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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Further (and only slightly related), what's the big deal with connecting cel phones to the internet? I have a cel phone, but I'll be damned if I see the connection (no pun intended). A phone is a phone, and that's all it'll ever be. How freakin useful is a little LCD screen that can only display a few dozen pixels at a freakin time? And what about text messaging on phones? I already have a hard time pushing just the buttons I want on a regular cel phone - I can't imagine trying to send TEXT from a cel, because it's a pain in the ass just to load up your quick-dial list. For the most part, I'm with you on this one. A few weeks back, I got stuck in another city and was not going to be able to get into work the next day. I was able - through WML, Yahoo and my cell phone - to send email to my boss and my client letting them know the situation. (Thinking about it now, I probably could have just called a left a voicemail...) Anyways, despite the phone interface helping to let them know, it took me about 15 minutes to type and send: "its late and were stuck in windsor. be in tomorrow aft. from jamies phone". I'm all for them making the interface *a little* more useful (read: *a lot* less shitty). John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Microsoft is announcing WiFi this week. For those of you not keeping up, it's basically a WinModem for wireless. In other words, it's a wireless network adapter that relies on software to handle the majority of the workload. What this works out to is a Windows-only wireless nework adapter. Can't really speak about Winmodems, but too many people have jumped on me in the past week for my opinion about Microsoft's strategies. And this doesn't make me want to change my mind. J "I am wise enough to therefore not spout my ill informed opinion as if it were remotely related to fact." - Christian Graus
Just as a quick test, typing the message you gave took me 50 seconds. Add to that another 5 to select a recipient from the phonebook, and I've sent a message in less than a minute. -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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Just as a quick test, typing the message you gave took me 50 seconds. Add to that another 5 to select a recipient from the phonebook, and I've sent a message in less than a minute. -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
Were you using the text messaging? I was using the web-browser connecting to Yahoo on a Nokia with about a 4-line display. It has to "send" stuff between screens and that took a few seconds per. And we can't rule out the possibility that I'm a complete idiot... J "I am wise enough to therefore not spout my ill informed opinion as if it were remotely related to fact." - Christian Graus
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So let me get this straight... you don't like WinModems? ;P ____________________ David Wulff Met a girl, thought she was grand fell in love, found out first hand went well for a week or two then I found out she eats poo - She Hates Me by Puddle of Mudd (modified)
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Microsoft is announcing WiFi this week. For those of you not keeping up, it's basically a WinModem for wireless. In other words, it's a wireless network adapter that relies on software to handle the majority of the workload. What this works out to is a Windows-only wireless nework adapter. I don't know about anybody else, but after seeing the performance hit on CPU usage where winmodems are concerned, why would ANYBODY buy into this? Nobody with any commons sense at all could possibly see a benefit to using this crap. Further (and only slightly related), what's the big deal with connecting cel phones to the internet? I have a cel phone, but I'll be damned if I see the connection (no pun intended). A phone is a phone, and that's all it'll ever be. How freakin useful is a little LCD screen that can only display a few dozen pixels at a freakin time? And what about text messaging on phones? I already have a hard time pushing just the buttons I want on a regular cel phone - I can't imagine trying to send TEXT from a cel, because it's a pain in the ass just to load up your quick-dial list. I just don't get it. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: what's the big deal with connecting cel phones to the internet? The only cool thing I see here is those phones that double up as infrared modems. Ericsson has this model which I'd love to get my hands on. Imagine taking your laptop anywhere and being able to get online at a reasonable speed, without wires. Sweet! :) Regards, Alvaro Intellectuals solve problems; geniuses prevent them. - Albert Einstein
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Microsoft is announcing WiFi this week. For those of you not keeping up, it's basically a WinModem for wireless. In other words, it's a wireless network adapter that relies on software to handle the majority of the workload. What this works out to is a Windows-only wireless nework adapter. I don't know about anybody else, but after seeing the performance hit on CPU usage where winmodems are concerned, why would ANYBODY buy into this? Nobody with any commons sense at all could possibly see a benefit to using this crap. Further (and only slightly related), what's the big deal with connecting cel phones to the internet? I have a cel phone, but I'll be damned if I see the connection (no pun intended). A phone is a phone, and that's all it'll ever be. How freakin useful is a little LCD screen that can only display a few dozen pixels at a freakin time? And what about text messaging on phones? I already have a hard time pushing just the buttons I want on a regular cel phone - I can't imagine trying to send TEXT from a cel, because it's a pain in the ass just to load up your quick-dial list. I just don't get it. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I don't know about anybody else, but after seeing the performance hit on CPU usage where winmodems are concerned, why would ANYBODY buy into this? Nobody with any commons sense at all could possibly see a benefit to using this crap. Your average user can often be relied upon to exhibit a complete lack of common sense (common sense is NOT common, it seems). Who were the vast majority of owners of WinModems? Average users, that did not know any better. With users out there, I bet that these new Wireless WinModems will go faster than a bag of Toll House at a Bulimic Support Group... X| (Bad joke, I know...) Peace! -=- James.
