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  • D David Wulff

    I know it is really too early to give reliable results, but I have just logged into both of the test Hotmail accounts I created over the weekend, and the spam totals are starting to support my theory that Microsft aren't selling the addresses, but rather spamers are using brute force methods to generate lists of valid e-mail addresses... 5 char account - 4 sex relates spam messages, each from the same sender, and each with very obviously brute force generated addresses in the "To" field alongside mine. 40 char account - 0 messages. Just a reminder to those who missed my earlier post, the account names are randomly choosen alpha/+numeric strings (neither of which resembled anything like a word either spelling-wise or phonetically. Neither address has been posted anywhere. Only another 28 days to go before the final result. ____________________ David Wulff Met a girl, thought she was grand fell in love, found out first hand went well for a week or two then I found out she eats poo - She Hates Me by Puddle of Mudd (modified)

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    Nish Nishant
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    Hello Dave My uranus20022002 account [14 chars] - I just checked it. 0 junk mail 1 normal mail [the same one I had reported a few days ago] Thus Microsoft is NOT GUILTY Nish_


    One little CD gone, Then two CDs gone, Then 5 more gone, For a total 7 gones, If I was a CD R, I'd wanna cry, Cause I'd be just a goner, For a nasty CD burner. [funny how frustration wakes up the poet in me]_

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    • P Paresh Solanki

      David Wulff wrote: Met a girl, thought she was grand fell in love, found out first hand went well for a week or two then I found out she eats poo From your autosig, you sound as if you've been talking to a friend of mine. Here's his latest sig: "...You will be shocked and embarrassed when the arresting officers inform you that cockfighting is supposed to involve chickens..." :) Paresh Solanki Freudian Slip When you say one thing and mean a mother.

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      David Wulff
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      Paresh Solanki wrote: From your autosig, you sound as if you've been talking to a friend of mine. Here's his latest sig: :laugh: ____________________ David Wulff Met a girl, thought she was grand fell in love, found out first hand went well for a week or two then I found out she eats poo - She Hates Me by Puddle of Mudd (modified)

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      • D David Wulff

        I know it is really too early to give reliable results, but I have just logged into both of the test Hotmail accounts I created over the weekend, and the spam totals are starting to support my theory that Microsft aren't selling the addresses, but rather spamers are using brute force methods to generate lists of valid e-mail addresses... 5 char account - 4 sex relates spam messages, each from the same sender, and each with very obviously brute force generated addresses in the "To" field alongside mine. 40 char account - 0 messages. Just a reminder to those who missed my earlier post, the account names are randomly choosen alpha/+numeric strings (neither of which resembled anything like a word either spelling-wise or phonetically. Neither address has been posted anywhere. Only another 28 days to go before the final result. ____________________ David Wulff Met a girl, thought she was grand fell in love, found out first hand went well for a week or two then I found out she eats poo - She Hates Me by Puddle of Mudd (modified)

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        Tom Archer
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        Good idea, David. I have a 5 char name on mail.com (tmacg) that's getting spam and always wondered why. Interesting results thus far. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.

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          Good idea, David. I have a 5 char name on mail.com (tmacg) that's getting spam and always wondered why. Interesting results thus far. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.

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          benjymous
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          You'd think that the owners of such web mail services would be able to detect brute spam attempts (from all the bounce messages for addresses that don't exist), so surely they'd be able to block the senders quite quickly. Or is that assuming that they actually care about blocking spam? -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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          • D David Wulff

            I know it is really too early to give reliable results, but I have just logged into both of the test Hotmail accounts I created over the weekend, and the spam totals are starting to support my theory that Microsft aren't selling the addresses, but rather spamers are using brute force methods to generate lists of valid e-mail addresses... 5 char account - 4 sex relates spam messages, each from the same sender, and each with very obviously brute force generated addresses in the "To" field alongside mine. 40 char account - 0 messages. Just a reminder to those who missed my earlier post, the account names are randomly choosen alpha/+numeric strings (neither of which resembled anything like a word either spelling-wise or phonetically. Neither address has been posted anywhere. Only another 28 days to go before the final result. ____________________ David Wulff Met a girl, thought she was grand fell in love, found out first hand went well for a week or two then I found out she eats poo - She Hates Me by Puddle of Mudd (modified)

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            Navin
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            David Wulff wrote: I know it is really too early to give reliable results, but I have just logged into both of the test Hotmail accounts I created over the weekend, and the spam totals are starting to support my theory that Microsft aren't selling the addresses, but rather spamers are using brute force methods to generate lists of valid e-mail addresses... That probably explains - at least to some extent - why AOL accounts get a ton of spam too. I get almost no spam, I'm sure part of that is becuase I use a local ISP's e-mail instead of a free Hotmail (or similar) e-mail account. Guess you get what you pay for. :) recursive adj. See RECURSIVE.

