How often do you get up while programming?
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Christian Graus wrote:
I do 20-30 minutes of weights as well.
Btw, you on a different routine? I want details man. ;) What kinda setup ended up fitting your style, etc.?
Jeremy Falcon
Until yesterday, physio told me to only do the pull downs and the rowing type exercise ( and 10 minutes of walking ). She's just now given me permission to do more, so I will go back to the list you sent me and start adding stuff today. She also forbade me from doing the exercise where you hook your leg over and use it to lift weights. Do you have an alternative ?
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You sissy!;P I can sit for hours at a time and not have any problems suddenly getting up. Of course the key is investing money in an expensive chair that will let you do so and get away with it. I had a cheapo $40 chair from Office Max that I'm pretty sure permanently damaged my tailbone in less than a few months. Seriously my average is about 2 - 4 hours during the day and about 6 straight after the kids go to bed. I find that getting out daily to exercise pretty much cures any of the chair-butt problems people have. When I'm done working out sitting sounds like heaven and everything else means I have to get up.:-D - Rex
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code-frog wrote:
You sissy!
Is it considered an insult to call a woman a sissy? :)
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code-frog wrote:
You sissy!
Is it considered an insult to call a woman a sissy? :)
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Well an insult wasn't intended and as I knew the target was female *and* leckey I figured it was a safe thing to do.:-D
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Until yesterday, physio told me to only do the pull downs and the rowing type exercise ( and 10 minutes of walking ). She's just now given me permission to do more, so I will go back to the list you sent me and start adding stuff today. She also forbade me from doing the exercise where you hook your leg over and use it to lift weights. Do you have an alternative ?
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Christian Graus wrote:
She also forbade me from doing the exercise where you hook your leg over and use it to lift weights. Do you have an alternative ?
Just to make sure I understand this right... are you talking about leg extensions (exercising quads) or leg curls (exercising hamstrings)? BTW, neither of these exercises put direct strain on your back (if you use proper form that is). I don't see what the problem would be, unless maybe she doesn't know jack about lifting weights. [edit] Well, I guess that could also depend on the cause of your back issue. [/edit] [edit] BTW, leg presses and squats put a lot of strain on the lower back. So don't bother with that one yet. But, that wasn't on the list I handed you. [/edit]
Jeremy Falcon
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You sissy!;P I can sit for hours at a time and not have any problems suddenly getting up. Of course the key is investing money in an expensive chair that will let you do so and get away with it. I had a cheapo $40 chair from Office Max that I'm pretty sure permanently damaged my tailbone in less than a few months. Seriously my average is about 2 - 4 hours during the day and about 6 straight after the kids go to bed. I find that getting out daily to exercise pretty much cures any of the chair-butt problems people have. When I'm done working out sitting sounds like heaven and everything else means I have to get up.:-D - Rex
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I got up from my chair earlier today and realized I had been sitting at my desk for almost 3 hours. My legs and eyes hurt. Do any of you force yourself to get up after a certain amount of time? If so, how much? Out of curiosity, what is the longest you have sat coding without getting up?
LCD screens have done a lot towards reducing eyestrain for me. Hard to beat a good CRT for image editing, but for reading code all day i've gotta have an LCD. :)
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LCD screens have done a lot towards reducing eyestrain for me. Hard to beat a good CRT for image editing, but for reading code all day i've gotta have an LCD. :)
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Shog9 wrote:
but for reading code all day i've gotta have an LCD.
My eyes are reminding me of this a lot now. :sigh:
Jeremy Falcon
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Ok, that's it. Next time my wife asks for help with something computer-related, i'm gonna strut on over saying "hey there little lady, let me press those big heavy keys for you"... :rolleyes:
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I have significant back, shoulder and arm problems. My physio is amazed at my skills when I told her I would write a program that tells me to get up every 20 minutes. I dunno what she thinks I write for people who give me money. So, every 20 minutes I get up, and do some stretches she's given me, every hour I do more exercises. Once a day, I do 20-30 minutes of weights as well. I'm still sore, but I tell myself it would be worse if I didn't do that. I'm also going to try a fitball, I've decided ( having just spent $450 on another office chair that is not helping ).
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Christian Graus wrote:
having just spent $450 on another office chair that is not helping
We have Therapods in the office, and find them very comfy (and more adjustable than any other office chair I've ever seen. The Australian site is http://www.therapod.com.au/[^].
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I usually get up "automatically" once in a while, just to have a walk across the room. I think better while walking. :)
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Christian Graus wrote:
She also forbade me from doing the exercise where you hook your leg over and use it to lift weights. Do you have an alternative ?
Just to make sure I understand this right... are you talking about leg extensions (exercising quads) or leg curls (exercising hamstrings)? BTW, neither of these exercises put direct strain on your back (if you use proper form that is). I don't see what the problem would be, unless maybe she doesn't know jack about lifting weights. [edit] Well, I guess that could also depend on the cause of your back issue. [/edit] [edit] BTW, leg presses and squats put a lot of strain on the lower back. So don't bother with that one yet. But, that wasn't on the list I handed you. [/edit]
Jeremy Falcon
I think it was the curls, but her comment was that they are generally regarded as not a good thing anymore, because of strain they cause ( not necessarily to the lower back, but in general ).