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I agree that with you since I was dumb,dumb,dumb,dumb,dumb ... n * (logdumbn) enough to buy a long time ago a fucking ,fucking,fucking ,fucking,fucking ,fucking,fucking ,fucking,fucking ,fucking,fucking ,fucking,fucking ,fucking,fucking ,fucking,fucking ,fucking,fucking ,fucking,fucking ,fucking,fucking ,fucking,fucking ,fucking,fucking ,fucking crap like that ... but Tim, you must be more forgiving ... Cheers, Joao Vaz Unhappy TCL programmer
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Were you using the text messaging? I was using the web-browser connecting to Yahoo on a Nokia with about a 4-line display. It has to "send" stuff between screens and that took a few seconds per. And we can't rule out the possibility that I'm a complete idiot... J "I am wise enough to therefore not spout my ill informed opinion as if it were remotely related to fact." - Christian Graus
Yeah, that's using text messaging. I'll admit trying to use a web based email client over a mobile is an utter pain, but any decent mobile provider (at least in the UK, anyway) will give you the option of SMS to email. With the provider I use, you just put the email address to send to at the beginning of the message, and send the sms to a particular number (and my Nokia can save email addresses in the address book, meaning I can just select a name and pick "send email" from the menu to have this filled in for me.) The only drawback is that I get charged 10p for every email I send or recieve, but I've only ever used it in emergencies (since most people that I could email can be contacted through sms anyway) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: what's the big deal with connecting cel phones to the internet? The only cool thing I see here is those phones that double up as infrared modems. Ericsson has this model which I'd love to get my hands on. Imagine taking your laptop anywhere and being able to get online at a reasonable speed, without wires. Sweet! :) Regards, Alvaro Intellectuals solve problems; geniuses prevent them. - Albert Einstein
Before I got my car I used to sit on the train to work with my psion and my mobile and catch up on news and emails. As I got free calls to "geographic" phone numbers, and my old ISP still had dial up numbers for specific towns, it meant I could get quite a few hours of surfing in every month without running up my mobile bill :) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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Microsoft is announcing WiFi this week. For those of you not keeping up, it's basically a WinModem for wireless. In other words, it's a wireless network adapter that relies on software to handle the majority of the workload. What this works out to is a Windows-only wireless nework adapter. I don't know about anybody else, but after seeing the performance hit on CPU usage where winmodems are concerned, why would ANYBODY buy into this? Nobody with any commons sense at all could possibly see a benefit to using this crap. Further (and only slightly related), what's the big deal with connecting cel phones to the internet? I have a cel phone, but I'll be damned if I see the connection (no pun intended). A phone is a phone, and that's all it'll ever be. How freakin useful is a little LCD screen that can only display a few dozen pixels at a freakin time? And what about text messaging on phones? I already have a hard time pushing just the buttons I want on a regular cel phone - I can't imagine trying to send TEXT from a cel, because it's a pain in the ass just to load up your quick-dial list. I just don't get it. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: why would ANYBODY buy into this? IMHO, anybody with common sense will never buy such a crap , shame so time ago I bought one similiar to this, of course I was a totally dumb bone head ..., certain days we just can't leave the bed X| John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: what's the big deal with connecting cel phones to the internet None, nada, nothing, zip, ... , why spending too much money on such small devices to surf the web ... bah, nothing beats the computer , waiting for UMTS and the operators great and overpriced tarifs to surf the web ... Cheers, Joao Vaz Unhappy TCL programmer
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Microsoft is announcing WiFi this week. For those of you not keeping up, it's basically a WinModem for wireless. In other words, it's a wireless network adapter that relies on software to handle the majority of the workload. What this works out to is a Windows-only wireless nework adapter. I don't know about anybody else, but after seeing the performance hit on CPU usage where winmodems are concerned, why would ANYBODY buy into this? Nobody with any commons sense at all could possibly see a benefit to using this crap. Further (and only slightly related), what's the big deal with connecting cel phones to the internet? I have a cel phone, but I'll be damned if I see the connection (no pun intended). A phone is a phone, and that's all it'll ever be. How freakin useful is a little LCD screen that can only display a few dozen pixels at a freakin time? And what about text messaging on phones? I already have a hard time pushing just the buttons I want on a regular cel phone - I can't imagine trying to send TEXT from a cel, because it's a pain in the ass just to load up your quick-dial list. I just don't get it. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
