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  • D dennisd45

    "He ran a gas station down in St. Louis." How terribly equivalent.:rolleyes:

    No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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    Stan Shannon
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    So how about this [^] one? Or does racism only count when its from a republican?

    Thank God for disproportional force.

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      The Plank[^] This is a subscription site so here is the text: "ANNALS OF IMPLAUSIBILITY: According to the Hotline blog, George Allen has a new explanation: What does Macaca really mean? Three Virginia Republicans confirmed to the Hotline that several Allen campaign aides and advisers are telling allies that the word was a made-up, off-the-cuff neologism that these aides occasionally used to refer to tracker S.R. Sidarth well before last Saturday's videotaped encounter. According to two Republicans who heard the word used, "macaca" was a mash-up of "Mohawk," referring to Sidarth's distinctive hair, and "caca," Spanish slang for excrement, or "shit." Said one Republican close to the campaign: "In other words, he was a shit-head, an annoyance." Allen, according to Republicans, heard members of his traveling entourage and Virginia Republicans use the phrase and picked it up. It was the first word that came to his mind when he spied Sidarth at the weekend's event, according to Republicans who have been briefed on Allen's version of the event. [emphasis added So Allen would have us believe that "macaca" is a wacky nickname combining "mohawk" (even though the Webb staffer in question really doesn't have one in the typical sense) and a word (caca) which English-speakers rarely use--and which just happens to be a racial slur in a language Allen speaks? That's some coincidence. Even if you accept that Allen was "only" calling the guy a shithead instead of a monkey, a friend asks: "Is that a defense--or an allegation"? " also: " "Macaca" isn't just some obscure term for "monkey," it's a French slur for dark-skinned people. And, as Ryan explained yesterday, Allen's mother is French-Tunisian, and Allen speaks French. This may not be the sort of proof that would hold up in court, but it's pretty clear that even if Allen was trying to make up a silly name for the foreign-looking cameraman, the association he came up with was a racial slur he knew."

      No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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      another Democrat speaks out, yep[^]

      Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced

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        The Plank[^] This is a subscription site so here is the text: "ANNALS OF IMPLAUSIBILITY: According to the Hotline blog, George Allen has a new explanation: What does Macaca really mean? Three Virginia Republicans confirmed to the Hotline that several Allen campaign aides and advisers are telling allies that the word was a made-up, off-the-cuff neologism that these aides occasionally used to refer to tracker S.R. Sidarth well before last Saturday's videotaped encounter. According to two Republicans who heard the word used, "macaca" was a mash-up of "Mohawk," referring to Sidarth's distinctive hair, and "caca," Spanish slang for excrement, or "shit." Said one Republican close to the campaign: "In other words, he was a shit-head, an annoyance." Allen, according to Republicans, heard members of his traveling entourage and Virginia Republicans use the phrase and picked it up. It was the first word that came to his mind when he spied Sidarth at the weekend's event, according to Republicans who have been briefed on Allen's version of the event. [emphasis added So Allen would have us believe that "macaca" is a wacky nickname combining "mohawk" (even though the Webb staffer in question really doesn't have one in the typical sense) and a word (caca) which English-speakers rarely use--and which just happens to be a racial slur in a language Allen speaks? That's some coincidence. Even if you accept that Allen was "only" calling the guy a shithead instead of a monkey, a friend asks: "Is that a defense--or an allegation"? " also: " "Macaca" isn't just some obscure term for "monkey," it's a French slur for dark-skinned people. And, as Ryan explained yesterday, Allen's mother is French-Tunisian, and Allen speaks French. This may not be the sort of proof that would hold up in court, but it's pretty clear that even if Allen was trying to make up a silly name for the foreign-looking cameraman, the association he came up with was a racial slur he knew."

        No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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        Stan Shannon
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        I'm ready to answer your question[^] now. The answer is: You. I just knew the leftist media couldn't leave this one alone even though it really only proves how little they have.

        Thank God for disproportional force.

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          another Democrat speaks out, yep[^]

          Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced

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          Mike Gaskey wrote:

          another Democrat speaks out

          But that was in a pre-911 world. Everything's different now.


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          • S Stan Shannon

            So how about this [^] one? Or does racism only count when its from a republican?

            Thank God for disproportional force.