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Christian Graus wrote:
having just spent $450 on another office chair that is not helping
We have Therapods in the office, and find them very comfy (and more adjustable than any other office chair I've ever seen. The Australian site is http://www.therapod.com.au/[^].
Thanks - I will look into it
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I think it was the curls, but her comment was that they are generally regarded as not a good thing anymore, because of strain they cause ( not necessarily to the lower back, but in general ).
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Christian Graus wrote:
but her comment was that they are generally regarded as not a good thing anymore, because of strain they cause
Well, that's even worse. I realize you may not take my word over hers, but trust me when I say she doesn't know too much about lifting weights. Besides, there aren't that may exercises out there for the hamstrings that wouldn't involve the lower back somehow and use the same exact muscles. Google it for yourself. At least with the leg curls, the rest of your body is supported while doing it and it helps reduce extra stress/strain. The only possible explanation I could buy into, is the machine is too small for you to comfortably perform the exercise. That would make a lot of sense because it goes back to bad form. If you really want, I'll give you another one. I'd recommend just trying out leg curls once before you do though. You're body will tell if you something is wrong because of it (more so than soreness). Also, I'm going to try and dig up references on leg curls being considered bad now. It may be my stubbornness (like I have any ;)), but I doubt I'll find much.
Jeremy Falcon
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Ok, that's it. Next time my wife asks for help with something computer-related, i'm gonna strut on over saying "hey there little lady, let me press those big heavy keys for you"... :rolleyes:
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I think it was the curls, but her comment was that they are generally regarded as not a good thing anymore, because of strain they cause ( not necessarily to the lower back, but in general ).
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
BTW, who brought up the strain issue with leg curls, you or her? There is strain on the body in general if you have a gut (you know me by now, I'm frank :)) getting in the way when laying face down. I know this from personal experience as well, so it's not like I'm pointing fingers. But, that's not the fault of the exercise one bit. That's the gut's fault from stopping your body from comfortably resting on the machine - which goes back to bad form. This is really about the only thing I can think of to explain this outside of your therapist being a flake man.
Jeremy Falcon
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Christian Graus wrote:
but her comment was that they are generally regarded as not a good thing anymore, because of strain they cause
Well, that's even worse. I realize you may not take my word over hers, but trust me when I say she doesn't know too much about lifting weights. Besides, there aren't that may exercises out there for the hamstrings that wouldn't involve the lower back somehow and use the same exact muscles. Google it for yourself. At least with the leg curls, the rest of your body is supported while doing it and it helps reduce extra stress/strain. The only possible explanation I could buy into, is the machine is too small for you to comfortably perform the exercise. That would make a lot of sense because it goes back to bad form. If you really want, I'll give you another one. I'd recommend just trying out leg curls once before you do though. You're body will tell if you something is wrong because of it (more so than soreness). Also, I'm going to try and dig up references on leg curls being considered bad now. It may be my stubbornness (like I have any ;)), but I doubt I'll find much.
Jeremy Falcon
OK, fair enough. I'm generally ramping up, I may leave those to last, but still incorporate them and see how I go. She has not seen my machine, she's seen the same jpg I sent you :-)
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You sissy!;P I can sit for hours at a time and not have any problems suddenly getting up. Of course the key is investing money in an expensive chair that will let you do so and get away with it. I had a cheapo $40 chair from Office Max that I'm pretty sure permanently damaged my tailbone in less than a few months. Seriously my average is about 2 - 4 hours during the day and about 6 straight after the kids go to bed. I find that getting out daily to exercise pretty much cures any of the chair-butt problems people have. When I'm done working out sitting sounds like heaven and everything else means I have to get up.:-D - Rex
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code-frog wrote:
I can sit for hours at a time and not have any problems suddenly getting up.
If I sit for more than about 15mins and then suddenly get up, I come close to passing out. I have to take it nice and slow. Once I'm up, I'm fine. My poor weak little heart :sigh:
Ryan
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OK, fair enough. I'm generally ramping up, I may leave those to last, but still incorporate them and see how I go. She has not seen my machine, she's seen the same jpg I sent you :-)
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Well, I assume she knows more about your situation than I do (emails only go so far), but I can tell ya, leg curls if done right are a great isolation exercise. It is worth noting, when I was really bad off I didn't use machines at all (I didn't fit in them -- really) to start losing weight and toning up. So, that is a way to go, but IMO it really depends on you. What it is that you enjoy doing, etc. because without the fun, it's harder to keep on going ya know and that's what really important.
Jeremy Falcon
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BTW, who brought up the strain issue with leg curls, you or her? There is strain on the body in general if you have a gut (you know me by now, I'm frank :)) getting in the way when laying face down. I know this from personal experience as well, so it's not like I'm pointing fingers. But, that's not the fault of the exercise one bit. That's the gut's fault from stopping your body from comfortably resting on the machine - which goes back to bad form. This is really about the only thing I can think of to explain this outside of your therapist being a flake man.
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
BTW, who brought up the strain issue with leg curls, you or her?
Her. I showed her your list and she gave me two I could do right away, and marked that one as a never do it, and said that there had been changes in conventional wisdom and it was 'out of vogue'.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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I got up from my chair earlier today and realized I had been sitting at my desk for almost 3 hours. My legs and eyes hurt. Do any of you force yourself to get up after a certain amount of time? If so, how much? Out of curiosity, what is the longest you have sat coding without getting up?