2 Weeks ago I got a cell phone/Palm PDA. Cost 100 bucks but it was well worth it. Kinda big for a phone, but to be able to use Graffiti, or virtual Keyboard interface is nice. Also it has a full text web browser, not just WML browser. I keep it more for portable internet, with it being a cell phone as an added bonus. This is the route the internet enabled cell phones should go. -Ric
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Microsoft is announcing WiFi this week. For those of you not keeping up, it's basically a WinModem for wireless. In other words, it's a wireless network adapter that relies on software to handle the majority of the workload. What this works out to is a Windows-only wireless nework adapter. I don't know about anybody else, but after seeing the performance hit on CPU usage where winmodems are concerned, why would ANYBODY buy into this? Nobody with any commons sense at all could possibly see a benefit to using this crap. Further (and only slightly related), what's the big deal with connecting cel phones to the internet? I have a cel phone, but I'll be damned if I see the connection (no pun intended). A phone is a phone, and that's all it'll ever be. How freakin useful is a little LCD screen that can only display a few dozen pixels at a freakin time? And what about text messaging on phones? I already have a hard time pushing just the buttons I want on a regular cel phone - I can't imagine trying to send TEXT from a cel, because it's a pain in the ass just to load up your quick-dial list. I just don't get it. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
I'd actually dig to have a PDA/cellphone combo to do that sought of stuff. But, use a cell phone to post msgs on The Lounge, no thanks. There are a couple of PDA/cell phones on the market here (South Africa), but they are WAY too expensive! What's the market penetration like in your world? [In hind (doh!) sight, using that word in a post to John, probably isn't the wisest idea. :suss: ] Cheers, Simon "I get paid for my brain and my thinking in several obscure worlds", Olli, The Lounge
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Microsoft is announcing WiFi this week. For those of you not keeping up, it's basically a WinModem for wireless. In other words, it's a wireless network adapter that relies on software to handle the majority of the workload. What this works out to is a Windows-only wireless nework adapter. I don't know about anybody else, but after seeing the performance hit on CPU usage where winmodems are concerned, why would ANYBODY buy into this? Nobody with any commons sense at all could possibly see a benefit to using this crap. Further (and only slightly related), what's the big deal with connecting cel phones to the internet? I have a cel phone, but I'll be damned if I see the connection (no pun intended). A phone is a phone, and that's all it'll ever be. How freakin useful is a little LCD screen that can only display a few dozen pixels at a freakin time? And what about text messaging on phones? I already have a hard time pushing just the buttons I want on a regular cel phone - I can't imagine trying to send TEXT from a cel, because it's a pain in the ass just to load up your quick-dial list. I just don't get it. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John you need a new phone. I know I am older than you and can't see as well ( bifocals ) but i send and recieve E-mail all the time on my phone and its a good thing to have. Doesn't eat into my daytime min. any and I can keep the messages around for reference till they are no longer needed. Text messaging I agree with , why not just call, but the E-Mail I really like. Once you get used to entering the text or if your phone has predictive text input its really pretty easy. Richard PS: I won't mention what kind of phone is good or bad cause its getting to the point where people get insulted if you talk about their cell phone in a derogatory manner :) If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port, and the bus is interrupted at a very last resort, and the access of the memory makes your floppy disk abort, then the socket packet pocket has an error to report. If your cursor finds a menu item followed by a dash, and the double-clicking icon puts your window in the trash, and your data is corrupted 'cause the index doesn't hash, then your situation's hopeless and your system's gonna crash!!!
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I'd actually dig to have a PDA/cellphone combo to do that sought of stuff. But, use a cell phone to post msgs on The Lounge, no thanks. There are a couple of PDA/cell phones on the market here (South Africa), but they are WAY too expensive! What's the market penetration like in your world? [In hind (doh!) sight, using that word in a post to John, probably isn't the wisest idea. :suss: ] Cheers, Simon "I get paid for my brain and my thinking in several obscure worlds", Olli, The Lounge
Well and that leads to a question to Chris. Do you see any chance of making CP versatile on small screens ? Exspecially Pocket PCs. I am a Cp addict and would like to connect my IPaq via Bluetooth and Mobile via GRPS to CP. Nice acronym collection, isn't it ? I am a signature virus! Help me spread and copy me to your sig! Ooops I am infected
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Microsoft is announcing WiFi this week. For those of you not keeping up, it's basically a WinModem for wireless. In other words, it's a wireless network adapter that relies on software to handle the majority of the workload. What this works out to is a Windows-only wireless nework adapter. I don't know about anybody else, but after seeing the performance hit on CPU usage where winmodems are concerned, why would ANYBODY buy into this? Nobody with any commons sense at all could possibly see a benefit to using this crap. Further (and only slightly related), what's the big deal with connecting cel phones to the internet? I have a cel phone, but I'll be damned if I see the connection (no pun intended). A phone is a phone, and that's all it'll ever be. How freakin useful is a little LCD screen that can only display a few dozen pixels at a freakin time? And what about text messaging on phones? I already have a hard time pushing just the buttons I want on a regular cel phone - I can't imagine trying to send TEXT from a cel, because it's a pain in the ass just to load up your quick-dial list. I just don't get it. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: what's the big deal with connecting cel phones to the internet? downloading new ring tones I put the Rocky theme song on mine. I like it so much that I'm tempted to not answer the phone so that I can listen to the rest of the song. Cathy Life's uncertain, have dessert first!
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Microsoft is announcing WiFi this week. For those of you not keeping up, it's basically a WinModem for wireless. In other words, it's a wireless network adapter that relies on software to handle the majority of the workload. What this works out to is a Windows-only wireless nework adapter. I don't know about anybody else, but after seeing the performance hit on CPU usage where winmodems are concerned, why would ANYBODY buy into this? Nobody with any commons sense at all could possibly see a benefit to using this crap. Further (and only slightly related), what's the big deal with connecting cel phones to the internet? I have a cel phone, but I'll be damned if I see the connection (no pun intended). A phone is a phone, and that's all it'll ever be. How freakin useful is a little LCD screen that can only display a few dozen pixels at a freakin time? And what about text messaging on phones? I already have a hard time pushing just the buttons I want on a regular cel phone - I can't imagine trying to send TEXT from a cel, because it's a pain in the ass just to load up your quick-dial list. I just don't get it. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: what's the big deal with connecting cel phones to the internet? Others have said it, but the answer is Cel/PDA combos. Take it a couple steps further... - no home phone: i know several people who have decided to not get a home phone, the cel phone is more featured and much more portable - pda/phone combo device as personal computer: personal in the PDA sense, voicemail, email, contacts, expense tracking (receipts &c) (think microsoft wallet here) - ipaqs that are quite powerful: the new pda's are quite powerful, full color, .net capable - mobile computers, mira, tabletpc: next gen devices are on the way, home wireless hubs (wifi will probably be fine for the internet/email crowd, not for us power users) - convergence of these devices: combine the personal with the connected - wearable comptuers, eyeglasses overlays, earpieces: add in the more far out type of peripherals and underneath all of this is Web Services, not static pages, but exposed functionality. read David Brin's _Earth_ for his idea of this type of future. -John