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  • M Matthias Matook

    ;-) We all know that this topic has some challenging aspects. And some of us burned there fingers already badly :P

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    Monty2
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    Matthias Matook wrote:

    fingers

    is that all :~


    The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.

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    • M Matthias Matook

      The purpose of this message is to ask you to complete a questionnaire on the subject of incidents of lying on software projects. We know you are busy; all of us software folks are! I would like to invite you share some of your expieriences (no personal nor company information required! ). In case you are interested here the online link and detailed explaination. Please note - this is no spam. Only seriose comments please. http://www.smartconsultant.de/survey.html Thank you ! PS.: For those who would like to recieve a copy of the results without providing an email address which is related to the survey, can just use the contact form on the web page and request the results there. We understand that some people do not wish to be linked to the survey. Just say you request a copy of the result of the survey. -- modified at 8:29 Friday 18th August, 2006

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      Marc Clifton
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      That took about 1 minute. Here's my final comment: I've never encountered lying in a software project. I've encountered incompetence, bad estimation (but honestly done), mismanagement, poorly communicated information, etc., but I've never encountered a project in which there is blatant hype or any conscious decision on someone's part to be misleading. Sure there's politics, but I've seen lies as a result of politics, only lots of bickering and stupid decisions. I'm be curious about other people's experiences. Marc

      Thyme In The Country

      Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
      There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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      • M Matthias Matook

        The purpose of this message is to ask you to complete a questionnaire on the subject of incidents of lying on software projects. We know you are busy; all of us software folks are! I would like to invite you share some of your expieriences (no personal nor company information required! ). In case you are interested here the online link and detailed explaination. Please note - this is no spam. Only seriose comments please. http://www.smartconsultant.de/survey.html Thank you ! PS.: For those who would like to recieve a copy of the results without providing an email address which is related to the survey, can just use the contact form on the web page and request the results there. We understand that some people do not wish to be linked to the survey. Just say you request a copy of the result of the survey. -- modified at 8:29 Friday 18th August, 2006

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        Christian Graus
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        Why are you sure, if we've lied at work, we'd tell the truth in your survey ? :P

        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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        • M Monty2

          Matthias Matook wrote:

          fingers

          is that all :~


          The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.

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          Matthias Matook
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          Some have lost much more ... Therefore are the comment fields in the survey ...

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          • C Christian Graus

            Why are you sure, if we've lied at work, we'd tell the truth in your survey ? :P

            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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            Matthias Matook
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            This is a very good question (and was one of the very first one which came into my mind )! We are not sure ... but statistically the majority of people who feel strongly about this topic will tell there view (which is maybe not the real truth...). The rest simply does not care enaugh .

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            • M Matthias Matook

              The purpose of this message is to ask you to complete a questionnaire on the subject of incidents of lying on software projects. We know you are busy; all of us software folks are! I would like to invite you share some of your expieriences (no personal nor company information required! ). In case you are interested here the online link and detailed explaination. Please note - this is no spam. Only seriose comments please. http://www.smartconsultant.de/survey.html Thank you ! PS.: For those who would like to recieve a copy of the results without providing an email address which is related to the survey, can just use the contact form on the web page and request the results there. We understand that some people do not wish to be linked to the survey. Just say you request a copy of the result of the survey. -- modified at 8:29 Friday 18th August, 2006

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              Rob Graham
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              Your survey assumes that the answer is yes. In most cases I think you will find the answere is no. People are by and large honest. They can be foolish, mistaken, overly optimistic and still be honest.

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              • M Marc Clifton

                That took about 1 minute. Here's my final comment: I've never encountered lying in a software project. I've encountered incompetence, bad estimation (but honestly done), mismanagement, poorly communicated information, etc., but I've never encountered a project in which there is blatant hype or any conscious decision on someone's part to be misleading. Sure there's politics, but I've seen lies as a result of politics, only lots of bickering and stupid decisions. I'm be curious about other people's experiences. Marc

                Thyme In The Country

                Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
                People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                Ryan Binns
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                Marc Clifton wrote:

                I've never encountered lying in a software project. I've encountered incompetence, bad estimation (but honestly done), mismanagement, poorly communicated information, etc., but I've never encountered a project in which there is blatant hype or any conscious decision on someone's part to be misleading. Sure there's politics, but I've seen lies as a result of politics, only lots of bickering and stupid decisions.

                Should that be "Sure there's politics, but I've never seen lies as a result of politics, only lots of bickering and stupid decisions." ? I have to agree Marc. I've never come across people lying at work. Plenty of politics, as you say, but not lying.

                Ryan

                "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                • R Rob Graham

                  Your survey assumes that the answer is yes. In most cases I think you will find the answere is no. People are by and large honest. They can be foolish, mistaken, overly optimistic and still be honest.

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                  Matthias Matook
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                  Rob, The survey is based on a pre-test performed earlier on. It is as well based on former studies and publications in this area. However, you are absolutely right that many people are honest to there bones. Some of them have even been punished for this … Many factors have an influence, for example: Size of the company or team Multi national and cultural distribution The hierarchical position of the survey participant (means how much visibility he has) Whether responsibility over others exists (like a team or project lead who could risk loosing some of his bodies if he does not lie …) and many more ... This is a very complex and controversial topic and was expected to be one.

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                  • M Matthias Matook

                    The purpose of this message is to ask you to complete a questionnaire on the subject of incidents of lying on software projects. We know you are busy; all of us software folks are! I would like to invite you share some of your expieriences (no personal nor company information required! ). In case you are interested here the online link and detailed explaination. Please note - this is no spam. Only seriose comments please. http://www.smartconsultant.de/survey.html Thank you ! PS.: For those who would like to recieve a copy of the results without providing an email address which is related to the survey, can just use the contact form on the web page and request the results there. We understand that some people do not wish to be linked to the survey. Just say you request a copy of the result of the survey. -- modified at 8:29 Friday 18th August, 2006

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                    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                    I answered no to a question but the follow-ups all assumed yes so when I declined to answer I got an error. I clicked X.

                    A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                      I answered no to a question but the follow-ups all assumed yes so when I declined to answer I got an error. I clicked X.

                      A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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                      Matthias Matook
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                      The follow-ups will not be calculated in the statistic if you have selected NO. The survey will not blend out questions for you even if you select NO. Instead just skip those (as many many other people did already). Nothing is assumed up-front. What we do is to care about your view. And I can tell you this much : This topic generated a very wide range of opinions. However your input is valid - I understand it could be confusing. If you care just give it another try. Thanks

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                      • M Matthias Matook

                        The follow-ups will not be calculated in the statistic if you have selected NO. The survey will not blend out questions for you even if you select NO. Instead just skip those (as many many other people did already). Nothing is assumed up-front. What we do is to care about your view. And I can tell you this much : This topic generated a very wide range of opinions. However your input is valid - I understand it could be confusing. If you care just give it another try. Thanks

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                        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                        But I am not retaking a survey that is poorly designed to give possibly invalid results. Use the feedback to design a better survey in the future.

                        A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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