On the other hand, in opposition to which Richard says, in this company there are no key workers. In fact, the slogan of the owners is “Nobody is essential”. Anyway, I was trying to be honest, right?.... So, what you think now?.... eLFeR
1. Knowing that a companion's wife was working for the other company - you should have requested an interview location that would not have allowed her to know you were interviewing. 2. You should not mention your job search to anyone in your current company. Now if you stay - as has been noted - you're likely not to get choice projects because you're not 'trustworthy' - or there will be hard feelings with other developers - because "The must have given him a raise to stay..." Certainly not working conditions you want to be in. You can only hope that you get that job or find another soon.
S.D. Hunt
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1. Knowing that a companion's wife was working for the other company - you should have requested an interview location that would not have allowed her to know you were interviewing. 2. You should not mention your job search to anyone in your current company. Now if you stay - as has been noted - you're likely not to get choice projects because you're not 'trustworthy' - or there will be hard feelings with other developers - because "The must have given him a raise to stay..." Certainly not working conditions you want to be in. You can only hope that you get that job or find another soon.
S.D. Hunt
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:~ :sigh: After all, I think everyone have a little reason...but, I forgot to say something to you, in the other company works the wife of an office companion here. That which of any way, my boss was to finding out, don't you believe it. On the other hand, in opposition to which Richard says, in this company there are no key workers. In fact, the slogan of the owners is “Nobody is essential”. Anyway, I was trying to be honest, right?.... So, what you think now?.... eLFeR
eLFeRNaNDiTo wrote:
in the other company works the wife of an office companion here
You may as well look for a job somewheres else.
That's no moon, it's a space station. - Obi-wan Kenobi
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Hello there The job i'm in today is really getting boring, so I think i need a change and i'm looking for a new job, actually the last week I went to a interview, and I'm waiting for them to give a call...:laugh:. I talk to my boss about this one and it seems not to be the better. Now he is thinking (:~ I suppose) not to give me new proyects. Why I'm thinking that?.. well, by now I was about to finish a project, and yesterday he ask me to give that project to another person here in the company. Do you think i was wrong on tellin' my boss about this interview? eLFeR
is standard.
A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane
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:~ :sigh: After all, I think everyone have a little reason...but, I forgot to say something to you, in the other company works the wife of an office companion here. That which of any way, my boss was to finding out, don't you believe it. On the other hand, in opposition to which Richard says, in this company there are no key workers. In fact, the slogan of the owners is “Nobody is essential”. Anyway, I was trying to be honest, right?.... So, what you think now?.... eLFeR
eLFeRNaNDiTo wrote:
I was trying to be honest
Honourable but in terms of office politics - probably foolhardy.
eLFeRNaNDiTo wrote:
in this company there are no key workers. In fact, the slogan of the owners is “Nobody is essential”
Nobody is indispensible but in all industries (yes even computing) your statement is wholly wrong. Key workers are vital to a company's fortunes be they good or bad.
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Hello there The job i'm in today is really getting boring, so I think i need a change and i'm looking for a new job, actually the last week I went to a interview, and I'm waiting for them to give a call...:laugh:. I talk to my boss about this one and it seems not to be the better. Now he is thinking (:~ I suppose) not to give me new proyects. Why I'm thinking that?.. well, by now I was about to finish a project, and yesterday he ask me to give that project to another person here in the company. Do you think i was wrong on tellin' my boss about this interview? eLFeR
That was not a good move on your part. If you don't get the job, what are you going to do? You'll have to tell your boss that you reconsidered or something and that you like your job but just need a challenge. Now, everytime you miss work they are going to think you had another interview. Don't ever say anything to your boss until you have an offer.
how vital enterprise application are for proactive organizations leveraging collective synergy to think outside the box and formulate their key objectives into a win-win game plan with a quality-driven approach that focuses on empowering key players to drive-up their core competencies and increase expectations with an all-around initiative to drive up the bottom-line. But of course, that's all a "high level" overview of things --thedailywtf 3/21/06
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eLFeRNaNDiTo wrote:
Do you think i was wrong on tellin' my boss about this interview?
Yes :-) You should have waited until the other company gave you an offer. This way you make it awkward for everyone, including your boss.
Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
This way you make it awkward for everyone, including your boss.
I'm not saying he should have told his current boss but it is to the boss' benefit that he got an early heads up on eLFeRNaNDiTo leaving.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
This way you make it awkward for everyone, including your boss.
I'm not saying he should have told his current boss but it is to the boss' benefit that he got an early heads up on eLFeRNaNDiTo leaving.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
Paul Watson wrote:
I'm not saying he should have told his current boss but it is to the boss' benefit that he got an early heads up on eLFeRNaNDiTo leaving.
Yep - and if he doesn't get that other job offer, he risks the chance of his boss relieving him of his job - and he'd have to remain unemployed till he gets another job. Overall, a very bad decision on his part.
Regards, Nish
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Hello there The job i'm in today is really getting boring, so I think i need a change and i'm looking for a new job, actually the last week I went to a interview, and I'm waiting for them to give a call...:laugh:. I talk to my boss about this one and it seems not to be the better. Now he is thinking (:~ I suppose) not to give me new proyects. Why I'm thinking that?.. well, by now I was about to finish a project, and yesterday he ask me to give that project to another person here in the company. Do you think i was wrong on tellin' my boss about this interview? eLFeR
Short answer: after you found a new one. The feeling of being dishonnest has nothing to do with it. It is not dishonest, it's a business relationship and you're making a business decision, nothing personal. Imagine your boss considering doing layoffs, what would you do if he told you?
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
This way you make it awkward for everyone, including your boss.
I'm not saying he should have told his current boss but it is to the boss' benefit that he got an early heads up on eLFeRNaNDiTo leaving.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
Paul Watson wrote:
on eLFeRNaNDiTo leaving.
ok, did you type his signon name, or copy and paste it? Be honest! Marc
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Paul Watson wrote:
on eLFeRNaNDiTo leaving.
ok, did you type his signon name, or copy and paste it? Be honest! Marc
Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmerMarc Clifton wrote:
ok, did you type his signon name, or copy and paste it? Be honest!
:laugh:
Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New) -
1. you're an idiot 2. you're an idiot 3. you're an idiot if you don't get that job, your kinda of.. screwed and an idiot idiot. -- modified at 18:17 Tuesday 15th August, 2006
You don't see a WTF in spawning hundreds of threads ?? Or using code found on places like codeproject.com in production applications ... Code that is most likely untested, or barely test, more often than not, not made by reputable developers/development groups/etc ?? .... Wow ...
You really need to learn how to be rude with style. Marc
Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer