Silly?!!
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Listen Sonny, back in my day programmers were real men, able to lug around 50 pound boxes of punch cards under each arm and not break a sweat. Not like you sissy latte drinking "software developers" today. ;P
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
Gary Kirkham wrote:
not break a sweat.
You could not afford to. Ever try to feed a sweaty punch card in the reader. X|
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Nader Elshehabi wrote:
Also if anybody has nice memories from the old times -when the OS was loaded each time from a 5.25" disk
OK, if these are old times, what about when you loaded the OS from paper tape (actually using the keys on the front of the computer to load a paper tape containing the loader program, which was then used to load the OS). The times when patching a program meant covering up holes in the paper tape by little bits of paper (come on, fess up - how many people have done this?). The times when you could tell what program the computer was running by the noises they made. The times when a programming competition meant writing a program that did something as well as playing a recognisable tune on the computer After that came 8" floppy disks: 5.25" disks - luxury
Graham My signature is not black, just a very, very dark blue
Graham Shanks wrote:
After that
You skipped a few machines that used compact cassettes (and no I am not talking about the Vic-20's!) such as the Wang 700 series.
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I installed a floppy drive cable upside down and spent 10 minutes figuring out why it kept corrupting the disk. As for programming I tend to not make silly mistakes. Sure I have my share of simple WTF's but those I usually fix without much fanfare. I suppose my biggest and silliest mistake was my first VB6 app that I was contracted to work. It was so bad that I rewrote most of it for free even though the original satisfied the wording on the contract.
A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane
I still remember my first VB application. After spending two monthes programming it, it crashed on the first demo. Lucky for me it was for my brother.;P
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
not break a sweat.
You could not afford to. Ever try to feed a sweaty punch card in the reader. X|
Michael A. Barnhart wrote:
Ever try to feed a sweaty punch card in the reader.
Nope, they had operators for that. Wouldn't even let us in the room...had to pass the card decks through a window.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
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Listen Sonny, back in my day programmers were real men, able to lug around 50 pound boxes of punch cards under each arm and not break a sweat. Not like you sissy latte drinking "software developers" today. ;P
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
I guess you didn't have to go to the gym at that time.;P
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Hello A silly question.. Just for the sake of sharing funny memories. What is the most funny, silly, ridiculous programming mistake you ever made??:-D Also if anybody has nice memories from the old times -when the OS was loaded each time from a 5.25" disk-, please post it. I can't seem to remember any of mine at the moment;P, but I'll sure post anything I remember. Regards:rose:
A variable named
bthat should have been anh. I spent somewhere over 20 hours debugging time on that one :doh:. And before any of you people jump my case about naming conventions: this was back during college when men were men, women were women, and self-respecting source code was stored on punched cards like God intended.
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
not break a sweat.
You could not afford to. Ever try to feed a sweaty punch card in the reader. X|
Just checked your bio... I worked on an IBM 360 as well. I remember when I got my 3270 terminal. :jig:
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
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I asked a programming question in the Lounge once
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I dropped my stack of un-numbered FORTRAN punch cards...took me half a day to put them back in order.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
Ah yes, a 'floor sort' :-D. When I took Data Structures in college, it was in FORTRAN on the university IBM mainframe, using punched cards. We had a guy in the class who was blind. I helped him with a floor sort one time. The funny thing was, he'd originally punched his deck on a punch where the ribbon was dry, so you couldn't read the text. Fortunately, he'd run the deck through a verifier that punched line numbers in columns 73-80 for you, and those were readable. The guy himself had learned to read Hollerith directly off the card. He said it was like Braille, just a heck of a lot slower since each character was spread out over so much space.
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Ah yes, a 'floor sort' :-D. When I took Data Structures in college, it was in FORTRAN on the university IBM mainframe, using punched cards. We had a guy in the class who was blind. I helped him with a floor sort one time. The funny thing was, he'd originally punched his deck on a punch where the ribbon was dry, so you couldn't read the text. Fortunately, he'd run the deck through a verifier that punched line numbers in columns 73-80 for you, and those were readable. The guy himself had learned to read Hollerith directly off the card. He said it was like Braille, just a heck of a lot slower since each character was spread out over so much space.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
The guy himself had learned to read Hollerith directly off the card.
:omg: It just shows that humans are amazingly adaptable. On a related note, have you ever noticed that there is braille on the keys at a drive-up ATM.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
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if((a != b) & (a == c) & (c == b)) //a, b, and c are integers { //Do something } else { //throw nasty exception that when caught results in email being sent to multiple individuals and blaming dumb users. Also, //keep trying, as maybe it will be different next time. Yeah, that's the ticket... }
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Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
The guy himself had learned to read Hollerith directly off the card.
:omg: It just shows that humans are amazingly adaptable. On a related note, have you ever noticed that there is braille on the keys at a drive-up ATM.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
Gary Kirkham wrote:
braille on the keys at a drive-up ATM
Actually, that's not as silly as it sounds. A blind person could have someone drive them to an ATM, etc. and they get out of the car to use it. The other thing you'll notice is that the kiosk for drive-up ATM's and indoor wall-mounted ATM's from a given manufacturer will often be identical. The real :wtf: with ATM's is that a lot of them used to run under OS/2...
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Graham Shanks wrote:
After that
You skipped a few machines that used compact cassettes (and no I am not talking about the Vic-20's!) such as the Wang 700 series.
Texas Instruments had the "Silent 700". ASCII keyboard, a thermal printer, RS-232 interface, and a mag tape. The tape was really slow. I remember one project where we had device firmware on the tape, then the patches for the device firmware, then the patches for the patches, and so on for five or six levels. This firmware got loaded into a device which we then debugged :shudder:.
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:-D You could tell the tech guy on the phone (it ended up with that before I knew what I did) was having a WTF moment.
Jeremy Falcon
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Nader Elshehabi wrote:
Also if anybody has nice memories from the old times -when the OS was loaded each time from a 5.25" disk
OK, if these are old times, what about when you loaded the OS from paper tape (actually using the keys on the front of the computer to load a paper tape containing the loader program, which was then used to load the OS). The times when patching a program meant covering up holes in the paper tape by little bits of paper (come on, fess up - how many people have done this?). The times when you could tell what program the computer was running by the noises they made. The times when a programming competition meant writing a program that did something as well as playing a recognisable tune on the computer After that came 8" floppy disks: 5.25" disks - luxury
Graham My signature is not black, just a very, very dark blue
We had an old Xerox mainframe in our Engineering School and each of the student operators (there were about a half dozen of us) had our own customized OS (with development tools) on mag tape reels (loaded from tape drive 2)...and a small piece of mag tape that we spliced together to form an endless loop that just fit around the empty reels of tape drive 1 (with a mag tape bootstrap program recorded on it)...we never had to rewind the boot loader because it was always positioned at the start after each boot up (no start of tape / end of tape markers). :-D ah, those were the days when 32K bytes of main memory was way more than we needed... Steve