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            These guys are amatures. Have a google for Prince Philip. We forgive him though, he is Greek and rather in-bread after all

            Objects in mirror are closer than they appear

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            • S Stan Shannon

              So how about this [^] one? Or does racism only count when its from a republican?

              Thank God for disproportional force.

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              Gee, how you guys have forgotten how just yesterday, it was all - "it was harmless, he didn't know what he was saying". How quickly you forget.

              No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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              • S Stan Shannon

                I'm ready to answer your question[^] now. The answer is: You. I just knew the leftist media couldn't leave this one alone even though it really only proves how little they have.

                Thank God for disproportional force.

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                Still haven't answered my question. How pathetically consistant. "Leftist media" "leftist media", "leftist media".

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                • S Stan Shannon

                  So how about this [^] one? Or does racism only count when its from a republican?

                  Thank God for disproportional force.

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                  dennisd45
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                  It always counts. You were the guys who were trying to excuse it yesterday.

                  No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                  • D dennisd45

                    Still haven't answered my question. How pathetically consistant. "Leftist media" "leftist media", "leftist media".

                    No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                    Stan Shannon
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                    "Leftist media" Thats the answer. Sorry if you don't like it.

                    Thank God for disproportional force.

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                      "Leftist media" Thats the answer. Sorry if you don't like it.

                      Thank God for disproportional force.

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                      Unfortunately for you, yesterday's article had nothing to do with the left. But I'll forgive you, your not capable of any other thought.

                      No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                      • D dennisd45

                        It always counts. You were the guys who were trying to excuse it yesterday.

                        No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                        Stan Shannon
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                        And we still are... [^] Thats because it is excusable. The man didn't do anything. He is innocent. He is not a racist, he is not a bigot. You leftists are just addicted to the herion of race. Even if Allen were a racist, it would not even rate among the top one thousand threats we face as a society. Racism simply is no longer that big of a deal in our society regardless of the silly extremes you guys go to to keep it alive. This is yet another perfect example of leftist fear mongering - trying to terrify the American people, especially the minorities you are so dependent upon, with racial propaganda. You don't care about terrorism, you don't care about any thing other than achieving your America hating agenda.

                        Thank God for disproportional force.

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                          And we still are... [^] Thats because it is excusable. The man didn't do anything. He is innocent. He is not a racist, he is not a bigot. You leftists are just addicted to the herion of race. Even if Allen were a racist, it would not even rate among the top one thousand threats we face as a society. Racism simply is no longer that big of a deal in our society regardless of the silly extremes you guys go to to keep it alive. This is yet another perfect example of leftist fear mongering - trying to terrify the American people, especially the minorities you are so dependent upon, with racial propaganda. You don't care about terrorism, you don't care about any thing other than achieving your America hating agenda.

                          Thank God for disproportional force.

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                          Defending racism. And throwing in the 'Vast Left Wing Conspiracy' for good measure. Gotta love it.

                          No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                            Unfortunately for you, yesterday's article had nothing to do with the left. But I'll forgive you, your not capable of any other thought.

                            No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                            dennisd45 wrote:

                            Unfortunately for you, yesterday's article had nothing to do with the left.

                            I never said it did. I merely said: Good God, will the left never tire of playing the race card? because I knew this was precisely the kind of issue that would be front page leftist news in the US for the next week.

                            dennisd45 wrote:

                            But I'll forgive you, your not capable of any other thought.

                            That is becuase the most serious threat we face is from the left. If we can rid ourselves of it, all the other problems will solve themselves rather quickly.

                            Thank God for disproportional force.

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                              Defending racism. And throwing in the 'Vast Left Wing Conspiracy' for good measure. Gotta love it.

                              No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                              dennisd45 wrote:

                              Defending racism

                              Don't play that game with me asshole. I"m not defending anything. There was no racism to defend. You guys are creating it, as usual, out of whole cloth. And yes, that is a major part of the 'Vast Left Wing Conspiracy'.

                              Thank God for disproportional force.

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                                dennisd45 wrote:

                                Unfortunately for you, yesterday's article had nothing to do with the left.

                                I never said it did. I merely said: Good God, will the left never tire of playing the race card? because I knew this was precisely the kind of issue that would be front page leftist news in the US for the next week.

                                dennisd45 wrote:

                                But I'll forgive you, your not capable of any other thought.