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            • D David Wulff

              I know it is really too early to give reliable results, but I have just logged into both of the test Hotmail accounts I created over the weekend, and the spam totals are starting to support my theory that Microsft aren't selling the addresses, but rather spamers are using brute force methods to generate lists of valid e-mail addresses... 5 char account - 4 sex relates spam messages, each from the same sender, and each with very obviously brute force generated addresses in the "To" field alongside mine. 40 char account - 0 messages. Just a reminder to those who missed my earlier post, the account names are randomly choosen alpha/+numeric strings (neither of which resembled anything like a word either spelling-wise or phonetically. Neither address has been posted anywhere. Only another 28 days to go before the final result. ____________________ David Wulff Met a girl, thought she was grand fell in love, found out first hand went well for a week or two then I found out she eats poo - She Hates Me by Puddle of Mudd (modified)

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              Dan Pomerchik
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              David Wulff wrote: 40 char account They allow 40 char username!? :-) - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"

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                Hello Dave My uranus20022002 account [14 chars] - I just checked it. 0 junk mail 1 normal mail [the same one I had reported a few days ago] Thus Microsoft is NOT GUILTY Nish_


                One little CD gone, Then two CDs gone, Then 5 more gone, For a total 7 gones, If I was a CD R, I'd wanna cry, Cause I'd be just a goner, For a nasty CD burner. [funny how frustration wakes up the poet in me]_

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                Dan Pomerchik
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                Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Thus Microsoft is NOT GUILTY Yeh, they're guilty in other things, but they surely do not bring up the spam to your inbox :-) Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: [funny how frustration wakes up the poet in me] :-) Yes, I know it's quite "old" but I felt the need :-) - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"

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                • D Dan Pomerchik

                  David Wulff wrote: 40 char account They allow 40 char username!? :-) - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"

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                  David Wulff
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                  Yes, obviously. I don't know what the limit is though. ____________________ David Wulff Met a girl, thought she was grand fell in love, found out first hand went well for a week or two then I found out she eats poo - She Hates Me by Puddle of Mudd (modified)

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                  • D David Wulff

                    Yes, obviously. I don't know what the limit is though. ____________________ David Wulff Met a girl, thought she was grand fell in love, found out first hand went well for a week or two then I found out she eats poo - She Hates Me by Puddle of Mudd (modified)

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                    Dan Pomerchik
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                    Wow 40 chars. There's no way I'm gonna remember 40 chars for my email :-) :-) - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"

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                    • D David Wulff

                      I know it is really too early to give reliable results, but I have just logged into both of the test Hotmail accounts I created over the weekend, and the spam totals are starting to support my theory that Microsft aren't selling the addresses, but rather spamers are using brute force methods to generate lists of valid e-mail addresses... 5 char account - 4 sex relates spam messages, each from the same sender, and each with very obviously brute force generated addresses in the "To" field alongside mine. 40 char account - 0 messages. Just a reminder to those who missed my earlier post, the account names are randomly choosen alpha/+numeric strings (neither of which resembled anything like a word either spelling-wise or phonetically. Neither address has been posted anywhere. Only another 28 days to go before the final result. ____________________ David Wulff Met a girl, thought she was grand fell in love, found out first hand went well for a week or two then I found out she eats poo - She Hates Me by Puddle of Mudd (modified)

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                      Todd Smith
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                      Maybe Hotmail doesn't flag the account as active until you send/receive email from it? Todd Smith CPUA 0x007 ... shaken not stirred

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                      • D Dan Pomerchik

                        Wow 40 chars. There's no way I'm gonna remember 40 chars for my email :-) :-) - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"

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                        Daniel Turini
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                        If you had an 40 chars e-mail address maybe you wouldn't even need a password :) Crivo Automated Credit Assessment

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