                                That is becuase the most serious threat we face is from the left. If we can rid ourselves of it, all the other problems will solve themselves rather quickly.

                                Thank God for disproportional force.

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                                Oh, right, of course, you were talking about what was going to happen in the future:rolleyes: Good, you haven't forgotten about the 'Vast Left Wing Conspiracy' to "sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids". Maybe that has already been done. The water has already been fluoridated. :laugh::laugh:

                                No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                                  dennisd45 wrote:

                                  Defending racism

                                  Don't play that game with me asshole. I"m not defending anything. There was no racism to defend. You guys are creating it, as usual, out of whole cloth. And yes, that is a major part of the 'Vast Left Wing Conspiracy'.

                                  Thank God for disproportional force.

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                                  That's even better, deny that it's even racism. Just a little while ago you were agreeing it was racism. [^] And, of course, lets keep the conspiracy alive.:laugh:

                                  No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                                    That's even better, deny that it's even racism. Just a little while ago you were agreeing it was racism. [^] And, of course, lets keep the conspiracy alive.:laugh:

                                    No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                                    dennisd45 wrote:

                                    Just a little while ago you were agreeing it was racism.

                                    I was being rhetorical. Just because you say its racism doesn't mean it is. What Bidin said was, in fact, far more racist than what Allen said even if he had known what the word meant. Allen directed his comment towards an individual as an individual, Biden directed his comments towards an entire group. I have no idea if Allen is a racist or not. But I absolutley know what you are and I am sick and tired of seeing good men kowtowing to the phoney morality of the left for every poorly choosen term. Take your little racial mantra and stick it where the sun don't shine.

                                    Thank God for disproportional force.

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                                      Oh, right, of course, you were talking about what was going to happen in the future:rolleyes: Good, you haven't forgotten about the 'Vast Left Wing Conspiracy' to "sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids". Maybe that has already been done. The water has already been fluoridated. :laugh::laugh:

                                      No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                                      Stan Shannon
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                                      dennisd45 wrote:

                                      Oh, right, of course, you were talking about what was going to happen in the future

                                      Predicting the future isn't difficult when dealing with leftists. You are very predictable.

                                      dennisd45 wrote:

                                      Good, you haven't forgotten about the 'Vast Left Wing Conspiracy' to "sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids". Maybe that has already been done. The water has already been fluoridated.

                                      I have well water, so that one doesn't concern me.

                                      Thank God for disproportional force.

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                                        dennisd45 wrote:

                                        Just a little while ago you were agreeing it was racism.

                                        I was being rhetorical. Just because you say its racism doesn't mean it is. What Bidin said was, in fact, far more racist than what Allen said even if he had known what the word meant. Allen directed his comment towards an individual as an individual, Biden directed his comments towards an entire group. I have no idea if Allen is a racist or not. But I absolutley know what you are and I am sick and tired of seeing good men kowtowing to the phoney morality of the left for every poorly choosen term. Take your little racial mantra and stick it where the sun don't shine.

                                        Thank God for disproportional force.

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                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        Just because you say its racism doesn't mean it is

                                        Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        What Bidin said was, in fact, far more racist than what Allen said even if he had known what the word meant. Allen directed his comment towards an individual as an individual, Biden directed his comments towards an entire group.

                                        It ain't racism, well, it is, but it's not as bad as some other racism. Is that what you mean, Stan? From Dr. Stragelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- General Jack D. Ripper: Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream. Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Lord, Jack. General Jack D. Ripper: You know when fluoridation first began? Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: I... no, no. I don't, Jack. General Jack D. Ripper: Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works

                                        No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                                          dennisd45 wrote:

                                          Oh, right, of course, you were talking about what was going to happen in the future

                                          Predicting the future isn't difficult when dealing with leftists. You are very predictable.

                                          dennisd45 wrote:

                                          Good, you haven't forgotten about the 'Vast Left Wing Conspiracy' to "sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids". Maybe that has already been done. The water has already been fluoridated.

                                          I have well water, so that one doesn't concern me.

                                          Thank God for disproportional force.

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                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          Predicting the future isn't difficult when dealing with leftists. You are very predictable.

                                          Yeah, when you put everybody in your little groups, you don't really have to think any more, do ya? I've kinda noticed that about you.:) -- modified at 23:43 Wednesday 16th August, 2006 I hope you were drinking well water as a kid as well:)

                                          No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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